NotRealButReal Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 If he gets something for Health or Energy, game over. I really doubt any prime would compete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeclem Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 (edited) sooo he needs an augment so he can be even more broken than he already is? edit:idk how i didnt see through this sarcasm. i need my coffee. Edited March 8, 2017 by Zeclem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotRealButReal Posted March 8, 2017 Author Share Posted March 8, 2017 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Zeclem said: sooo he needs an augment so he can be even more broken than he already is? Yeah, it's not like the game is going anywhere anyways. That was a joke, DE. Edited March 8, 2017 by NotRealButReal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aligatorno Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, Zeclem said: sooo he needs an augment so he can be even more broken than he already is? How exactly is he broken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Grimsley Clause Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Doesn't he have a Sandstorm Augment already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalvorax Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 2 minutes ago, (Xbox One)ALG Minuscule36 said: Doesn't he have a Sandstorm Augment already? yeah, but is all he has....Ivara is the same, with only one augment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeclem Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 1 minute ago, aligatorno said: How exactly is he broken? idk, THE tankiest frame that also deals crapton of damage with covert lethality, has very powerful cc and has amazingly broken self heal coupled with heals for his group and doesnt even get hurt by nullifiers all that much. he is very much broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Grimsley Clause Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Just now, xcynderx said: yeah, but is all he has....Ivara is the same, with only one augment And Nezha? Inaros will, like everybody else, get all 4 augments, lIke Banshee, Nekros, etc... When, I have no idea, but it will happen. You realize Augments are slowly but surely being added over time, right? There's a process for it, and it can't be rushed. I can safely say that. Inaros is already quite powerful, he'll be fine until his other augments come out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aligatorno Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Zeclem said: idk, THE tankiest frame that also deals crapton of damage with covert lethality, has very powerful cc and has amazingly broken self heal coupled with heals for his group and doesnt even get hurt by nullifiers all that much. he is very much broken. So efficient / well designed = broken now? 1. Every frame that can blind or open enemies to finishers does a crapton of damage with finishers . 2. Indeed, his CC is good, but far from the best in the game. 3. Self healing is his gimmick, considering he has no shields, he needs it 4. All his abilities get turned off immediately by Nullies, including his Scarab Armor, unlike Nidus who loses his stacks over time. He's affected by nullies just as much as everyone else. Edited March 8, 2017 by aligatorno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeclem Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 (edited) 23 minutes ago, aligatorno said: So efficient / well designed = broken now? 1. Every frame that can blind or open enemies to finishers does a crapton of damage with finishers . 2. Indeed, his CC is good, but far from the best in the game. 3. Self healing is his gimmick, considering he has no shields, he needs it 4. All his abilities get turned off immediately by Nullies, including his Scarab Armor, unlike Nidus who loses his stacks over time. He's affected by nullies just as much as everyone else. yeah his self heal would be a gimmick if he didnt had ridicilous high health and a passive that gives even more self heal from using finishers or the amount it healed wasnt so ridicilous. yeah except he doesnt loses nearly as much like other frames excluding nidus, but nidus doesnt have his kind of self heal nor cc nor tankiness. all frames are efficient when sued correctly. with inaros you dont even have to think while playing. and no other frames with built in finishers have his kind of tankyness as well. Edited March 8, 2017 by Zeclem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kuestenjung Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 3 minutes ago, Zeclem said: yeah his self heal would be a gimmick if he didnt had ridicilous high health and a passive that gives even more self heal from using finishers or the amount it healed wasnt so ridicilous. yeah except he doesnt loses nearly as much like other frames excluding nidus, but nidus doesnt have his kind of self heal nor cc nor tankiness. all frames are efficient when sued correctly. with inaros you dont even have to think while playing. That is where you lost all credibility, not that you had any with your Inaros bash. Play Ianros with damage dealing frames in your squad and you won´t benefit from any of his ablities. And you obviously never used parasitic link on an enemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aligatorno Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Zeclem said: yeah his self heal would be a gimmick if he didnt had ridicilous high health and a passive that gives even more self heal from using finishers or the amount it healed wasnt so ridicilous. yeah except he doesnt loses nearly as much like other frames excluding nidus, but nidus doesnt have his kind of self heal nor cc nor tankiness. all frames are efficient when sued correctly. with inaros you dont even have to think while playing. 1. He has a high health because his health regen is situational not continuous, meaning that unless he uses his powers, he's not getting any. 2. Nidus is a great tank, cc, healing and damage frame on his own. With a good amount of stacks and a Parasitic Link Activated, He's almost as tanky as Nidus. He can CC enemies pretty well with a range build, and kill everything up to a point with one button press once you get him going. Also, his healing is continuous, which is why he also has a lower healthpool than Inaros, adding his 4 on top of that and he and his team are back at max health in no time. 3. He ,just like any other frames is affected in equal measure by the nullies. The fact that he's tanky on his own, it's another thing. Edited March 8, 2017 by aligatorno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeclem Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 1 minute ago, aligatorno said: 1. He has a high health because his health regen is situational not continuous. 