Cubewano Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 1. That's why there is a feedback section. takes mere minutes to grab screenshots and post in correct place. 2. T3 cap anyone? If you cannot afford the kubrow, you do not deserve the kubrow. 3. Trade tab. 4. That's why we have carrier/Helios sentinel. 5 Yeah,,,,, you got me there. 6. Breeding and trading imprints? plus market has skins and colors. 7. Don't understand?? 8. Same as #6. 9. I disagree. Although I'm not a massive fan of the Kubrow myself & love me my carrier, I do think some of your peeves with the Kubrow are easily remedied. Just a thought. 1. Even so it doesn't change that fact that their AI is currently pretty lack luster, saying we can offer feedback on it doesn't negate the situation nor does it even promise it'll change. 2. That also doesn't change the fact it has a cost, which its sentinel equivalents do not, so extra effort must still be put into the kurbrow to keep it functional while there's just as equal an option with no cost. (the cost can also be stacked with other fields of maintenance do further the dislike) 3. Having to trade for it is probably as equally annoying as having to farm for it, so the frustration/displeasure remains. 4. So you're on the same page with that I'm guessing. 5. Yup 6. No comment 7. I think he's referring to how damage tends to fall off pretty hard late game, so since the kurbrow are lacking in more utility based abilities it makes them less preferable late-game 8. Even with imprints kurbrow are locked behind a layer of grind and rng that is unpleasant for most players, especially since sentinels have no such qualities even to slight degrees 9. If they aren't yet, they will be soon (as indicated by the shelter mod and the coming kurbrow version of the carrier) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)D-onlinekilla-4D Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 1. Even so it doesn't change that fact that their AI is currently pretty lack luster, saying we can offer feedback on it doesn't negate the situation nor does it even promise it'll change. 2. That also doesn't change the fact it has a cost, which its sentinel equivalents do not, so extra effort must still be put into the kurbrow to keep it functional while there's just as equal an option with no cost. (the cost can also be stacked with other fields of maintenance do further the dislike) 3. Having to trade for it is probably as equally annoying as having to farm for it, so the frustration/displeasure remains. 4. So you're on the same page with that I'm guessing. 5. Yup 6. No comment 7. I think he's referring to how damage tends to fall off pretty hard late game, so since the kurbrow are lacking in more utility based abilities it makes them less preferable late-game 8. Even with imprints kurbrow are locked behind a layer of grind and rng that is unpleasant for most players, especially since sentinels have no such qualities even to slight degrees 9. If they aren't yet, they will be soon (as indicated by the shelter mod and the coming kurbrow version of the carrier) I see, its also good to hear others opinions. 7. thanks for clarifying :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaisty Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Now if only we could merge Kubrows and Sentinels together. Think about a Kubrow with a Carrier backpack that sucks up the drops while shooting from time to time. Sure all the drops would follow the Kubrow, but it would do a loop back to the owner / group before rushing ahead and continuing its mission. Or can we build a mini archwing for our Kubrows so they hover off the ground for certain situations? Won't have to worry about them dying from ground based damage, plus it would be cool to hop on the same mini wing and fly across things like Mega man did with rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPie5 Posted May 16, 2015 Author Share Posted May 16, 2015 Now if only we could merge Kubrows and Sentinels together. Think about a Kubrow with a Carrier backpack that sucks up the drops while shooting from time to time. Sure all the drops would follow the Kubrow, but it would do a loop back to the owner / group before rushing ahead and continuing its mission. Or can we build a mini archwing for our Kubrows so they hover off the ground for certain situations? Won't have to worry about them dying from ground based damage, plus it would be cool to hop on the same mini wing and fly across things like Mega man did with rush. I like the way you think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sebastianx Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Majority of people don't like then because they are expensive and also take some work to make they good. Most people don't even completely max out their sentinels lol. I bet you five bucks if DE started putting a cost on owning carrier there would be far less of them. After Wyrm P came out I waited for Dethcube prime...still waiting, reason why I'm not putting those last 2 formas on him T_T should have put them LOOOONG ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiSaZuL Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 (edited) Guardian mod alone is better then any fleasack out there fully modded or otherwise. Add to that