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Defection questions. What works and what doesn't?


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I'd like to confirm a few things i've seen/read regarding defectors.

  • Does Sprint Boost Aura mod increase their movement speed?
  • Does Volt's Speed increase their movement speed?
  • Does Zephyr's Jet Stream Augment Mod work on them?
  • Does any movement speed increasing ability work on them?
  • Does Oberon's Phoenix Renewal Augment Mod work on them?
  • Does Trinity's Blessing heal work on all of them in the map despite distance?
  • Does the Ancient Healer heal them?
  • Do pizzas heal them? 
  • What abilities and buffs do you know do work on them?
  • Does Limbo's banish increase damage per second on the defectors? (otherwise its too convenient i guess)

Did ten C rotations yesterday with no luck on Harrow Systems so i'm min/maxing it to get ready for a heavy weekend grind. Need to pick the best frame for the job. Currently at work so I cannot confirm any of this but that didn't stop me from thinking about it. 

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Trinity heal works.. thats about all ive tested..

Did 3 ev/short bless build trins and 1 ember for harrow systems on yursa..

Thought maybe their was a system to it like nidius farm and keeping the injectors full

kept all med stations at 80%-100%

Did 1 trin C to A.. 1 trin B to A.. when B and C both met a A the third trin and ember to extract.. seemed to be the fastest way

Got the harrow systems around 12th squad.. 0 members killed

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Grimmstyler said:

Trinity heal works.. thats about all ive tested..

Did 3 ev/short bless build trins and 1 ember for harrow systems on yursa..

Thought maybe their was a system to it like nidius farm and keeping the injectors full

kept all med stations at 80%-100%

Did 1 trin C to A.. 1 trin B to A.. when B and C both met a A the third trin and ember to extract.. seemed to be the fastest way

Got the harrow systems around 12th squad.. 0 members killed

 

 

I know Trinity's heal works but i've read in the forums that it only works within affinity range and not limitless as the ability describes. I suppose this would explain why your party had 3 trinitys instead of just 1 for the blessing. 

 

15 minutes ago, redeyedtreefrog said:

I can confirm that both limbo's haven and oberon's renewal affect them.

Cool so limbo is a good option then. Finally, a non trolling use for limbo, intentional or otherwise. 

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1 hour ago, babywrath said:

I know Trinity's heal works but i've read in the forums that it only works within affinity range and not limitless as the ability describes. I suppose this would explain why your party had 3 trinitys instead of just 1 for the blessing. 

That was strictly for the theory of med stations staying powered at 80%+ to improve drop chance of harrow systems.. like keeping injectors at 95%+ for a better drop chance of nidius parts

My trin has max range.. i cant confirm.. but it seemed like i blessed kavor members from a distance within my trins range limit

i dunno about the limitless blessings.. 

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Actually blessings are limitless.. i was able to keep med stations above 80% with 4 kavor members and a toxic ancient at the med station 0.o

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Nezha's Safeguard augment works on them.  As long as the escorting frames do their work and kill enemies around them, the Kavor are pretty much unkillable. Those rings can suck up a good amount of collateral damage. I never had to recast a ring on a Kavor by the time they reach extraction.

While Limbo can also make them unkillable, Nezha's second ability Blazing Chakram does heal them as well. Saves you time by not having to wait at those regeneration stations.

Basically, Nezha's got healing + protection covered, all in one.

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8 hours ago, babywrath said:

I know Trinity's heal works but i've read in the forums that it only works within affinity range and not limitless as the ability describes. I suppose this would explain why your party had 3 trinitys instead of just 1 for the blessing. 

7 hours ago, Grimmstyler said:

Actually blessings are limitless.. i was able to keep med stations above 80% with 4 kavor members and a toxic ancient at the med station 0.o

It's been a LOOOONG time since DE nerfed trinity's blessing. It now has "affinity range" instead of a limitless range.

It's 50m, unless if you have the vazarin focus passive that slightly increase affinity range.

I'm not sure whether trinity can bless the kavors from a limitless range but I doubt it.

 

In my opinion the best way to go is still 2 trinity EV and 2 vauban bastille, this way enemies are useless and it's basically a walk in the park with a bit of blessing from time to time. You don't even need to refill the healing stations.

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There's a lot of ways to do it and there's a lot of easier ways to do it.

I successfully Did the run with a team of 3 Forma'd Oberons to the tune of 40 waves. The 4th guy was irrelevant in the scenario, think he was a Volt or whatever, didn't care just told him to bring whatever he wanted.

The Oberons require QuickThinking, Rage, and Vitality. Along side a Very efficient negative Range renewal build. Phoenix Renewal the augment card is not required but it could help?

1 Oberon at both C and B. They release the team, run to them, cast renewal / hallowed ground on them than send them on their way. After that basically sit in a corner and get punched a lot. They essentially give you unlimited Energy as Rage is constantly converting your health into energy creating a surplus. As that Oberon, Once in a while you have to kill a Parasitic Eximus to stop them from draining some of your energy. Rinse Repeat. Oberon at A just has to stay alive and force the group to move. He doesn't have to follow them or anything. Just stay alive at A.

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Good setup is two Frosts and two Trinities. Frosts are built for Avalanche. Max range, some duration and efficiency and no strength. Trinities use Blessing and EV. I can't rememeber exact numbers but you want around 30% str and some duration and range so you can EV to replenish Frosts' energy while having max DR aon Blessing.

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