The 100 Things I Hate About Warframe

[dashashou]

On the forums i've noticed a lot of ideas being repeated over and over  to the point where i just started writing down stuff as it annoys me . 

 

i figured  i would pre-pub this  and we all could add  #  of things in Warframe that really annoy us as players  so agree / disagree - read down the list and add the next # and add /  edit latter  ,

 

disclaimer-  ( this is intended as a list for stuff that DE needs to fix as added by the community  , not just bashing ) 

 

so without ado -  

 

1. the 2 man doors - there always going to be a faster player  in the game - means that he 's going to be bored and the slower player(s) are going to be annoyed by his ringing the door bell over and over 

 

2.  air rng / life support pods - IN survivals it sucks that some times i'm limited  how far i can go due to something i can't control

 

3. charge attacks removed - i like doing them - alot of people did

 

4. quick block  being removed  and being melee mode only  ,  when  all your weapons should work together  

 

5. delay between switching between weapons  - speed aura doesn't fix it 

 

6.  Energy siphon is a needed aura  no other aura even comes close 

 

 7. nekros desecrate spam  being needed in most survivals  and nekros needing to press 3 - 100s to 1000s of times 

 

8 . ammo inequality  of the machine pistes - burn all your ammo in 2 clips , and spent the next 5 mins refilling ammo  before firing again 

 

9. shotgun ammo - just take it out - i shouldn't have to burn a slot for a avg weapon to function normally 

 

10 .overheat -  accelate is better with it's buff/  blind built in - but i  liked using her as a tank  

 

11. degen of argon cells 

 

12. degen of Kurbrow 

 

13  stasis of kubrow and the 3 hour wait switching between them 

 

14 . The pathfinding on Kubrows is horrible 

 

15 arch traps - they makes no sense , have no lore and are way too hard hitting and hard to target 

 

16  T1 rewards  where you get  - keys  for keys  esp. in  single reward missions ( non surivival / def / interception  ) in the void - no one is running void to get more void keys  on those 

 

17. dojo obstacle course  - i hate the pillars , only place that even  there and it's just frustrating and boring 

 

18  phase bosses

 

19. concave scailing bosses - makes it impossible for new players to help when playing with old players

 

20. stances /mods  that only drop off bosses 

 

21 . proced to death-  posion . bleed i'm looking at you - really punishes the lighter frames  

 

22 .  green lazer doors -  tripping over them  - breaks the flow of the game , shows  that it's better to be a rhino and just ignore them - one of the main rhino's are faster than everyone else in the game 

 

23.  delerict keys  - no point to these just mean that every del group needs to be premade and every one hates the map we only go there for vaults 

 

24. vay hek keys 

 

25. weapons that poorly copter 

 

26. falling out side the map happens occ. 

 

27 . excavation limit  of  2 excavators  at a time  it weirdly  wrecks excavation for me 

 

28. getting my weapons knocked from my hands -  " why don't sam and dean  just attach a teather to them "

 

29. grineer - door locks - these always take too long to do , aren't challenging / fun  and  with any lag become impossible ;

they have become   an auto use cipher 

 

30  the shiva - shield doesn't block 

 

31. interceptions being inherently boring  with 4 people you  just stand there and occannly kill mobs 

 

32. shared ammo pool weapons 

 

33. extermas mobs  only dropping oberon parts - alot of work for no reward - i have more than 60 full sets of oberon(s)

atm 

 

34.  No Arch-wing parkour  just a stun/ bang into wall and try again 

 

35. Scaling - apologizes for not putting this as number 1 but after a year and a half of this omni-present issue little hope on this one

 

36.  Arch-wing interception leaving the map cause your went 50 m in to empty space - happens a lot 

 

37. Multu - navs / keys , for Eris - Alad V  boss are all horrible waiting  for just one key

 

38. Multi - Alad V   mind controlling is massively anti player agency

 

39. Mesa ult - is just watching  the game play it's self with a holding click as a  "your not sleeping are u ? " check 

 

40. New maps - being anti parkour - we can't climb most  objects/ walls in the newer tile sets 

edit  1 *

 

41- Ordis - the microsoft paper clip that just won't stop  he never helps 

 

42 - Lotus  reusing lines alot  "  somethings wrong , this is taking longer that i thought "  and ect ...

