lautalocos Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 im pretty sure you are going to allow people to both post and monetize videos, but it´s a sad fact that now devs have to actually clarify this. this is actually pretty important, with all the S#&$ going down at youtube, so im sure youtubers in the future would like to know this before even consider posting a video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bejuizb Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 (edited) im pretty sure you are going to allow people to both post and monetize videos, but it´s a sad fact that now devs have to actually clarify this. this is actually pretty important, with all the S#&$ going down at youtube, so im sure youtubers in the future would like to know this before even consider posting a video. warframe.com/videopolicy It states it clearly there. It's the very first thing all of us YouTubers checked before uploading. Edited December 11, 2013 by bejuizb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixty5 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Main page of this site has link to the full policy. DE allows monetisation of Warframe videos, and supports all video uploads within guidelines. Blame greedy publishers and Google for the yt thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luminati07 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 They've made their stance clear on multiple occasions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bejuizb Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 In short, you're free to publish and monetize content. If YouTube asks you for proof of fair usage, use the link to the video policy as proof. You should be cleared. Digital Extremes has a blanket protection over all Warframe creators because of this policy and I'm deeply thankful to them for being so generous and awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zachles Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 What's going down on Youtube? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bejuizb Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 What's going down on Youtube? Visit the Tenno on YouTube thread in the Fan Zone section. You'll know then :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lautalocos Posted December 11, 2013 Author Share Posted December 11, 2013 What's going down on Youtube? S#&$storm. thats basically it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zachles Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 (edited) Visit the Tenno on YouTube thread in the Fan Zone section. You'll know then :P I shared my Youtube channel, too. Also, I'm still not sure what's going on. I kind of skimmed through it, and didn't see anything going "down". S#&$storm. thats basically it. See, that's why I don't go to zoos. Monkeys fling their fecal matter everywhere. :c Edited December 11, 2013 by Zachles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letter13 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 For all things Warframe, youtubers are in the clear. DE is very chill when it comes to their game being used in youtube videos. For other big budget games like GTA5... not so much. Scumbag publishers and all that. Read the full story on Kotaku. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverBones Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 This is why I do not monetize my channel. Less headaches, no one to answer to and I can take my OWN DAMN TIME! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValhaHazred Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 People who don't monetize are getting hit too. It's just automated copyright protection programs, they don't care if you aren't making money off it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bejuizb Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Yeah, I recently started monetizing...and it's a trucking chore. It's taken me two weeks and several hours to make 3$...so yeah, I'll not monetize. I'd suggest the same OP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NalkorRN Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Yeah, I recently started monetizing...and it's a trucking chore. It's taken me two weeks and several hours to make 3$...so yeah, I'll not monetize. I'd suggest the same OP Yeah, the only people who can be successful at monetizing YT stuff are people who become insanely popular with legions of fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaliceSoul Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 I don't get why some publishers do this. Its actually "free" advertising for them. Youtubers are essentially "selling" their viewers and whatnot to the respective game companies. If that isn't bad enough, some actually abuse the system of initiating a copyright claim on a video. Like that Day One Garry's Incident video critique by the Cynical Brit for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bejuizb Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 I don't get why some publishers do this. Its actually "free" advertising for them. Youtubers are essentially "selling" their viewers and whatnot to the respective game companies. If that isn't bad enough, some actually abuse the system of initiating a copyright claim on a video. Like that Day One Garry's Incident video critique by the Cynical Brit for example. It's all about the moolah. They don't want anyone making money off of them, so they just clamp down on the small channels hoping that they can take over their channels and then make even more money off of that. It's a sad world we live in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psroij Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 ChaliceSoul, on 10 Dec 2013 - 9:09 PM, said: I don't get why some publishers do this. Its actually "free" advertising for them. Youtubers are essentially "selling" their viewers and whatnot to the respective game companies. If that isn't bad enough, some actually abuse the system of initiating a copyright claim on a video. Like that Day One Garry's Incident video critique by the Cynical Brit for example. It is about controlling the message on the games. It has nothing to do with others making money off it; the ones who monetize are more likely to have large viewer bases, and that is what scares the publishers/developers. They do not want to risk bad word of mouth getting out because they created/published a product not worth the consumers money. Their solution is to censor everyone who might show aspects of the game in such a way that might cost them sales. Look at the games that have been hit and notice they all have at least one thing in common, they are receiving large amounts of negative criticism. Look at the games getting hit: they typically either did not live up to their own height and were receiving negative criticism (GTA V), or they are clearly bug filled messes that should never have been released to the public at all (Garry's Incident) and are receiving negative criticism. And YouTube, being run by Google, does not bother to investigate these concerns at all, they just blanket remove videos or shut down channels on spurious, unfounded claims. Even the monetized videos are technically covered by fair use laws, as the part being monetized is (arguably) the commentary of the person playing, and reviews are legal to be monetized in the first place as copyright does not protect a work from negative criticism that will impact its sales. Also, publishers and developers being so inconsistent in what they will let stand and what they will attempt to suppress actually hurts their claims of damages, which is why they try to scare people with settlement notices and tough talk only when it is negative criticism. Essentially, these companies making claims have to prove that the Let's Play YouTubers, and the streamers, are somehow substituting game sales, but if the only thing that hurts their sales is negative aspects of the game being brought to light then that is a tough hill to climb. While there are no court cases bearing directly on the aspect of streamers and LPers, the DMCA actually requires copyright holders to consider whether it might be fair use before they send in the complaint; it is quite obvious publishers of games, music, etc, clearly do not do this, and do not accept the law stating that fair use cannot be denied. That a company as large as Google, who claims to be on the side of the consumer, does not push back is a joke. Too many companies (and consumers) have forgotten that businesses exist to serve the consumer, consumers do not exist to keep the business alive. Eh, whatever, kind of went off on a rant there. Either way, it has nothing to do with people making money off the videos, and has everything to do with them wanting to suppress negative criticism, this is why even non-monetized people have been slapped with complaints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValhaHazred Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Thank God for Jim. http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/8565-Copyright-War?utm_source=latest&utm_medium=index_carousel&utm_campaign=all That rant at the end. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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