321agemo Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 So with 4 Ivaras that becomes along the lines of, (1-0.979^10)= 19% chance of one Vulpine Mask per run. That doesn't sound too bad, does it? 2.5% is getting ANY mod iirc. Getting a rare would be 0.06% if i remember correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelialFallen Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 1 hour and 15 minutes of trading to get the plat and buy the bundle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RahuHordika Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 One weapon gets unique idles. The rest all look the same. Consistency at its finest. The rapier has it's own category so yeah it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fakeBOSHI Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 I think people also completely forget about transmutation, I've had the stance since this afternoon thanks to spare gold mods and an excess of credits. I've been transmuting as well but no dice yet TT. I don't think transmutation is as satisfying as playing the game though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Kryptyk- Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 But did you immediately come to the forums to complain that it was mastery fodder after you got the stance? no... no I did not, because I wasn't going to be like everyone else and complain about something that I'm never going to use in the long run xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volinus7 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 (edited) I haven't played WF for quite a while after I maxed everything prior to Nezha at MR21. Now I just enjoy watching ppl get burned by newer updates and money grab in forum lol. Tip: Don't farm anything you want, just rotate around and play tsundere and you will get it. Edited January 14, 2016 by Volinus7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Kryptyk- Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 (edited) Are you refusing to buy it out of principle or because you're on PS4 and don't even have the freakin weapon XD rotfl *shots fired* you guys do realize that he doesn't need to actually receive the update to keep up with the updates, numbers, how the community feels, and even youtube videos to realize all this and stay informed? Or to ask a question to the community? Not to mention he didn't say anything about him *currently* refusing to buy it. The context for him was if he was going to buy it when he receives the update, just like literally everyone else, and considering all the angles before doing so, therefore being able to develop an opinion and ask the question. He did his research before getting himself into all this. That's more than what 75% of the community does. Edited January 14, 2016 by Firefly0037 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Yiazzy Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Yes, fairly certain you're talking about my comment. Can't be the same droprate as VS divided by 2, that makes no sense since there are now 5 rare mod drops from the Manic Bombard. 0.021% is if it drops from Drehkar Manics as someone said. It's 0.0125% from the Bombards. Made up figures to justify the complaints. I find it hilarious that everyone complains these days about the slightest hint of a grind. No-one complained about Chansey in Pokemon Silver/Gold way back when. Jus sayin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robotwars7 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 I'm just sitting here with a Fat grin on my face because I was on here when it was fresh out and knew that there'd be more posts like this. I said "give it 24 hours". I only had to wait about 7, so thanks I guess ;) but yes, I completely agree, there is no way in hell that this was done for any reason other than to pressure you into getting the bundle. they knew you wanted the Rapier Stance, so they did the most evil thing they could: give it to an enemy that only appears in single digits, on a single Node. so remind me, where is this "reduction in grind" supposed to be again? I'll get the bundle, but my Platinum pieces will be laced with a little salt. what puzzles me is.. did they REALLY think they would get away with this without people noticing and getting angry about it? if so, then they derped HARD. I'm not mad DE, I'm just disappointed. bad enough the blade itself needs both Argon AND Nitain to build, then they make the stance near unobtainable. I hope they learn from this and make future stances less ridiculous to grind for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Kryptyk- Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Made up figures to justify the complaints. I find it hilarious that everyone complains these days about the slightest hint of a grind. No-one complained about Chansey in Pokemon Silver/Gold way back when. Jus sayin. go to the wiki yourself, find the basic stats, and do the math as necessary. these numbers are already proven, and you can't say that they're made up to justify your own despair in a grind. [size=1]also, who cares about pokemon. this is warframe. wtf kind of comparison is this.[/size] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xubile Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 bet they gonna put this stance on baro just like vermistorm and tempo in a month or few Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloverdew Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 1. Drop chance is terrible! I will not buy this thing on the market! 