 

43. auto roll -  this one personally makes some mastery test nigh impossible - personal victim of this one 

 

44. direction melee - it doesn't really improve  directional air attacks , and still unable to target ait units ,it seems to have  certain bugs / randomness built into it  , all it ends up doing is tripping me up / making my ground slam harder  to do  while in battle 

 

45 .  Commanders teleports  making me  unable to move / do anythign for too long   - annoying at low levels,  instant death at high levels

 

46. Dark sectors bait and switching  - the dark sectors have always been  a mess , but it doesn't seem all that hard to credit lock the people that join in .  So bait and switching shouldn't happen 

 

47 . Rng frustration -  we all had 20 + runs where that part that we need  is just not dropping  and seems never to drop -  i've given up  on  specific parts till the next hot fix / patch . 

 

48 . secondary fire weapons  inability to aim -  the quanta  is one of those long range weapons rifles that needs to have the secondary fire ie the firing the  boxes  via  my thumb button on my mouse  or by clicking  my scroll wheel 

 

49. Uranus Archwing wave 4 keys - it's 20-30 mins all for a arching part , not for  a t4 key ! - feels like  a slap to the face.

 

50 .  the old universe UI map - it connected the whole universe together  now it just feels like floating separate planets  

 

51- min map is soo messed up - right now 

 

52 - arch wing mini - this is almost a joke - after running the maps a few times you learn to ignore it  in sabotage / exterminate  vent maps  , and really need a 3d element 

 

53.  there so many weapons that are just useless if counted i bet they would number over 100 

 

54. 50 plat  for other warframe animations on  your warframe  - this one just confuses me - why so much  for so little 

 

55. Extractor drones caped at 3 , it was  1 every 5 levels  but they didn't keep up with the mastery levels - this one just feel like a broken promise  

 

 

special thanks to  -Arunafeltz - 41 , Akkerusia-43 , Darkslayer220-47 ,  SnakeCZR-48 ,  -  for adding there voice to this 

 

and a sound off to those that  took time to go down the list-  perfectStranger, ensignvidiot

Edited December 10, 2014 by Ravel7

[ensignvidiot]

41. Misleading Forum titles leading to false expectations and crushed hopes and dreams

[Arunafeltz]

42: Ordis

Edited December 9, 2014 by Arunafeltz

[GinKenshin]

you wrote 40 problems....now write 40 solutions and then we'll talk >_> that's the DE way 

[Samoth95]

Not gonna respond to all of these, but as far as Excavation goes...it WAS 3 during Cryotic Front, but because people in general are idiots it was brought down to 2 (someone said that apparently people were being dumb and activating all 3 at once and leaving them alone running around like headless chickens and drills were dying and they were whining cause they screwed up but they want to blame everyone but themselves, and because of this DE brought it down to 2. I like the mechanic as 2 a bit more, easier to split people up for defending - 2 and 2).

[Monsterwithin]

43: That there's only 40 reasons instead of 100.

[ensignvidiot]

you wrote 40 problems....now write 40 solutions and then we'll talk >_> that's the DE way 

 

My uber sarcasm aside, this Tenno hit the nail on teh head.

 

How do you think each of these issues should be corrected? 

[MrNonApplicable]

44: DE only responds with, offer solutions and we can help then when solutions crop up barely reply.

[GoSonic]

TL;DR 

Things that could make this game easier for me.

[(PSN)jwernecke]

My top 3...

#1... Those that can't count.

#2... Those that can't spell.

#3... Those that misspell in game items.

[GrizzlyBear]

100. Not being able to see my forehead.

Edited December 9, 2014 by GrizzlyBear

[vaugahn]

Wow. You have put a lot of effort into hating Warframe.

 

Congrats, I guess?

[Fabpsi]

43: That there's only 40 reasons instead of 100.

 

Thought the same^^

 

and about the "here are things i hate! Change it DE!!"

 

...no... thats not how it works.... this is pointless.

Megan said in another thread (https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/361312-things-that-are-wrong-with-this-game/?p=4008421  ,not a long time ago) this

 

As [player name] stated a couple posts up, feedback is just one side of the coin. Why don't you like A and B? What would you change about C?

