Atterax

[PlayStationOnexxxXIV]

Can someone Help me with a Build for U19 of this weapon? What mods should I Use? (I don't have primed Mods of Mele weapons)

[Phatose]

Body Count/Blood Rush crit build, with Maiming Strike if possible.

[TARINunit9]

2 minutes ago, Phatose said:

Body Count/Blood Rush crit build, with Maiming Strike if possible.

Does Maiming Strike lock the weapon's side attack crit to 90% (i.e. disables Blood Rush)? Or does it set the base slide crit to 90%?

[rapt0rman]

4 minutes ago, TARINunit9 said:

Does Maiming Strike lock the weapon's side attack crit to 90% (i.e. disables Blood Rush)? Or does it set the base slide crit to 90%?

It adds a flat 90% on top of the rest of your crit calculation.

[TrickshotMcGee]

10 minutes ago, TARINunit9 said:

does it set the base slide crit to 90%?

It actually adds a flat 90% crit, regardless of other crit stats. Just stacks on top of current crit chance.

 

My build is:

Blood Rush, Berserker, Drifting Contact, Primed Reach (normal reach works, but it's sad in comparison, and P Reach is cheap to buy), Pressure Point, Buzz Kill, Organ Shatter, and Weeping Wounds.

Scales up super well and Weeping wounds makes sure I can get some powerful bleed procs consistently, and it only gets stronger as enemies scale up. Of course you can swap out Weeping Wounds for Fury or True Steel. 

 

And if you don't have Maiming Strike, do not buy it. It does NOT add enough damage to your melee to warrant paying the ridiculous price it goes for in Trade.

Edited December 12, 2016 by TrickshotMcGee

[Xzorn]

This is the Bleed build I use for Atterax to deal with heavy armor.

You can go one step further and use Lasting Sting in place of Primed Reach if you want or Maiming Strike in place of True Steel. Haven't done the math on the new Relentless Combination mod but you need to be in it for the long run and if you loose your combo multiplier you're not gaining anything.

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[PlayStationOnexxxXIV]

Ty every one for the reply to mi post. 

Is this build good? https://goo.gl/aNlcMo

[THeMooN85]

https://goo.gl/T32mv1

SPIN2WIN build, redcrits all the time.

[Xzorn]

23 minutes ago, PlayStationOnexxxXIV said:

Ty every one for the reply to mi post. 

Is this build good? https://goo.gl/aNlcMo

 

Buzzkill does nothing for your Bleed damage which is the primary purpose of a pure physical build.

If you're not fighting high armored enemies you're better off just using elementals. Pure Toxic / Status Gas Vs Corpus or 90%x2 Corrosive Vs Infested.

[Coaa]

So many good mods on it that it's hard to decide. After lots of playing this is my all around best purpose one. Wish I could fit the new bleed proc combo counter mod on but I cant:

http://warframe-builder.com/Melee_Weapons/Builder/Atterax/t_30_000000004_226-0-0-239-6-0-313-8-0-360-4-0-488-2-0-625-7-0-637-3-0-640-5-0-733-1-0_226-4-733-4-488-4-637-4-360-6-640-2-239-4-625-4-313-4/en/4-0-65

You can use drifting in place of body count and if you really want drop zerker for a dmg / utility mod.

[Xzorn]

There's really no reason at all to use Buzz Kill. 

I dunno why people keep slotting it.

 

Atterax True Steel + Weeping (Best Bleed with Lasting Sting)

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Atterax + True Steel + Weeping
45 Damage (40.5 Slash, 90%), Crit 25% x3, Status 20%
Primed Pressure Point
45 * ( 1 + 1.65) = 119.25 @3x Combo = 357.75

True Steel + Blood Rush @3x Combo
[.25 * ( 1 + 0.6)] * (1 + (3 * 1.65)
0.4 * 5.95 = 2.38 = 238%
Organ Shatter
3.0 ( 1 + 1.9) = 5.7

Avg Base Damage per Hit 357.75 * [1 + (1 - 5.7) * 2.38)]
357.75 * 12.186 = 4,359.5415

Status
Weeping Wounds
0.20 * (1 + (3 * 0.45) = 0.47 = 47%
Proc Weight:
Slash 321.975 / 357.75 = 0.9 = 90%
Status Trigger = 0.47
Slash Trigger = 0.423
Avg Bleed Tick 4,359.5415 * 0.35 = 1,525.83953
Avg Bleed per Proc = 10,680.88
Avg Bleed per Hit = 10,680.88 * 0.423 = 4,518.012
Avg Bleed per Hit + Lasting = 4,518.012 * 2.1 = 9,487.8252

Estimated Avg Damage per Hit = 4,359.5415 + 4,518.012 = 8,877.554
Estimated Avg Damage Vs. C.Flesh = (4,359.5415 * 1.225) + 4,518.012
5,340.43834 + 4,518.012 = 9,858.45
Estimated Avg Damage Vs. C.Flesh + Lasting 5,340.43834 + 9,487.8252 = 14,828.264

Atterax 90%x2  (Best Damage per Hit)

