DementedParadox Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 (edited) I just got it mostly cause it looked fun, plus I already had High noon so I was set with a stance. So loaded into a Saturn exterminate to test this thing out and... It. Kicks. &#!. Now don't get me wrong, as far as blades go, Nikana prime, or war is the king. As a gun though, even though crit and status aren't worth mentioning, raw damage tears through nearly any mid tier enemies as far as I can tell, pair that with the usual gun blade characteristics (silent, infinite ammo, semi hit-scan shots, ect.) it's pretty great, all things considered. It also helps that its pretty much a point-for-point upgrade of the redeemer. I certainly don't think it's the best weapon out there, but I can say I was very pleasantly surprised. How bout you guys? What do you think? Edit: After reading all your responses ( Thanks by the way, I enjoy learning what everyone thinks :) ) but after looking back on what I said, and having some time to get to know the weapon and how it fits into my loadout, I thought I'd clarify that the way I use the Sarpa is for large groups of enemies. My primary is Paris prime, powerful but not good for speed or large groups. I was impressed by the Sarpa because don't get me wrong, I'm well aware it's accuracy is S#&$, but with High Noon, the lack of accuracy doesn't concern me. I simply use it for speed runs, mowing down all the competition on Hicieron in between extractors or simply fast tracking to the end of a deception or sabotage alert. And for that, I feel it does its job well. If i need sniping, I use my Paris Prime. Edited September 6, 2016 by DementedParadox Clarification Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemmo67 Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 still prefer old redeemer over the new shiny one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DementedParadox Posted August 25, 2016 Author Share Posted August 25, 2016 Just now, Hemmo67 said: still prefer old redeemer over the new shiny one I can respect that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LascarCapable Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 Just now, Hemmo67 said: still prefer old redeemer over the new shiny one Same thing, but Sarpa is definitely a decent alternative to the good old Redeemer. The only bad point though : Sarpa tends to have much more issues about hitting Targets at mid range suprisingly. The burst is pretty imprecise, making Redeemer more suited for longer ranged takedowns. Actually, I can even snipe with my darn Redeemer. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhundis Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 4 minutes ago, DementedParadox said: ...as far as blades go, Nikana prime, or war is the king. You obviously haven't gotten the Galantine Prime yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumamaster Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 I can attest to Galatine Prime being an absolute monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DementedParadox Posted August 25, 2016 Author Share Posted August 25, 2016 Just now, Rhundis said: You obviously haven't gotten the Galantine Prime yet. Oh, no. I've been meaning to to check it's stats, I'm assuming they're pretty good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BattledOne Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 Lol, Nikanas are one of the worst weapon types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evers Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 2 minutes ago, DementedParadox said: Oh, no. I've been meaning to to check it's stats, I'm assuming they're pretty good? Powercreep pure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhundis Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 Just now, DementedParadox said: Oh, no. I've been meaning to to check it's stats, I'm assuming they're pretty good? Statistics Mastery Level 13 Weapon Slot Melee Weapon Type Heavy Blade Utility Attack Speed 1.00 Normal Attacks Physical Damage 165.0 Impact 4.1 Puncture 4.1 Slash 156.8 Crit Chance 20.0% Crit Multiplier 2.0x Status Chance 20.0% Slide Attacks Physical Damage 330.0 Wall Attacks Physical Damage 330. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VKhaun Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 8 minutes ago, D20 said: Same thing, but Sarpa is definitely a decent alternative to the good old Redeemer. The only bad point though : Sarpa tends to have much more issues about hitting Targets at mid range suprisingly. The burst is pretty imprecise, making Redeemer more suited for longer ranged takedowns. Actually, I can even snipe with my darn Redeemer. :p ^ This. I like Sarpa better, but it can't replace redeemer when it can't hit the broad side of a barn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trichouette Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 10 minutes ago, D20 said: Same thing, but Sarpa is definitely a decent alternative to the good old Redeemer. Too bad I can't have sarpa's base combo on my redeemer. That stuff is cool and freaking powerful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LascarCapable Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 4 minutes ago, Trichouette said: Too bad I can't have sarpa's base combo on my redeemer. That stuff is cool and freaking powerful Are you