 

We can only do so much with 'I don't like this or that'. Help us improve by giving some insight as to WHY you don't like it and what you would recommend!

[-HAKUNA-YOUR-TATAS-]

I got 99 problems, but Warframe ain't one.

Edited December 9, 2014 by sushidubya

[Dead10ck]

45: people who complain about things in a non-constructive and pointless manner.

[UnbeBleeder]

48:Threads that are soon to be locked because of all the hate they will generate.

[Noabettiet]

46. Auto roll - The antagonist to anyone who is trying to parkour in game. 

Edited December 9, 2014 by akkerusia

[Nira]

 

My top 3...

#1... Those that can't count.

#2... Those that can't spell.

#3... Those that misspell in game items.

 

 

Eurgh me too. Liek when I was looking for the barrel, stock, and receiver, all those four parts, for my Bolter Prime.

[JaysInc]

47. People who want change but don't post it in Feedback (i.e. this thread).

[(XBOX)Grihaly]

I got 99 problems, but Warframe ain't one.

This ^^^^^

[Tsukinoki]

@OP
And how would you solve #2 on your list?

If we didn't have life support it would be far too easy to sit in a place that AI can't hurt you and either wait for all the rewards you would ever want or kill them without any fear of retaliation until you get what you want.
No fear of dieing or ever failing that type of game play....

Life support is needed in survivals to keep players active and give an actual fail condition.

[DarkSlayer220]

101. When RNGesus doesn't like you.

[perfectStranger]

 

On the forums i've noticed a lot of ideas being repeated over and over  to the point where i just started writing down stuff as it annoys me . 

 

i figured  i would pre-pub this  and we all could add  #  of things in Warframe that really annoy us as players  so agree / disagree - read down the list and add the next # and add /  edit latter  ,

 

disclaimer-  ( this is intended as a list for stuff that DE needs to fix as added by the community  , not just bashing ) 

 

so without ado -  

 

1. the 2 man doors - there always going to be a faster player  in the game - means that he 's going to be bored and the slower player(s) are going to be annoyed by his ringing the door bell over and over 

Actually it could be even better if it was a puzzle game like locks, but to be played in 2 :)

 

2.  air rng / life support pods - IN survivals it sucks that some times i'm limited  how far i can go due to something i can't control

 ... but they are trying to make it better and also endless missions are not supposed to be endless anyway. Now the good things that they need to do is to remove the REQUIREMENT of having a nekros in the team for desecrate

 

3. charge attacks removed - i like doing them - alot of people did

I'm Still hoping they are going back to a mixed fight mode like in melee 1.0 but with 2 buttons for melee: 1 for light attack and one for strong attack and then to have the combos reworked to be used with those 2 keys combinations

 

4. quick block  being removed  and being melee mode only  ,  when  all your weapons should work together  

Agree

 

5. delay between switching between weapons  - speed aura doesn't fix it

Agree

 

6.  Energy siphon is a needed aura  no other aura even comes close

Not true, but others are really underwhelming, say Physique for example :)

 

 7. nekros desecrate spam  being needed in most survivals  and nekros needing to press 3 - 100s to 1000s of times 

Agree. Many times have been suggesting to either remove Desecrate as best case scenario, or at least to make quality of life improvements, like have it to cast only once on alive enemies (ala Radial Disarm or Sonar) then marked enemies will 100% chance benefit of desecrate effect

 

8 . ammo inequality  of the machine pistes - burn all your ammo in 2 clips , and spent the next 5 mins refilling ammo  before firing again 

Indifferent

 

9. shotgun ammo - just take it out 

Indifferent

 

10 .overheat -  accelate is better with it's buff/  blind built in - but i  liked using her as a tank  

WAT?

