prodavit Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Well I have her and FLEETING + STREAMLINE + PEACEMAKER + HOLDING DOWN TRIGGER = EVERYONE DIES I don't like playing with people who have mesa on sometimes since they would kill everyone and I'm left standing there. FIX- could make peacemaker semi-auto, that will still make her powerful but not a spray and pray power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuftProducts Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Nothing against her...but she´s so boring to play imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishki88 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 10k damage is op Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Husky_Pride Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 look another mesa op topic. there have been extensive discussions about mesa already, just search mesa + op Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terumitsu Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 She originally WAS Semi-auto. Thing is, that gave her even faster attack speed for those who wanted it so... Yeah... Also, she is only OP in certain mission types while others she isn't so potent. Defense she's great at until higher levels but most other missions require more mobility than her 'turret mode.' She's niche-ly potent but not OP where she dominates all game types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-----iseeu2----- Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Nah she's not OP. Peacemaker makes her susceptible to damage too, and it falls off way too fast at higher level content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaSierraMike Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 ....and the same thing can't happen with other 4th nukers? Besides, one of the selling point is that Peacemaker has a wind up time to make it fire extremely fast, with semi auto, you might as well just use your gun for all the damage that it can dish out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrKage Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 No, but Nerf Trinity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archistopheles Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 She's what Ember should have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaosdreamer Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 She's what Ember should have been. Ember used to be somewhat good ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ensignvidiot Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Not really. She has a VERY FAST Damage falloff in high level content She relies on Corrosive Projection,Blind Rage+Transfort to survive for any length of time in T4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)TheArrowOfGod Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 No. shhhh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaceninjaaaa Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 (edited) So Mesa is OP for having her ultimate that attacks only one target at the time, but not ash that can attack three enemies at a time with 1000 finisher damage unmodded? Or an excalibur spamming 4 that stuns and hits every single enemy within radius? Or Loki taking away enemy guns? Or Mirage's furious disco ball?I don't follow your logic Edited March 7, 2015 by Hitmonho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7grims Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 (edited) No, but Nerf Trinity Lol so true, DE is forgetting to nerf trinity, she still can move and walk, and even haves health and shield bars, that b*tch is still to op for me. ----- For mesa. I do not find her to be that good, to even remotely call her op, she might need some buff or tweek. Considering a buff on this tread may seem ludicrous, but yah, she isn't that perfect or strong as you paint it. Edited March 7, 2015 by 7grims Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frawg Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 (edited) For the category of DPS, she is on the middle part of the stack; she can reach no more than 3.5k per hit. Saryn, Ash, Banshee, Mirage, Nova all can easily overtake her in DPS, given when played together (I'd say very comparable to Mag or Exal in certain situations). Many people think she's over-powered because she has a near-100% accuracy with an okay-sized damage per shot which /seems/ to kill many enemies really quickly, but she really has a hard time controlling the battle filed (more than that of Banshee in terms of DPS) in the latter levels of enemies; she drops off damage real fast. 7-15k DPS across a crowd of enemies is pennies of how many other frames (or even weapons) can scale at. If anything in my opinion, she is underpowered; she should be able to move in peacemaker to make her comparable to the upper stack of DPS frames Edited March 7, 2015 by Frawg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)brenon45 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Well I have her and FLEETING + STREAMLINE + PEACEMAKER + HOLDING DOWN TRIGGER = EVERYONE DIES I don't like playing with people who have mesa on sometimes since they would kill everyone and I'm left standing there. FIX- could make peacemaker semi-auto, that will still make her powerful but not a spray and pray power. ........No, Nerf Mirage, her Discoball hurts enemies... Nerf Nova, she can slow or Speed up Enemies... Nerf Trinity, she can Heal everyone... Nerf Rhino, His stomp can stun Enemies... Nerf Frost, his Snow Globe blocks enemies attack temporally... Nerf .... See where were going with this..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRufus7x Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 I think Peacemaker has enough disadvantages that it is fine as is. All pure damage abilities do not scale particularly well.It requires line of sight. You cannot move while it is active. It isn't that great for more mobile gametypes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khazlol Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 great for leveling stuff, dont need to equip any 30 weapons :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-InV-igo95862 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Press 4 to win in nutshell. Drinking bird in absolute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeMeritus Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Her ultimate roots her in place and at higher levels her damage dealing drops off dramatically. In T4 to have her be useful beyond a certain point you'll need corrosive projection on. If all you're running her on is level 10 to 20 areas, then yeah. But the same can be said of any frame. If anything, a lot of us wouldn't mind her getting buffed against higher level enemies. If you want nerfs, then you may want to look at your own favorite gear, the stuff you enjoy using, and see if you want to ask that to be nerfed, instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prany Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 No, Nerf Mirage, her Discoball hurts enemies... Nerf Nova, she can slow or Speed up Enemies... Nerf Trinity, she can Heal everyone... Nerf Rhino, His stomp can stun Enemies... Nerf Frost, his Snow Globe blocks enemies attack temporally... Nerf .... See where were going with this..... Slippery slope fallacy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaFragolino Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 No, but Nerf Trinity Hey, Mag needs to be nerfed first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IIPREDATORII Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 No clue. Don't have Mesa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey33 Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Just because you feel useless doesn't guarantee that it is from Mesa. Tag me in and I will melt everything with my Saryn + copter before you even shoot one bullet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikingHelm Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 I don't like playing with people who have mesa on sometimes since they would kill everyone and I'm left standing there. Don't like it? Play Solo. Peacemaker was Semi-auto once and people complained a lot. It makes the whole mission easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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