2. Nidus a great tank, cc, healing and damage frames on his own. With a good amount of stacks and a Parasitic Link Activated, He's almost as tanky as Nidus. He can CC enemies pretty well with a range build, and kill everything up to a point with one button press once you get him going. Also, his healing is continuous, which is why he also has a lower healthpool than Inaros, adding his 4 on top of that and he and his team are back at max health in no time. 3. He ,just like any other frames is affected in equal measure by the nullies. The fact that he's tanky on his own, it's another thing. 1-um, no. since that doesnt stop him from abusing his two and one from getting health back just the same. and there isnt that many frames that have continuous health regen anyway. 2-i never said nidus wasnt a great frame. and he still doesnt compare to inaros. and his healing, while pretty strong, is a joke compared to inaros's self sustain. 3-its not another thing. nearly all other tanks get hurt by nullies trendemously. him and nidus arent hurt nearly as much as the rest. 2 minutes ago, Kuestenjung said: That is where you lost all credibility, not that you had any with your Inaros bash. Play Ianros with damage dealing frames in your squad and you won´t benefit from any of his ablities. And you obviously never used parasitic link on an enemy. um im sorry but how can damage dealing frames can prevent you from spamming finishers with your 1? and idc about my credibility in the forums since theres no such a thing as that credibility in here cus theres so many different opinions over most things. if anything, by saying that nidus's healing is comparable to inaros's you lost YOUR credibility. and while parasitic link is strong it doesnt make you damage immune, and it gets shrekt by nullies where inaros is still tanky as hell and back without his abilities unlike any other frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zepp_ Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 (edited) On 3/8/2017 at 7:18 AM, NotRealButReal said: I don't know. Edited March 11, 2017 by Zepp_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXx_mtv_xXx Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 1 hour ago, (Xbox One)ALG Minuscule36 said: Doesn't he have a Sandstorm Augment already? Yes and it's a bit of a joke lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)ultimategamerjr Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Zeclem said: idk, THE tankiest frame that also deals crapton of damage with covert lethality, has very powerful cc and has amazingly broken self heal coupled with heals for his group and doesnt even get hurt by nullifiers all that much. he is very much broken. He isn't the most tanky, Wukong, Nidus, and Valkyr are all more tanky than Inaros. Inaros is a great tank, just isn't the most tanky out of all the frames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeclem Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 1 minute ago, (Xbox One)ultimategamerjr said: He isn't the most tanky, Wukong, Nidus, and Valkyr are all more tanky than Inaros. Inaros is a great tank, just isn't the most tanky out of all the frames im not even gonna explain how this is wrong. sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)ultimategamerjr Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Just now, Zeclem said: im not even gonna explain how this is wrong. sorry. Valkyr is invincible, Wukong is invincible, Nidus can take any number of damage and just lose 10 stacks, but Inaros can be one shot at high levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aligatorno Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, (Xbox One)ultimategamerjr said: He isn't the most tanky, Wukong, Nidus, and Valkyr are all more tanky than Inaros. Inaros is a great tank, just isn't the most tanky out of all the frames If we include Hysteria and Defy, then yes, Wukong and Valkyr are above Inaros as is Nyx. If we are talking about pure Tankiness, EHP and all that, Chroma and Inaros are neck in neck together at the top, Followed by Nidus, Valkyr, Mesa, Rhino and Nekros. Edited March 8, 2017 by aligatorno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)ultimategamerjr Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 1 minute ago, aligatorno said: If we include Hysteria and Defy, then yes, Wukong and Valkyr are above Inaros as is Nyx. If we are talking about pure Tankiness, Chroma and Inaros are neck in neck together at the top, Followed by Nidus, Valkyr, Mesa. If we don't include hysteria or defy or nyx's augment, then nidus is still better because he literally can't die no matter how much damage he takes if he has stacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aligatorno Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Just now, (Xbox One)ultimategamerjr said: If we don't include hysteria or defy or nyx's augment, then nidus is still better because he literally can't die no matter how much damage he takes if he has stacks. If indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sloan441 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 I don't think Inaros needs much of anything. Some extra flavor from augments would be one thing, but he isn't exactly lacking in any particular. 8 minutes ago, (Xbox One)ultimategamerjr said: Valkyr is invincible, Wukong is invincible, Nidus can take any number of damage and just lose 10 stacks, but Inaros can be one shot at high levels. Everything that isn't totally ignoring damage can potentially be one shot. This isn't really an issue since there's no normal reason to fight enemies of such a level. It's a stunt and you enter that particular scenario at your own risk (and a pre-formed team built around both synergy and hiding in boltholes). Nevertheless, Valkyr has energy management issues. If you're not playing her, you'll never see this particular struggle and there are ways to deal with it, but it's not just press 4 and cruise to victory anymore. I can't comment much on Wukong since I barely play him, but I see enough of them faceplant to imagine there's something similar going on there as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)HaterReplicator Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 (edited) Intros is really good. I wouldn't say he is broken though. The only broken Frame, IMO, is the demi-GOD Excalibur build. Naramon, Shadow Step, Deadly Intent, Radiant Finish, Covert Lethality , Life Strike. If you don't believe it try it. Laugh in the face of any and everything while you destroy. Edited March 8, 2017 by (PS4)HaterReplicator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenshockclaw Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 1 hour ago, Zeclem said: um im sorry but how can damage dealing frames can prevent you from spamming finishers with your 1? Can't perform finishers if there's nothing to finish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenshockclaw Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 54 minutes ago, Zeclem said: im not even gonna explain how this is wrong. sorry. You clearly don't play inaros Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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