immolator1001 Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 (edited) Whether intentional or not DE has made it so there is no reason to replay the missions. After you get the point and credits, why would you spend time to farm a key just to play it again? There is no reward. Most importantly we don't really care about the relays. There is no difference between them and there is no reason to have more than 1, especially since people only ever use the vesper relay. This event just wasn't well planned if they wanted a large group of the player base to replay these missions, we have no motivation. Edited December 21, 2014 by immolator1001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasha_Nox Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 thats so true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xkillo32 Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 except the next void trader will spawn on the saturn one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiabolusUrsus Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 (edited) I doubt DE will just scrap something they've spent months developing, so I'm willing to bet that if we lose most of our relays that will simply mean an event for rebuilding them is going to be in the works. That said, I agree. They could give people a reason to replay by making the battle-pay non one-time-only. (The credits, not the points.) Edited December 21, 2014 by DiabolusUrsus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickelshark Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Not to mention it's an archwing event Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DotBeta Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Well, I guess that's your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranks21 Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 well if you were actually getting telerium from playing these it would've made a world of difference, but in my run through all of the archwing missions available and not get one well its just pointless to play archwing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tutzdes Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 They should make Archwing playable before starting any event at all. Currently it's a bugfest with massive amounts of host migrations, crashes and interface not suitable for real 3D orientation. It was totally unplayable at the start, but even now you'll get more game crashes per 3 hours of archwinging than in a month of playing regular missions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
immolator1001 Posted December 21, 2014 Author Share Posted December 21, 2014 Well, I guess that's your opinion. Its kinda fact. Did you ever go to any other relays besides vesper? No one was ever there and there was nothing different about them. Some people are like "Well the people who like the relays will rise up and protect them!" But that's clearly not true, since we'll be losing most of them and people stop playing after they get a reward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodCarnival Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 DESTROY ALL THE RELAYS!Except for Pluto's.But I think we already saved one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yles9056 Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Perhaps they will rebuild destroyed ones in the future with different looks. That's how they introduce new looking relays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapphirya Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 DESTROY ALL THE RELAYS! Except for Pluto's. But I think we already saved one. Keep in mind that later Fomorians might come back to the Vesper relay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sziklamester Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 I hope in the future they wont force the players to play archwing missions because i am not a fan of it and i want my maps unlocked. Now I can't do nightmare becasuse of archwing. For the relays we need mostly more reward and useful npc-s to give us random missions/quests. That give some reason to go to the relays btw they are all looking same without differences. I hope sometimes they add own tilesets for those relays. Also the dojo should be turn a place where you can do the same but with option to build and add npc-s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archistopheles Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Only time will tell. If you could really predict the future, you should be in Vegas betting on ponies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHunterX Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Whether intentional or not DE has made it so there is no reason to replay the missions. After you get the point and credits, why would you spend time to farm a key just to play it again? There is no reward. Most importantly we don't really care about the relays. There is no difference between them and there is no reason to have more than 1, especially since people only ever use the vesper relay. This event just wasn't well planned if they wanted a large group of the player base to replay these missions, we have no motivation. Remember when everyone was saying "It's a Rhino statue because he's from Venus!"? When I went into the Pluto relay once they opened it and saw that same giant Rhino statue I just laughed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHIR0B0N Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 People just use Vesper because the Void Trader popped up there the first time. Had he popped at Strata, everyone would use Strata and nothing else. But yeah, I do agree that there is no purpose to have 7 instances of the same thing. Maybe if they made changes like, stick one syndicate per relay, then we might have a reason to have different relays. But now, pff... I say let all relays die, but one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yazeth Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Rather than purposely destroying the rails, DE overestimated the players and their drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vayde_Knyght Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 (edited) Remember when everyone was saying "It's a Rhino statue because he's from Venus!"? -snip- People actually thought that? I always thought it was just 'cause Rhino is machoframe or whatever nonsense like that.. :P Edited December 21, 2014 by Knight3169 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgax Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 So if relays get destroyed except for one, void trade will always appear there, i smell win-win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsyadpower Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 its to promote the new archwing covert set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beldhan Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Rather than purposely destroying the rails, DE overestimated the players and their drive. totally, but i will maybe rude, isn't kinda naive to think that player will run mission for free? because that the point, we do run mission for free. without forget, i love archwing, but it have some major issue still not solved, like the mods/item really hard to find or the lack of 3d map for find more easily the enemy. and like said by other people before me... it's the holiday a lot of people are preparing for christmas :x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoneBreakerx Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 Not to mention it's an archwing event this... since the introduction of archwing i have rarely seen more then 5 squads pr archwing node... the playerbase simply dosent like archwing... and the reason is that it has nothing to do with warframe... if they had made it like i thought (and was hyped about) so its another form of extraction then ppl might actually enjoy it... only reason i play it is for mastery rank... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HitokiriGuille Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 I doubt DE will just scrap something they've spent months developing, so I'm willing to bet that if we lose most of our relays that will simply mean an event for rebuilding them is going to be in the works. That said, I agree. They could give people a reason to replay by making the battle-pay non one-time-only. (The credits, not the points.) I think they have something else if we lose the relay, maybe starts a second timer, or leaves that relay partially destroyed and we have to rebuild it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axeroix Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 well if you were actually getting telerium from playing these it would've made a world of difference, but in my run through all of the archwing missions available and not get one well its just pointless to play archwing. yesyesyesyesyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beldhan Posted December 21, 2014 Share Posted December 21, 2014 this... since the introduction of archwing i have rarely seen more then 5 squads pr archwing node... the playerbase simply dosent like archwing... and the reason is that it has nothing to do with warframe... if they had made it like i thought (and was hyped about) so its another form of extraction then ppl might actually enjoy it... only reason i play it is for mastery rank... i don't think like you, arch wing is fun, sadly people have the habit to faceroll content with OP warframe power when the archwing power are often bad.... and take age for get really powerfull enough. the previous concern that i have said play a huge part into it. before they did change the mods drop from the interception of earth, get mods for archwing was quite hard.... people did grow to hate this mods when it's kinda fun with friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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