talking about Bullet Dance ? That stance is heavily broken with Redeemer for some reason. I made a bug report thread in PC Beta Bugs general if you are interested. You will probably find it by checking my most recently posted threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trichouette Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 1 minute ago, D20 said: Are you talking about Bullet Dance ? That stance is heavily broken with Redeemer for some reason. I made a bug report thread in PC Beta Bugs general if you are interested. No I'm talking about the default sarpa's combo. The one that shoot twice > roll back > shoot > roll back > shoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DementedParadox Posted August 25, 2016 Author Share Posted August 25, 2016 7 minutes ago, Rhundis said: Statistics Mastery Level 13 Weapon Slot Melee Weapon Type Heavy Blade Utility Attack Speed 1.00 Normal Attacks Physical Damage 165.0 Impact 4.1 Puncture 4.1 Slash 156.8 Crit Chance 20.0% Crit Multiplier 2.0x Status Chance 20.0% Slide Attacks Physical Damage 330.0 Wall Attacks Physical Damage 330. Damn, power creep indeed. Well played galatine prime. *golf clap* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
direcyphre Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 The only thing that could make Sarpa better is dual Sarpas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaUrchins Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 Sarpa wins in fashion frame 'cos redeemer looks like an ugly old spade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeMonkey Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 Can't stand it. I've clearly been spoilt by the redeemer hitting everything and it's mother up to like 40m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakosta_Kai Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 13 minutes ago, direcyphre said: The only thing that could make Sarpa better is dual Sarpas. This... All day. While it's impossible not to compare it to the Redeemer, they feel so different I don't like to. Redeemer feels like an old western sawed-off shotgun with a blade attached whereas the Sarpa feels like one of the Uzi-like automatics from The Matrix or Equilibrium with a blade on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Dark-TailedFox Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 1 hour ago, BattledOne said: Lol, Nikanas are one of the worst weapon types. I'm not sure who told you that. But comparing a 1 handed weapon to a heavy blade is hardly fair. Also, Nikana prime has beautiful stats for a 1 handed sword (and better stances than the absolutely worthless Iron Phoenix) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valiant Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 (edited) 42 minutes ago, SeaUrchins said: Sarpa wins in fashion frame 'cos redeemer looks like an ugly old spade. Yeah... We kinda need more style. There's so much potential for great concepts. Edited August 25, 2016 by Naith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silence00 Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 1 hour ago, BattledOne said: Lol, Nikanas are one of the worst weapon types. lol, wut? I want whatever you are smoking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BattledOne Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 33 minutes ago, (PS4)Foxkid_8 said: I'm not sure who told you that. But comparing a 1 handed weapon to a heavy blade is hardly fair. Also, Nikana prime has beautiful stats for a 1 handed sword (and better stances than the absolutely worthless Iron Phoenix) What does it matter if the weapon is 2 handed 3 handed or you also wield a plank in the other hand? What defines weapons is - stats, combos and reach. Nikanas have stats on the higher side but all of the combos are pretty bad and have surprisingly short range. Single swords have crimson and Vengeful, which are quite nice actually but I don't rate them higher than Nikana anyway. Atm the best weapon types for reach and DPS with proper stances are Heavy Sword/Axe and Dual Sword/Axe types. Blade and whip and Orthos (other whips are trash) are the mid tier, hopelessly below the high tier but got out of trash due to reach. Everything else is trash tier, sure there's higher up trash tier where swords and nikanas reside, but being best of trash ain't clearing that smell of shame. Don't take this is an attack on yourself, bring up how one weapon type is better for you and somehow the machete gives you better results than a Galatine Prime. I did the numbers, ran simulations, tried to make Nikanas come into mid tier at least satisfy my fashion frame craving... In the end of day, most people spam bladestorm, so what does the weapon you use matter anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakosta_Kai Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 8 hours ago, Naith said: Yeah... We kinda need more style. There's so much potential for great concepts. I'm already asking for a Vasto styled Gunblade or one patterned after the Chiappa Rhino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unus Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Eugh, was working towards createing this pretty little number, but, ye say it's accuracy is scrap? Dem it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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