Sebastianx Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Why you may ask? In her Lore,Nova is said to be designed by the Council,thus she never existed in the Orokin period. And Valkyr was forged in the labs of the Zanuka program,that also means she never existed in the Orokin times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminati07 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Nova was...Designed by the council? Er... Valkyr wasn't forged in a lab. She was captured and broke free during dissection. There very well could be a Valkyr Warframe that existed in the Orokin period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brimir Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Nova was...Designed by the council? Er... Valkyr wasn't forged in a lab. She was captured and broke free during dissection. There very well could be a Valkyr Warframe that existed in the Orokin period. There definitely was a Valkyr Prime. However, there will never be a Valkyr Prime in the game. Why? Because the powers and characteristics of Valkyr was a result of the torture she endured at the hands of Alad V. Both her original Warframe (and thus her Prime) would have different powers and characteristics i.e a different Warframe. As for Nova... dunno, don't care. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General_Krull Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 There definitely was a Valkyr Prime. However, there will never be a Valkyr Prime in the game. Why? Because the powers and characteristics of Valkyr was a result of the torture she endured at the hands of Alad V. Both her original Warframe (and thus her Prime) would have different powers and characteristics i.e a different Warframe. As for Nova... dunno, don't care. lol Valkyr is obviously naked Ember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCOAS Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Yeah, but that Valkyr Warframe would be totally different one because Valkyr Prime was never tortured. And you could say the Nova warframe wasn't in the orokin ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaian-a-coel Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Nova can have a prime. The DC has no existence in lore. Valkyr, however... Her prime would be an entirely different warframe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greene Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Valkyr is obviously naked Ember. Wait what? So Valkyr evolved from ember, and we now have a scanner to scan enemies to know more about them... ...Nintendo is out to get us, guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebastianx Posted December 5, 2013 Author Share Posted December 5, 2013 Nova was...Designed by the council? Er... Valkyr wasn't forged in a lab. She was captured and broke free during dissection. There very well could be a Valkyr Warframe that existed in the Orokin period. "Her very existence is a result of Tenno High Council research" "Forged in the labs of the Zanuka project, the original Valkyr was subject to cruel experiments leaving her scared, angry and frighteningly adept at killing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlayn Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 (edited) Why you may ask? In her Lore,Nova is said to be designed by the Council,thus she never existed in the Orokin period. And Valkyr was forged in the labs of the Zanuka program,that also means she never existed in the Orokin times. Valkyr as a prime would be the complete, and untainted version. Infact DE said she was peaceful before the operation. Meaning she would be an entirely different warframe. edit: maybe even better then trinity. Edited December 5, 2013 by Arlayn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EganMC Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 (edited) It's possible this is a hint to possible augmentations to warframes from existing factions, like Vandal and Wraith. Just a theory, but no other augmentations currently exist to warframes that we can claim as a theory for those that have a clash of lore. Unless they simply start releasing "Mark 2"s of warframes that it wouldn't be lore-friendly to have a Prime of. Edited December 5, 2013 by EganMC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanicEnemy Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 i wish there was a loki prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebastianx Posted December 5, 2013 Author Share Posted December 5, 2013 Unless they simply start releasing "Mark 2"s of warframes that it wouldn't be lore-friendly to have a Prime of. Tennos : Hey Alad,mind torturing this poor little girl also until she becomes better than the old Valkyr? she's boring :< ^That'll be the creation of Valkyr MK.II ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cybernetix Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Design council is a forum thing and nothing to do with the ingame lore. Nova prime can and probably will (in the distant future) happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 (edited) Design council is a forum thing and nothing to do with the ingame lore. Nova prime can and probably will (in the distant future) happen. Noone mentioned Design Council. We're talking about ingame "Tenno High Council" thingy thats written on warframe lores and even lotus sometimes talks about it (elimination Mr. Fluffyflappers could gain us favor with council etc) Tennos : Hey Alad,mind torturing this poor little girl also until she becomes better than the old Valkyr? she's boring :< ^That'll be the creation of Valkyr MK.II ? Why not :O ? Edited December 5, 2013 by Shin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naftal Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Shouldn't Vauban be on the list as well? I think Valkyr Prime is Mag Prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloudPies Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 I thought the reasoning would be: Nova is too OP. Valkyr is too UP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__Kanade__ Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 The older season one frames should get primed first, not the newer ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyFishXD Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Who knows Nova could be inspired by the council of a legendary prime from the orokin times(maybe she sacrificed herself?), so maybe the abilities should be abit different like Valkyr :\? Just maybe... :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freelancer27 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Nova was...Designed by the council? Er... This was heard on Nova's profile, she is considered to "a recent development". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix86 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 If you ever in doubt just think that we are space ninjas with giant hammers, organic gas pistols and we are able to hold a rocket launcher with 540 ammo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Markie Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 This was heard on Nova's profile, she is considered to "a recent development". Can you give me the timemark for that? ANYWAYS We don't know when the Tenno High Council existed, it could be at the end of the Orokin age. No information is mentioned about the existing time period of the Tenno High Council. So basically, it's totally fine for Nova to have a prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminati07 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 "Her very existence is a result of Tenno High Council research" "Forged in the labs of the Zanuka project, the original Valkyr was subject to cruel experiments leaving her scared, angry and frighteningly adept at killing." Hm, guess I didn't read the Nova entry. My mistake. My take on the Valkyr entry is that she was "forged" in the labs of the Zanuka Program. But, not literally forged. Her character was forged. Her likeness was forged by the horrors she went to. It's even more solidified in the second sentence, where it mentions the cruel experiments leaving her scarred and angry. It's all up for interpretation, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebastianx Posted December 5, 2013 Author Share Posted December 5, 2013 Hm, guess I didn't read the Nova entry. My mistake. My take on the Valkyr entry is that she was "forged" in the labs of the Zanuka Program. But, not literally forged. Her character was forged. Her likeness was forged by the horrors she went to. It's even more solidified in the second sentence, where it mentions the cruel experiments leaving her scarred and angry. It's all up for interpretation, though. In that case a Valkyr Prime would be a totally different frame with totally different skills,because the Zanuka program made her who she is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost_Cartographer Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Ripline. Inspiration. Passify. Zen/zealotry. Valkyr prime skills :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminati07 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 In that case a Valkyr Prime would be a totally different frame with totally different skills,because the Zanuka program made her who she is now. Yup, pretty much. I won't disagree there. I've been thinking about the Nova entry a bit more. What we know so far: The Tenno were created in the Void. The Orokin built the Warframes around the Tenno to use them as weapons to destroy the Sentients. Something happened in between, and the Tenno slaughtered the Orokin. My assumption is this: After the slaughter, the Tenno council was formed. That is when Nova was created. The Warframe was built around a female Tenno. For all we know, that could very well be Nova Prime. We'll just have to wait for more lore to be released before we can make any concrete assumptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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