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Atterac + 90%x2
45 Damage (40.5 Slash, 90%), Crit 25% x3, Status 20%
Primed Pressure Point
45 * ( 1 + 1.65) = 119.25 @3x Combo = 357.75

Elemental
357.75 * 1.8 = 643.95

Blood Rush @3x Combo
[.25 * (1 + (3 * 1.65)
0.25 * 5.95 = 1.4875 = 148.75%
Organ Shatter
3.0 ( 1 + 1.9) = 5.7

Avg Base Damage per Hit (357.75 + 643.95) * [1 + (1 - 5.7) * 1.4875)]
(357.75 + 643.95) * 7.99125 = 2,858.87 + 5,145.97 = 8,004.84

Proc Weight:
Slash 1287.9 / 2074.95 = 0.6207 = 62.07%
Elemental 643.95 / 2074.95 = 0.3104 = 31.04%
Status Trigger = 0.25
Slash Trigger = 0.1552
Elemental Trigger = 0.0776
Avg Bleed Tick 2,858.87 * 0.35 = 1,000.605
Avg Bleed per Proc = 7,004.2315
Avg Bleed per Hit = 7,004.2315 * 0.1552 = 1,087.057

Estimated Damage Avg Damage per Hit = 8,004.84 + 1,087.057 = 9,091.897
Estimated Avg Damage Vs. C.Flesh = (2858.87 * 1.225) + (5,145.97 * 1.75) + 1,087.057
3,502.11575 + 9,005.4475 + 1,087.057 = 13,594.62

Atterax 60/60x2 (Best Bleed Without Lasting Sting using Viral)

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Atterax + 60/60x2
45 Damage (40.5 Slash, 90%), Crit 25% x3, Status 20%
Primed Pressure Point
45 * ( 1 + 1.65) = 119.25 @3x Combo = 357.75

Elemental
357.75 * 1.2 = 429.3

Blood Rush @3x Combo
[.25 * (1 + (3 * 1.65)
0.25 * 5.95 = 1.4875 = 148.75%
Organ Shatter
3.0 ( 1 + 1.9) = 5.7

Avg Base Damage per Hit (357.75 + 429.3) * [1 + (1 - 5.7) * 1.4875)]
(357.75 + 439.3) * 7.99125 = 2,858.87 + 3,510.556125 = 6,369.43
Proc Weight:
Slash 1287.9 / 1860.3 = 0.69308 = 69.308%
Elemental 429.3 / 1860.3 = 0.2308 = 23.08%
Status Trigger = 0.55
Slash Trigger = 0.381194
Elemental Trigger = 0.12694
Avg Bleed Tick 2,858.87 * 0.35 = 1,000.605
Avg Bleed per Proc = 7,004.2315
Avg Bleed per Hit = 7,004.2315 * 0.381194 = 2,669.97

Effective Bleed w/ Viral proc 2,669.97 * 2 = 5,335.94

Estimated Damage Avg Damage per Hit = 6,369.43 + 2,669.97 = 9,039.4
Estimated Avg Damage Vs. C.Flesh = (2858.87 * 1.225) + (3,510.56 * 1.75) + 2,669.97
3,502.11575 + 6,143.48 + 2,669.97 = 12,314.566

Atterax Buzz Kill + Weeping (Best Nothing)

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Atterax + Buzz Kill + Weeping
45 Damage (40.5 Slash, 90%), Crit 25% x3, Status 20%
Primed Pressure Point
45 * ( 1 + 1.65) = 119.25 @3x Combo = 357.75 (321.975 Slash)

Buzz Kill
321.975 * 1.2 = 386.37

Blood Rush @3x Combo
[.25 * (1 + (3 * 1.65)
0.25 * 5.95 = 1.4875 = 148.75%
Organ Shatter
3.0 ( 1 + 1.9) = 5.7

Avg Base Damage per Hit (357.75 + 386.37) * [1 + (1 - 5.7) * 1.4875)]
(357.75 + 386.37) * 7.99125 = 2,858.87 + 3,087.579 = 5,946.45

Status
Weeping Wounds
0.20 * (1 + (3 * 0.45) = 0.47 = 47%
Proc Weight:
Slash 708.345 / 744.12 = 0.9519 = 95.19%
Status Trigger = 0.47
Slash Trigger = 0.4474
Elemental Trigger = 0.0776
Avg Bleed Tick 2,858.87 * 0.35 = 1,000.605
Avg Bleed per Proc = 7,004.2315
Avg Bleed per Hit = 7,004.2315 * 0.4474 = 3,133.72

Estimated Avg Damage per Hit = 5,946.45 + 3,133.72 = 9,080.17
Estimated Avg Damage Vs. C.Flesh = (5,946.45 * 1.225) + 3,133.72
7,284.4 + 3,133.72 = 10,418.121

 

[TrickshotMcGee]

7 minutes ago, Xzorn said:

There's really no reason at all to use Buzz Kill. 

I dunno why people keep slotting it.

Doesn't help with bleed damage, I know, but it does affect total damage output, as well as the proportion of bleed procs instead of puncture or impact. 

Honestly, it helps more with consistency of damage than adding damage itself. 

Edited December 12, 2016 by TrickshotMcGee