Pauluce Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Just an example of an MR19 that spent the whole bounty fishing and mining.. : https://imgur.com/a/nA3wJ I mean DE, do something about that.. Like if the player is not in the area when the mission is done in a bounty don't give them the rep and the standing or let people vote-kick someone. This is getting really annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tellakey Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 I'm up for vote-kick, the other option may cause new issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vylexes Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 I absolutely agree we could use a Vote to kick function, i am tried of people afk'ing in my groups as well. and don't tell me to just solo because that is getting so old, you play in a game with ton of people both the good and the bad i agree but when you have those afk players or players that just don't wanna do a dame thing they deserve the kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cortanis Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 9 hours ago, Tellakey said: I'm up for vote-kick, the other option may cause new issues. We've been asking for this for years. It's not going to happen. If I remember correctly, they've said as much on the couch a few times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-TSA-raku Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 report him. hope u have screenshots with a timestamp where he also says he will not join ur or help the squad to do the mission. send everything with text and uplaod the screenshots. thats what i do. player dont wanna join and help the mission and is leeching. just report them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelChikage Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 How to avoid kicking abuse by a pre-formed 3-men group which is commonly seen in multiplayer games. I prefer a good system to log and report for bad behaviors but I doubt if DE team have enough resource to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justchad Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 I hope this wasn't me, but it very well could have been, as I did pull a newb and entered to go fishing and was unaware (at the time) there there even was an option to enter solo :( I actually thought it was more of an open environment type deal, and that every one was in competition for resources a la WoW. If this was me I apologize and if it makes you feel any better I'm pretty I also just exited the mission buy hitting esc. >.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogManDan Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 14 hours ago, Pauluce said: Just an example of an MR19 that spent the whole bounty fishing and mining.. : https://imgur.com/a/nA3wJ I mean DE, do something about that.. Like if the player is not in the area when the mission is done in a bounty don't give them the rep and the standing or let people vote-kick someone. This is getting really annoying. Were you in a random PUBLIC game? If you were than you have no right to come here and complain about someone not participating in what you wanted them too! It is also my understanding from other conversations of the same nature that if a person is not within range of the bounty mission they do not get the credit/rep/standing from it as others have stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncaIroh Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 they do get loot and standing at the moment. They're proposing to force you to be a certain distance from the objective when it gets completed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncaIroh Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 10 minutes ago, DogManDan said: Were you in a random PUBLIC game? If you were than you have no right to come here and complain about someone not participating in what you wanted them too! It is also my understanding from other conversations of the same nature that if a person is not within range of the bounty mission they do not get the credit/rep/standing from it as others have stated. I'm wish you can't get forced into a bounty if you didn't talk to konzu. From a few (undocumented) reports, it is possible for someone to join your game and force you into a bounty even if you didn't queue for it. That's a fault of matchmaking, not the player. Unless that's been fixed and any leech you encounter now is 100% queued for the bounty and ignoring it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezekeel666 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 hour ago, DogManDan said: Were you in a random PUBLIC game? If you were than you have no right to come here and complain about someone not participating in what you wanted them too! Because the TOS or CoC is not valid in public games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryunokage Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 I'm ambivalent about leeching, while i'm happy to play the game and contribute to matches. I routinely slip away to fish or mine when a limbo, ember or mesa joins in the game half way through. I honestly don't see any benefit to even trying in those circumstances, since those frames by design prevent other players from actively participating in a game where their more exploitative abilities are employed. I'm all for a votekick option, or better yet, a function that allows a host to kick other players which might not require a group vote. Though i'd likely use it to kick off leechers as much as I would to keep the aforementioned player from ruining my game experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)ultimategamerjr Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 To be fair DE has given people incentive to not do the bounty.... When you are just load in to plains you get 1 iradite per formation, but as soon as you load up the tier 5 bounty you can get 3, 5, or 10 from one formation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-_Highlander_- Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Iam realy against this Vote Kick this function can be abused by this community What if i met you in -game with 2 of my other friends that i know .. telling them to kick you out .. the reason .. no body knows just because ... you see this is an problem bigger than leechers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallen_Echo Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 3 hours ago, Ezekeel666 said: Because the TOS or CoC is not valid in public games? Where in the TOS or CoC it says that once you pick up a bounty you are obligated to do it in that instant as fast as you get throught the gate and you get in a team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vylexes Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 3 hours ago, Fallen_Echo said: Where in the TOS or CoC it says that once you pick up a bounty you are obligated to do it in that instant as fast as you get throught the gate and you get in a team? You didn't know that taking advantage of players knowingly is against the TOS? Iam realy against this Vote Kick this function can be abused by this community Realy? are you sure that it would be abused more then leechers are doing right now are you sure? My goodness you can see the feature and it is quite bleak isn't it. Come on any system can be abused just like leechers are doing atm just by going into a bounty knowingly not talking partaking or helping in any shape way or form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VadiseReikaz Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 