 

11. degen of argon cells 

It is a game mechanic, live with it

 

12. degen of Kurbrow 

Agree, this really makes me avoid using kubrows

 

13  stasis of kubrow and the 3 hour wait switching between them

Agree, see 12

 

14 . The pathfinding on Kubrows is horrible 

Minor problem, hopefully soon to be fixed, one beautiful day

 

15 arch traps - they makes no sense , have no lore and are way too hard hitting and hard to target 

It is a game mechanic, live with it

 

16  T1 rewards  where you get  - keys  for keys  esp. in  single reward missions ( non surivival / def / interception  ) in the void - no one is running void to get more void keys  on those 

Indifferent

 

17. dojo obstacle course  i hate the pillars , only place that even  there and it's just frustrating and boring 

Indifferent

 

18  phase bosses

Indifferent

 

19. concave scailing bosses - makes it impossible for new players to help when playing with old players

Indifferent, i feel it is correct, but maybe is better to scale the boss to the average conclave of the whole squad instead of the highest one; maybe using a geometric average so it is biased for giving higher CC than a linear average

 

20. stances /mods  that only drop off bosses 

It is a game mechanic, live with it

 

21 . proced to death-  posion . bleed i'm looking at you 

It is a game mechanic, live with it

 

22 .  green lazier door tripping over them  - breaks the flow of the game , shows  that it's better to be a rhino and just ignore  them

Indifferent

 

23.  delerict keys  - no point to these just mean that every del group needs to be premade and every one hates the map we only go there for vaults 

"Derelict". Implementing a fully automated matchmaking for void is desiderable, yet difficult, and could be disappointing if you lost one key for a bad group composition

 

24. vay hek keys 

It is a game mechanic, live with it

 

25. weapons that poorly copter 

It is a game mechanic, live with it

 

26. falling out side the map happens occ. 

It is a game mechanic, live with it... wait no, just some bugs

 

27 . excavation limit  of  2 excavators  at a time  it weirdly  wrecks excavation for me 

It is a game mechanic, live with it, and with random pugs is better because if the team is not coordinated you can get people wandering off the map just to die and then screaming in chat at you for the reason you didn't revive them in time

 

28. getting my weapons knocked from my hands -  " why don't sam and dean  just attach a teather to them "

It is a game mechanic, live with it

 

29. grineer - door locks - these always take too long to do , aren't challenging / fun  and  with any lag become impossible ;

they have become   an auto use cipher 

It is a game mechanic, live with it, and they are very fun for me

 

30  the shiva - shield doesn't block 

Agree, it could benefit of some parry chance proc since the lack in damage performance

 

31. interceptions being inherently boring  with 4 people you  just stand there and occannly kill mobs 

minor problem, spawn need to get tuned better, some are broken even

 

32. shared ammo pool weapons 

Minor annoyance

 

33. extermas mobs  only dropping oberon parts - alot of work for no reward - i have more than 60 full sets of oberon(s)

atm 

Sell them

 

34.  No Arch-wing parkour  just a stun/ bang into wall and try again 

Agree. I like the idea of archwing, but the action is still not developed fully, like you said we could need some additional effect else than the stun bang one, like a slide against a surface, but not necessarily ending up in a bang, it just ruin the experience and it gives me thet "outrun" effect when you crashed your car into something ->

 

35. Scaling - apologizes for not putting this as number 1 but after a year and a half of this omni-present issue little hope on this one

Scaling what?

 

36.  Arch-wing interception leaving the map cause your went 50 m in to empty space - happens a lot 

Agree

 

37. Multu - navs / keys , for Eris - Alad V  boss are all horrible waiting  for just one key

It is a game mechanic, live with it. it will be better after they introduce some new warframe and the mesa fever is gonna be over

 

38. Multi - Alad V   mind controlling is massively anti player agency

Indifferent

 

39. Mesa ult - is just watching  the game play it's self with a holding click as a  "your not sleeping are u ? " check 

Indifferent

 

40. New maps - being anti parkour - we can't climb most  objects/ walls in the newer tile sets 

Agree, got the same feeling like being in an archwing trench run

wow...done :)

[fatpig84]

DE refusing to acknowledge that Nullifiers made any small mag, low ROF weapons completely useless.

I am not even mad for losing the 4 spam but allowing a single ability to make an entire line up of underused weapons even more underused (except Brakk and Marelok).

 

Yes you can walk in to shoot him.

Yes you can slide melee.

Works great until level 45 and if you are tanky.

 

But after that just spray him with Boltor Prime and move on.

Probably because the Soma Prime is coming and we can't have more weapons to outshine it I guess.

[ensignvidiot]

wow...done :)

 

Okay, Ill do it too!

