TankHunter678 Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 The Grakata is the only weapon I would consider to build for status chance on, which in a way does make it better then the Soma in terms of enabling a different playstyle that is viable at high content levels. The ability to consistently trigger proc effects like Corrosive's Armor reduction against high level Grineer, Magnetic against Corpus, is immensely powerful and amplifies a teams effectiveness. You move Grakata to secondaries you can kiss proc builds goodbye for it. Also, secondaries get worse crit mods then rifle, which is also a lifeblood on the Grakata to get it to do good damage in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamSalva Posted December 29, 2013 Share Posted December 29, 2013 Yes plz! Make the Rifle with the 4th best DPS a Pistol so i can have Synapse AND Soma at the same time! Crazyness! Really, you should at least know anything about things you try to talk about.... get your Facts rigth.. jsut because Soma is the 2nd best Rifle in the game doesn´t mean everything with less dps has to be a pistol... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nyxem Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 (edited) as we all know that Warframe dictates law that Secondaries must outperform Primaries. Without Split Chamber, neither my Grakata or my Soma outdamage my Aklex. And it's 1000% more ammo-efficient too. With that in mind, my primary fulfills the role of "clearing large groups" while my Aklex actually does the bosskilling, so a status-based weapon is better for me. That, and explosive primaries once I get to them... Grakata is fine as a primary. I think Stug should also have been a primary - that thing's hyooge. Edited December 31, 2013 by Nyxem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mak_Gohae Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Yes just because i want Akgrakata. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk0m Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 (edited) Don't EVEN THINK!!!! About touching the Grakata..... Unless to make a Prime Wraith out of it. Edited January 1, 2014 by sk0m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamSalva Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Don't EVEN THINK!!!! About touching the Grakata..... Unless to make a Prime out of it. It would become a Wrtaith, not a Prime... only Tenno/Orokin Gear gets primed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ServareVitas Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 One thing we are forgetting is that every 'secondary' has to be magically fused to your right thigh, this can't be done with a grakatta because it's simply too big. With a rifle and sword on your back where would it go? They would have to invent and code a new place to carry it just for this weapon. They won't put that much effort in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamSalva Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 One thing we are forgetting is that every 'secondary' has to be magically fused to your right thigh, this can't be done with a grakatta because it's simply too big. With a rifle and sword on your back where would it go? They would have to invent and code a new place to carry it just for this weapon. They won't put that much effort in. Grakata isn´t much bigger than Acrid... or Stuk... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ionus Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Would you carry this as a secondary? If your answer is no, then the argument is settled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp4rtan148 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 "Why can't there be SMG's? I mean sure, we have hand cannons in the form of the Brakk, traditional Deagles in the form of the Lex and Good ol' revolvers in the form of Vasto and Magnus." What the hell do you think the viper and the furis are... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ionus Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 "Why can't there be SMG's? I mean sure, we have hand cannons in the form of the Brakk, traditional Deagles in the form of the Lex and Good ol' revolvers in the form of Vasto and Magnus." What the hell do you think the viper and the furis are... Viper and afuris aren't SMGs. They're machine pistols. Grakata is an SMG, and the Braton series are all SMGs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Talia. Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Funny thing is... Grataka as a Secondary, Brakk still much much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamSalva Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Funny thing is... Grataka as a Secondary, Brakk still much much better. Brakk has double the DPS of every other Weapon in the game.. its miles better than everything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othergrunty Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Latron. One Grakata! No, Latron. Twooo Grakata! Ah Clem. Such a nice fellow. One day i hope to meet him aswell. As for this thread. Grakata is size and design wise an SMG so it doesn't fit into being a secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodArmoredApostle Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 If you ask me it's just an ordinary lower level crit weapon. You know so starting players can get a taste of every type of weapon. But the higher impact and status make it really interesting for a level 0 weapon. If you look at it this way, Soma needs a buff for being level 6. Then obviously you didn't have the right build for the Grakata. It out damages most weapons with a crit build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brahmastra Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Then obviously you didn't have the right build for the Grakata. It out damages most weapons with a crit build. > But the higher impact and status make it really interesting for a level 0 weapon. > If you look at it this way, Soma needs a buff for being level 6. Did you not read what I posted? This means it's good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulzscha Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Moved to the proper section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadmice Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Dat status chance, hell if the grakata was a secondary it would get worse since the pistol crit dmg and effect chance mods are terrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ribboz Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I would love to equipt two guns of my choosing and a melee weapons. Grakata as a secondary would be really fun. That's if it kept the same total ammo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmthebigman Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 NO @(*()$ NO. if this gets to be a pistol its ruined. I got a nice build in my head that would potentially be better than Soma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ensignvidiot Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I would actually keep the gun after I assemble it for mastery if it was a Secondary weapon. Now its about to become another stepping stone to rank 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makya Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 If it kept close to its ammo as a pistol it would make the Soma well.. almost useless(it would be out performed in everything but long range sniping, of which you can pair it with a true sniper like the vectis or a baby sniper like the latron prime). Give it normal pistol ammo cap then it is almost useless itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIDESTRE4M Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I just hope, DE doesn't take the 20% proc-chance away with their "balancing". I'm just happy there is no one screaming for a nerf of grakata. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiiat Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I'm just happy there is no one screaming for a nerf of grakata. probably because Status Effects compensate for it's relatively meh Ammunition Efficiency and okay damage output. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monolake Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Are you lot high? Grakata is very ammo hungry, it would be as useful as Twin Vipers if it was secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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