As I mentioned many times in similar posts. What would stop players voting to kick others that they simply do not like? If I bring banshee and you wanted a trinity, does that mean that it is fine to kick me because you dont like my choice? if I dont spam 4, and you wanted me to spam 4, is it ok to vote to kick me? And a long list of etcs. Sure it would be a bandaid solution to some instances of leeching, but it would bring another set of problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VadiseReikaz Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 minute ago, (Xbox One)Cubic Clem said: It's really sad to see how toxic the community became since the launch of the Plains.. I'm against vote kick too because it WILL be abused by almost everyone, just like the 'leave squad' hosts that constantly pound every other group member. You WILL be kicked as soon as you're not the typical 'youtube' inspired player with the 'youtube' specific BFG's.. so no thanks.. The only thing necessary is an IN-GAME (yes, from DE not steam/Xbox/whatever) report section for unsporting behavior, with serious consequences IF you get a ton of reports.. I dont know about the serious consequences, but make it so matchmaking will make them play with others that also got in the same situation should help. If they like that play style, may as well let them enjoy it with others that do as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sintag Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Votekick would get abused to all holy hell. Look at PAYDAY 2 for an example, where I can be given the boot simply because the host doesn't like the fact I play as John Wick. Now replace 'PAYDAY 2' with 'Warframe', and 'John Wick' with 'Not Mesa, Ember, Frost, Limbo, Trinity, Nova, Excalibur, or Gara' and there we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauluce Posted December 4, 2017 Author Share Posted December 4, 2017 I agree that votekick might a bad idea. What I don't agree with is the fact that if you queue for a bounty, even on public then you souhld NOT ignore it, then you're leeching, you know it and you're doing it on PORPUSE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallen_Echo Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 1 hour ago, vylexes said: You didn't know that taking advantage of players knowingly is against the TOS? Thats so vague it cant be used up here. Picking up a bounty forces no one to actually do it and im not exactly sure but trying to force people to do as you want arent against one of the rules too? 1 hour ago, vylexes said: Iam realy against this Vote Kick this function can be abused by this community Realy? are you sure that it would be abused more then leechers are doing right now are you sure? My goodness you can see the feature and it is quite bleak isn't it. Come on any system can be abused just like leechers are doing atm just by going into a bounty knowingly not talking partaking or helping in any shape way or form. Did you forget to quote/tag people here? This paragraph doesnt really make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Stealth_Cobra Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) What's the point of an open world if you're not free to do what you want in said open world ? Join private groups with friends if you want everyone to do the bounties and hate people doing something else... But if you do random matchmaking, don't get pissed if one or two people wander off every now and then to farm rocks or fish a couple fishes. You don't need 4 players to complete these bounties anyways... And it's actually a smart tactic to pair up with friends with different goals to get things done faster. Like , often, when I mine or fish, I usually join a friend that does bounties so it's two birds one stone, and vice versa when he has to fish or mine. We also did bounty / eidolon groups a couple of time where two people do the bounties while the other two weaken and hopefully capture the eidolon... That's smart matchmaking and strategic time investment imho. Having four people facepalming a LVL 1 bounty serves no purpose, especially when all rewards asides from Gara parts are useless. I'm 100 percent ok with all three other players mining and fishing these missions. Why waste four people's time when a single person can do the task and the others are free to do something else. In the end, at this point we all did these bounties a gazillion times solo , so I'm absolutely fine with people that want the rep but prefer to farm something else. Edited December 4, 2017 by (PS4)Stealth_Cobra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-_Highlander_- Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 2 hours ago, Fallen_Echo said: Thats so vague it cant be used up here. Picking up a bounty forces no one to actually do it and im not exactly sure but trying to force people to do as you want arent against one of the rules too? Did you forget to quote/tag people here? This paragraph doesnt really make sense. Yeah Fallen_Echo I know But this is the original content Iam realy against this Vote Kick this function can be abused by this community What if i met you in -game with 2 of my other friends that i know .. telling them to kick you out .. the reason .. no body knows just because ... you see this is an problem bigger than leechers ------ And this where made by me early today ------ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-_Highlander_- Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Seems it doesn't matter what you trying to tell .. People are to naief and take only what they wanna see .. Well here's some bad news for those that are only willing to see the fairytail There aint dodging around the truth when it comes out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelChikage Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 2 hours ago, (PS4)Stealth_Cobra said: What's the point of an open world if you're not free to do what you want in said open world ? Join private groups with friends if you want everyone to do the bounties and hate people doing something else... But if you do random matchmaking, don't get pissed if one or two people wander off every now and then to farm rocks or fish a couple fishes. You don't need 4 players to complete these bounties anyways... And it's actually a smart tactic to pair up with friends with different goals to get things done faster. Like , often, when I mine or fish, I usually join a friend that does bounties so it's two birds one stone, and vice versa when he has to fish or mine. We also did bounty / eidolon groups a couple of time where two people do the bounties while the other two weaken and hopefully capture the eidolon... That's smart matchmaking and strategic time investment imho. Having four people facepalming a LVL 1 bounty serves no purpose, especially when all rewards asides from Gara parts are useless. I'm 100 percent ok with all three other players mining and fishing these missions. Why waste four people's time when a single person can do the task and the others are free to do something else. In the end, at this point we all did these bounties a gazillion times solo , so I'm absolutely fine with people that want the rep but prefer to farm something else. Yes, it doesn't need full 4 people to clean all bounties. But...would you mind giving me some of your grindings for exchange? Like Sentirum, Nyth, or Glappid? Do it in your private games instead of public games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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