Yay Positive Feedback!

 

 

1. the 2 man doors - there always going to be a faster player  in the game - means that he 's going to be bored and the slower player(s) are going to be annoyed by his ringing the door bell over and over 

Friendship doors are a good idea to keep the team together. I hate the slow of it, but then I kick myself for shooting so far ahead of other players that arent as skilled as i am.

2.  air rng / life support pods - IN survivals it sucks that some times i'm limited  how far i can go due to something i can't control

True, however it is still possible to stay at least one full rotation of rewards (20 minutes) without the use of a Nekros. RNG as an enemy isnt an extremely flawed idea, it ads a layer of difficulty to the mission. I'd be more angry if i couldnt make it to 20 minutes without a nekros in the party

3. charge attacks removed - i like doing them - alot of people did

I agree. But i like channeling+Combos. While different, ive grown to enjoy the increased damage output and consistance of the damage instead. Charge builds used to win games, now its Channeling builds. YAY PROGRESS

4. quick block  being removed  and being melee mode only  ,  when  all your weapons should work together  

I agree

5. delay between switching between weapons  - speed aura doesn't fix it 

I agree as well. I would like faster frames and low armor frames would be quicker on the draw, since it matters most to them

6.  Energy siphon is a needed aura  no other aura even comes close 

BLATANT LIES.

I use auras on different frames for different situations:

Energy siphon  IS most common.

Rejuvination is on Trinity (for additional healing), Frost Prime (default polarity), and Saryn (ditto, and i build health because of high armor).

Corrosive Projection is on Nekros, as high level survival enemies are quite resilient

Steel Charge is on my Valkyr because Hysteria

I will forma Mesa for Rifle Amp, because Ultimate

Loki (and soon Mirage) will get a Dead-Eye, because they are my sniper frames.

its a PERSONAL CHOICE to be energy-reliant. You can sidestep it with weapons, or building energy drops

 7. nekros desecrate spam  being needed in most survivals  and nekros needing to press 3 - 100s to 1000s of times 

Again, this is a personal Choice.

​I only do it once an ally pushes '4', as the bodycount warrants a huge desecrate sweep

8 . ammo inequality  of the machine pistes - burn all your ammo in 2 clips , and spent the next 5 mins refilling ammo  before firing again 

Ammo Economy - its what balances out slowfiring to fastfiring weapons.

Its up to you to mod the weapon's built-in weakness. As DE putting horrible ammo economy is the balance for that weapon's pluses.

If you hate mods, you could build ammo drops

9. shotgun ammo - just take it out 

Why?

Actually, Why not?

Primary Ammo, Secondary Ammo, Specialty Ammo (launchers and Arrows)

10 .overheat -  accelate is better with it's buff/  blind built in - but i  liked using her as a tank  

I never had ember when overheat existed. But again, Accelerant is a nice damage boost.

11. degen of argon cells 

Its to hurt Veterans.

We have huge piles of resources, so... for Tenno reinforcements we would log in, build the thing. Come in the next day and rank it up in a day or two.

12. degen of Kurbrow 

Im with you here.

Lorewise, it makes senes.... but WHY CANT MY SHIPS CEPHALON FEED MY DOG FOR ME AND WARN ME IF HE IS ABOUT TO DIE OR THE INJECTORS ARE LOW!?

It would make Ordis usefull

13  stasis of kubrow and the 3 hour wait switching between them 

Hate this too.

14 . The pathfinding on Kubrows is horrible 

Eh, my Huras seems to follow me well and good.

I cant take him into derelicts, as she likes to splash in deadly electro-water

15 arch traps - they makes no sense , have no lore and are way too hard hitting and hard to target 

Makes sense to me.

Grineer are faced with warriors that move faster than most of their grunts can aim. So theyneed traps to even the playingfield

Arctraps zap out sheilds and may get us to stop moving to shoot them, and Mag-Screens stops us from using our Grineer-killing powers.

16  T1 rewards  where you get  - keys  for keys  esp. in  single reward missions ( non surivival / def / interception  ) in the void - no one is running void to get more void keys  on those 

with you there.

ive gotten more keys than hikou parts from t1 captures

17. dojo obstacle course  i hate the pillars , only place that even  there and it's just frustrating and boring 

ditto

18  phase bosses

I love Phase Bosses, it gives me a sense of progression, and shows boss design intellegence and ads more flavor to what would have been an otherwise boring fight.