atrocious piece of gutter trash AI... yeah... glorious. Oh you play loki/ash? Well guess @(*()$ what... that fleasack will agro entire map while invisible and get you killed. Outstanding. If you aren't stealthy type... then they will simply block half your shots because again their AI is revolutionary. Oh did I mention that 99.9% of the time they get *@##$slapped out of the way? They also eat credits... and they get so so sad after charging ahead getting rolled and dying. That S#&$sack doesn't have anything over a proper sentinel or a proper sentinel weapon. What use is there in slash damage without status. Well, at the end of the day it's DE we are talking about so it's not really that surprising tbh. Thinking and fleshing things out before throwing them out and forgetting about them is how things roll here nowdays. Edited May 16, 2015 by HiSaZuL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3ST Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 As long as DE is still punishing us for changing Kubrows, with a 3 hour stasis lockdown,.... AND the stupid loyalty mechanic,... Im not gonna touch them with a red hot poker... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Alex_Traffo Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 I have a Kubrow with the same amount of Forma on, my dear Shepard. But, I honestly find Kubrow maintenance to be quite a pain compared to sentinels and the fact he won't replenish my shields it's a considerable negative point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)SKRIMP-N-GRITZ Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 (edited) I think it's fine to prefer sentinals, but it's hilarious how against them some people are. Don't like them? Don't use them. When I disliked them I refused to revive them unless it was absolutely convenient to me, and I still operate that way. My Huras is my shade but I don't have the attack mod on. He absolutely is at no risk of going down until 60 min of T4 survival, and I've had him along to ~75-80 min without sweating it. My sentinels never last that long. I'm fine collecting my own pickups, and it's my preference to not have sentinels not use weapons - I hate having mod conflicts and as a person who is constantly switching weapons that's in thing I like not dealing with. I don't care about credit cost in not some broke scrub. The recovery time is BS but what're I'm a big boy I can deal with it. The point is kubrow, huras specifically, work for me. For you that don't like them that's fine you don't have to. As for talking about DE making improvements? C'mon what couldnt use tweaking? Edited May 16, 2015 by (PS4)SKRIMP-N-GRITZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WereFowl Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 The second they get a suction mod like sweeper ill use them till then they are mastery fodder, sweeper is just way to useful to switch out for anything else. ^ This guy gets it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknow99 Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 (edited) http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140908205318/warframe/images/thumb/9/92/ProtectModU145.png/225px-ProtectModU145.png Oooooooohh.... Yes.... for Raksa ~~ You gotta admit, sandrock, he owned you this time... :D (I also wasn't expectng kubrows to restore shield) Edited May 16, 2015 by unknow99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WERElektro Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 (edited) Oooooooohh.... You gotta admit, sandrock, he owned you this time... :D (I also wasn't expectng kubrows to restore shield) Well.. what can I say... The Raksa was my first Kubrow and that was veeeery long ago. I just remember that they could chase away enemies and that the environment would darken when they used that skill... and it was very irritating. Edited May 16, 2015 by WEREsandrock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)D-onlinekilla-4D Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 (edited) I'm not out to own anyone here, just to maybe help and have constructive feedback on the topic. After all we can all learn stuff from one another, Edited May 16, 2015 by (PS4)D-onlinekilla-4D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknow99 Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Well.. what can I say... The Raksa was my first Kubrow and that was veeeery long ago. I just remember that they could chase away enemies and that the environment would darken when they used that skill... and it was very irritating. I'm not out to own anyone here, just to maybe help and have constructive feedback on the topic. After all we can all learn stuff from one another, If you ask me, I wait until they add the ability to give them orders + other types of kubrows (I don't find them beautiful in general) + reduction of the tamagotchi stuff... I need to study & have a social life, I can't take care of a binary representation of a space dog regularly... :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoidNomade Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 What needs to be done: - tamagotschi - stasis + smart AI (or animation rework to make them attack faster and the ability to ragdoll) + Kubrow skills are no mods (like warframes) + more