Umm, What Just Happened?

[(PSN)Forsales]

I joined some random people to do a T1 defense, not expecting to go past level 10 since I'm still pretty new, Right? Well we got to 30. There was this Mesa who was either Jesus or a Hacker. He stood in front of the cryopod, got into some weird stance, and started one shotting enemies through walls until level 20 or 25, which is when he started 2-3 shotting them. I counted the mods that I picked up and I got 44 mods that game. I got a Forma blueprint, like 3 new keys, and an Orokin Cell. So what just happened?

[DazDaSpazz]

That would be Peacemaker. Mesa's 4th ability.

[LordOfScrugging]

that's mesa's ultimate. she pulls out the pistols on her arm and stands in place shooting all enemies within 50 meters. she auto aims at them so all you gotta do is hold the fire button

[(PSN)Forsales]

That would be Peacemaker. Mesa's 4th ability.

 

 

that's mesa's ultimate. she pulls out the pistols on her arm and stands in place shooting all enemies within 50 meters. she auto aims at them so all you gotta do is hold the fire button

But she just stood there and didn't collect any energy... How did she keep using it over and over again without moving? I'm pretty new, so maybe I'm missing something, but that didn't seem normal :/   Also the mods, that's not normal is it? 44 Mods from 30 levels? Maybe we got incredibly lucky or something...

[KlarVyvern]

But she just stood there and didn't collect any energy... How did she keep using it over and over again without moving? I'm pretty new, so maybe I'm missing something, but that didn't seem normal :/   Also the mods, that's not normal is it? 44 Mods from 30 levels? Maybe we got incredibly lucky or something...

Energy drains over time with Peacemaker, and with sufficient modding it will drain ridiculously slow, and he/she probably used a energy restore in-between.

[(PSN)WiiConquered]

But she just stood there and didn't collect any energy... How did she keep using it over and over again without moving? I'm pretty new, so maybe I'm missing something, but that didn't seem normal :/   Also the mods, that's not normal is it? 44 Mods from 30 levels? Maybe we got incredibly lucky or something...

 

There are a few possibilities:

 

1. energy restores

2. another frame, Trinity, can turn enemies into energy batteries.

3. Energy efficiency mods and/or max energy mods can allow certain abilities to last a lot longer.

[Drunkenbagel]

She must've been running an efficiency build. You can keep Peacemaker going for quite a while if running an efficiency build. Also energy orbs can be picked up in peacemaker if they happen to fall on her.

[MagPrime]

Google; Warframe Mesa

 

http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Mesa_%28Warframe%29

 

Google:  Warframe Mesa Profile

 

 

May the power of Tableframe be with you.

[Gelkor]

It's also possible you guys had a Greedy Mag who was feeding Mesa.  Or a Limbo feeding her.

[smithf]

Mesa is the legal aimbot of warframe.

[GDSK-NXS]

I have to point something, were you with a Nekros? because I remember going on missions and leaving with around 200 mods every 45 waves. Good luck farming mesa :)

[Mesyra]

Ah yes, Mesa.

 

she is a lot of fun to play in lower missions with her ult, but it falls off after a while in later missions, shes actually pretty balanced.

[Doom_Bunny]

 through walls

There was a person a couple of days ago that said the same thing, that Mesa was shooting through walls. She does have line of sight up to 50m (according to wiki) but there is yet to be any evidence of Mesa shooting through walls.

 

Did you stand behind walls and see enemies get shot?

Edited April 17, 2015 by Postal_pat

[Gelkor]

There was a person a couple of days ago that said the same thing, that Mesa was shooting through walls. She does have line of sight up to 50m (according to wiki) but there is yet to be any evidence of Mesa shooting through walls.

 

Did you stand behind walls and see enemies get shot?

 

The angles on her LOS seem to be very... forgiving. I've notice several times shooting things just around the corner, that would have been in LOS had they kept moving like, half a second longer.  IE: I've shot things in Peacemaker just barely before they even came into view. In fact now that I think about it it's actually probably due to a visual discrepancy between host and client. 

Edited April 17, 2015 by Gelkor

[noteom]

my buddy used mesa for the manic alert

we were closed up in that little room and he shot them thru walls

[(PSN)Forsales]

I have to point something, were you with a Nekros? because I remember going on missions and leaving with around 200 mods every 45 waves. Good luck farming mesa :)

No, there was no Nekros. I don't remember exactly who was there, but I know there was no Nekros.

[tennoninjahunter]

 Also the mods, that's not normal is it? 44 Mods from 30 levels? Maybe we got incredibly lucky or something...

44 mods from 30 waves, i'd say u're unlucky instead

[(PSN)Forsales]

44 mods from 30 waves, i'd say u're unlucky instead

Really? I always have crap luck in games like this so drops like that are extremely lucky :/

[Wulfhram]

44 mods from 30 waves, i'd say u're unlucky instead

Indeed, and aparently no Prime parts either, very unlucky.

[maumastoks]

lol that isn't hacking =D got my mesa about a week ago. Damn loving it.

 

Needs proper modding and even with max power efficiency she requires huge amounts of energy to sustain Peacemaker, so she usually can be seen with Greedy Pull Mag / Limbo / Trinity also she requires some protection (unless she wants to break her peacemaker to re-cast shatter shield) from Frost / Limbo / Vauban. Her main weaknesses are nullifiers (enemies that come with huge yellow (orokin void) or blue (corpus) bubbles) and melee enemies.

Edited April 17, 2015 by maumastoks

[Darzk]

With Rank 9 Primed Flow (Cause really, who has the spare cores to max these prime mods?) my Mesa has 400 energy.

With 75% Efficiency, Peacemaker drains 3.75 energy per second with a 2 second activation cost... Basically, I can stay in Peacemaker for 104.66 seconds without any help from teammates. 

 

This is how the majority of Mesa's have configured their modding as well.

[(PSN)IkariWarrior83]

I counted the mods that I picked up and I got 44 mods that game. I got a Forma blueprint, like 3 new keys, and an Orokin Cell. So what just happened?

Sounds like a good time, to me, lol.

 

Mesa either shoots through walls, or her projectiles curve around like that movie Wanted.  I'm not complaining, but I feel like Peacemaker is going to get an unjust nerf at some point in the future.  OP stuff always gets nerfed into boredom :/

[Darzk]

As I understand it, the game engine is always running a little bit faster than the clients - peacemaker queries the game, asking 'can I see that guy', the game says 'sure he just came around the corner', peacemaker shoots him... meanwhile client-side the enemy has just reached the corner.

 

It's not really shooting through walls, you can just hit some things about a 1/3rd of a second before they are in LoS. No big deal. Could use a technical adjustment but it wouldn't really change the effectiveness of the frame at all.

[Sabreracer]

The gaps in scenery can allow her to shoot enemies that are in range but not easily visible.  

 

With lotsa buffs  she can go much further.  Using her with friends we got to Wave 82 on T1D a few weeks ago.