19. concave scailing bosses - makes it impossible for new players to help when playing with old players

Do you have proof of this? I was aware that bosses only scaled to the average level of the current frames/gear. I didnt know anything about conclave

20. stances /mods  that only drop off bosses 

im indifferent

21 . proced to death-  posion . bleed i'm looking at you 

Enemies have to kill the super-sayin ninjas SOMEHOW

22 .  green lazier door tripping over them  - breaks the flow of the game , shows  that it's better to be a rhino and just ignore  them

Corpus need to counter us: see grineer note above

23.  delerict keys  - no point to these just mean that every del group needs to be premade and every one hates the map we only go there for vaults 

They are DAMN GOOD for Mutagen, Neurode, and O Cell Farming. Also: Lephantis has a high chance to drop up to  4 Cells in one fight! I love running Derelicts when im low on raw potatoes.

Recruitment is good for getting people. There is always a few people that need to run whatever

24. vay hek keys 

While a pain, i dont mind them. I can just farm Ceres for them... MESA on the other hand...

25. weapons that poorly copter 

If you have a proper copter/rush build, dont use the,

26. falling out side the map happens occ. 

those are bugs, report them and then they get fixed!

27 . excavation limit  of  2 excavators  at a time  it weirdly  wrecks excavation for me 

thats ALSO a bug, you should report and submit your Error Log so they can fix it! I often have 3 drills up if they are in the same tileset

28. getting my weapons knocked from my hands -  " why don't sam and dean  just attach a teather to them "

Adds depth and intelegence to our enemies: see grineer note above. Note that melee weapons can NOT be disarmed, and a waypoint is spawned on your weapn

29. grineer - door locks - these always take too long to do , aren't challenging / fun  and  with any lag become impossible ;

they have become   an auto use cipher 

I disagree, but you infact mentioned that you can sidestep them with ciphers! or let allies do them

30  the shiva - shield doesn't block 

Yeah, where is that Fix? They DID have a poll on it!

31. interceptions being inherently boring  with 4 people you  just stand there and occannly kill mobs 

Play high-level or Void interceptions. After round 2-3, i have a hard time keeping points without dying.

Or... you could NOT use your 100% overpowered Win-At-All-Costs build! I do it from time to time to give me a challenge, Ill take a powerful frame with crappy weapons to level, or a forma'd frame with high level weapons!

32. shared ammo pool weapons 

Never cared much

33. extermas mobs  only dropping oberon parts - alot of work for no reward - i have more than 60 full sets of oberon(s)

atm 

makes him the easiest frame to get. which means a lot of new players can build Broberon. Which means a lot more supportframes in Pug matches.

Though, i would like it if Eximi mobs had a 25% chance of dropping a node's rare resource

34.  No Arch-wing parkour  just a stun/ bang into wall and try again 

THIS IS MY ONLY COMPLAINT ABOUT ARCHWING RIGHT HERE!

35. Scaling - apologizes for not putting this as number 1 but after a year and a half of this omni-present issue little hope on this one

Yes. Weapon-Teirs and more direct upgrades (like latron to tiberon) need to happen

36.  Arch-wing interception leaving the map cause your went 50 m in to empty space - happens a lot 

I hate it too, needs to just port you to start

37. Multu - navs / keys , for Eris - Alad V  boss are all horrible waiting  for just one key

seriously. I hate mesa. I dont even want to see mesa in my game. its a reminder that a frame exists that i WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO GET BECAUSE I HAVE A LIFE AND CANT WAIT FOR INVASIONS

I feel your pain on this one

38. Multi - Alad V   mind controlling is massively anti player agency

Oh hey, a boss mechanic that makes the boss dangerous and scary. We need more of these

39. Mesa ult - is just watching  the game play it's self with a holding click as a  "your not sleeping are u ? " check 

sorry, i'd be having too much fun pretending to be a Grammiton Cleric to care.

40. New maps - being anti parkour - we can't climb most  objects/ walls in the newer tile sets 

Agree, we are starting to feel less like ninjas