attack patterns (wall attacks for example) That won´t happen though because than they would be in general be better than guardians. So you should demand Companion 2.0 A rework for companions would be awesome. Poor shade =( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)D-onlinekilla-4D Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 (edited) It was mentioned on one of the recent streams that they where getting looked at, in regards to access/faster access, was I believe mentioned also, will try and find if I can stay awake. Partying last night took it out of me considering I rarely drink. Peace out. skip to 41 mins Edited May 17, 2015 by (PS4)D-onlinekilla-4D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gr3vi3R Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Still a pain in the a$$ to mantain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubewano Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 I think it's fine to prefer sentinals, but it's hilarious how against them some people are. Don't like them? Don't use them. When I disliked them I refused to revive them unless it was absolutely convenient to me, and I still operate that way. My Huras is my shade but I don't have the attack mod on. He absolutely is at no risk of going down until 60 min of T4 survival, and I've had him along to ~75-80 min without sweating it. My sentinels never last that long. I'm fine collecting my own pickups, and it's my preference to not have sentinels not use weapons - I hate having mod conflicts and as a person who is constantly switching weapons that's in thing I like not dealing with. I don't care about credit cost in not some broke scrub. The recovery time is BS but what're I'm a big boy I can deal with it. The point is kubrow, huras specifically, work for me. For you that don't like them that's fine you don't have to. As for talking about DE making improvements? C'mon what couldnt use tweaking? Problem with this mindset is that nothing would get done if we all operated like that. This is a game, we enjoy it, we want it to prosper, the people who make it want it to prosper (i hope), and the best way to do that is by feedback. If we treat every bad aspect of the game as inevitable and just toss it over the shoulder without a care then nothing winds up fixed, and the crap just starts to pile up. It has nothing to do with us being big kids or not (which, in what world is it un-grown up to have opinions that you vocalize) and all to do with wanting this game to improve itself. Being a indifferent lump of sand does nobody any favors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoIaris Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Wait people don't like them? Whaaaaat? All jokes aside they are like specialised weapons that need time an effort to get the best out of them you need to mod them appropriately. On a side note they are very cute, and my first one was a pure white with lotus mark, and I really wanted a sunika and it was one, making me very happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iuki. Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Last one died and it apparently got ejected out into space..... Thanks Ordos! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oystar Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 4 Eggs, Same breed every time. F*** Kubrows i hatched 5 eggs with only one repeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iuki. Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 I have hatched 9 now, all repeats hence why I let the last one die. :( R.I.P. Mr. Fuzzybutt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypernaut1 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Problem with this mindset is that nothing would get done if we all operated like that. This is a game, we enjoy it, we want it to prosper, the people who make it want it to prosper (i hope), and the best way to do that is by feedback. If we treat every bad aspect of the game as inevitable and just toss it over the shoulder without a care then nothing winds up fixed, and the crap just starts to pile up. It has nothing to do with us being big kids or not (which, in what world is it un-grown up to have opinions that you vocalize) and all to do with wanting this game to improve itself. Being a indifferent lump of sand does nobody any favors. Feedback isn't helpful if it's based on exaggerations and ignorance. Kubrows aren't half as bad as the forum makes them out to be. I really don't understand the forum kubrow hate circle jerk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)D-onlinekilla-4D Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 (edited) On a lighter note, just thought I'd share a recent one I've bred, sorry if off topic slightly. How can you hate this? Edited May 17, 2015 by (PS4)D-onlinekilla-4D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otaiken Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 (edited) On a lighter note, just thought I'd share a recent one I've bred, sorry if off topic slightly. How can you hate this? That is quite the monstrosity you have there xD Does it eat three times as much? Edited May 17, 2015 by LocoWithGun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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