2. Meh, this thing drops for me ten times in mission. I will not buy this thing on the market! Everytime in Warframe forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xubile Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 last time i tried to farm a rare stance, it ended up in baroware, this time i'll just wait till either it get cheap on trading or baro sells it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robotwars7 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 there isn't a number high enough.. it is kind of ridiculous, but I find the people white-knighting for this even more so. like, really? i would have expected EA or Activision to pull this kind of stunt, sure but not DE. thankfully I have enough to buy it when it comes to console, but it's the principle that irks me. this was a really stupid move on DE's part. i don't mind grinding, but an enemy that only appears on one node and has a 0.021% drop rate is absurd, it's almost sadistic. if this is how all future Melee stances are gonna be, I'd rather they just give us guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dat-Ash Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 I tolerate a lot of the S*** de throws at us, because WF is still a good f2p model and is just a good game with a somewhat caring dev team... But this... This is too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_Redwire Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 (edited) Except when we tell them they are accountable for their actions we get told off by moderators for "dev trashing" or "toxic conduct". What good is our feedback if it gets deleted by overzealous moderators? The moderators don't work for DE. So there's that. I'll be the first to stand behind a person or post that is critical of DE and unjustly taken down. ...except I've never seen such a post... ...nor have I ever personally had a post where I was critical of DE removed. (My guess being I was following forum policy - I think that's usually a pretty good strategy) So I really have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Also I forgot to mention, if you just wander right into the feedback forums, you might notice that there are literally hundreds of DE critical threads. Many of which you might also notice, have yet to be taken down for their slanderous language defacing our almighty DE overlords. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go report all of those threads to the mods immediately. Evil is afoot! Edited January 14, 2016 by DJ_Redwire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seb-ZA Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 No-one complained about Chansey in Pokemon Silver/Gold way back when. Jus sayin. Nobody cared. *runs away* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seb-ZA Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/594388-how-many-daysweeksmonthsyears-worth-of-grinding-do-you-think-it-will-take-for-you-to-get-the-vulpine-mask-stance-mod/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coatduck Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 -sigh- Do I really have explain basic math? Maybe I should just google a video for you... Okay so: The chance of getting a Vulpine Mask from a Manic Bombard is .021% Convert that percentage into odds so that we can work with it mathematically and you get 1 : .00021 You want to calculate the odds that you get a Vulpine Mask from one run of Titania, in which you have 10 chances at the drop table. Your equation to find the odds that you don't get it would be: (1-.00021)^10 0.99979^10 0.99790198338908830719866352427395 Then you simply subtract that from one, and you get odds of actually getting it 1:0.00209801661091169280133647572605, or round it to 1:0.0021 Which converted back into a percent equals .21% per run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robotwars7 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 ...and this is why I'm sceptical every time they release a new Melee weapon. DE are starting to head to the Dark Side, a realm populated by the likes of EA... don't do it guys! resist! inb4 someone inevitably says "ERMAHGERD THE CHINESE ARE BEHIND IT!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Kryptyk- Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 (edited) ...and this is why I'm sceptical every time they release a new Melee weapon. DE are starting to head to the Dark Side, a realm populated by the likes of EA... don't do it guys! resist! inb4 someone inevitably says "ERMAHGERD THE CHINESE ARE BEHIND IT!!" ERMAHGERD THE CHINESE ARE BEHIND IT!! Edited January 14, 2016 by Firefly0037 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macroeconomics Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Um it's a rare drop, yes, but i don't have to have everything instantly. Happy to wait till an event or Baro. Unless the rapier becomes the new meta melee then i'll probably buy it. But if it's not the greatest then i'll just level it without the stance and switch back to room raping orthos p. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)FunyFlyBoy Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 Because lord forbid a company that is trying to balance gaining a profit and pleasing consumers actually try to juggle both. From what I have seen they have given more freely than most F2P, and their grind ceiling isn't as ruthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gale47 Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 I'll skip buying it since I'm no rush. Plain and simple ~ Same here. It's an animation replacement so who cares. Melee weapons have plenty of mod space when you potato them. I'm not dying for a stance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatzeputt Posted January 14, 2016 Share Posted January 14, 2016 I think people also completely forget about transmutation, I've had the stance since this afternoon thanks to spare gold mods and an excess of credits. People completely forget that you can earn a living by wining the lottery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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