(XBOX)SweatyPick3L Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 (edited) The holidays are well over, so can we please change what's getting unvaulted. This will be the 3rd time in a row Frost has been unvaulted around this time. Can we not. Lets unvault Loki, Nyx and Volt Prime with the following accessories instead: Misa Prime Sydana, Pyra Prime Sydana, Targis Prime Armor, Edo Prime Armor. Thank you. Edited January 10, 2018 by (XB1)RDeschain82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegarick Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Pretty sure everybody has different Prime frames they want unvaulted. I doubt it'll be changed to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, (Xbox One)RDeschain82 said: Misa Prime Sydana, Pyra Prime Sydana, Targis Prime Armor, Edo Prime Armor. Too much Warframe attachment, i need Sentinel Accesories Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragingwasabi Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 7 minutes ago, (Xbox One)RDeschain82 said: The holidays are well over, so can we please change what's getting unvaulted. This will be the 3rd time in a row Frost has been unvaulted around this time. Can we not. Lets unvault Loki, Nyx and Volt Prime with the following accessories instead: Misa Prime Sydana, Pyra Prime Sydana, Targis Prime Armor, Edo Prime Armor. Thank you. how do u know who they are unvaulting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Percy Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 Targis just came in the summer. It wont come again for at least 7-8 more months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)SweatyPick3L Posted January 9, 2018 Author Share Posted January 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Percy said: Targis just came in the summer. It wont come again for at least 7-8 more months. Hope your right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misgenesis Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 I hate that we are just okay with vaulting now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snib Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 15 minutes ago, Misgenesis said: I hate that we are just okay with vaulting now It's a money-maker for DE, that's also why they'll keep milking the Frost/Ember vault while it remains to popular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)SweatyPick3L Posted January 10, 2018 Author Share Posted January 10, 2018 3 hours ago, .-_-. said: Too much Warframe attachment, i need Sentinel Accesories Also Wyrm Prime and Carrier Prime accessory bits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loswaith Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Snib said: It's a money-maker for DE, that's also why they'll keep milking the Frost/Ember vault while it remains to popular. Well DE would likely make more money if they didn't vault stuff and left all previous Prime Access available so players could choose one they want, rather than one they may not want only being available. By not having them always available means players learn to wait for them or trade plat for parts, neither of which DE really make anything additional on as traded plat once bought can be shuffled around time and time again and DE gain nothing more from that plat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0VR0B0R0S Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 DE. Just. Literally. Dont. Know... How much ppl will buy if they unvault the legendary Edo Prime. Wake up DE, u want money? Unvault it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)SweatyPick3L Posted January 10, 2018 Author Share Posted January 10, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Misgenesis said: I hate that we are just okay with vaulting now I hate it too. Edited January 10, 2018 by (XB1)RDeschain82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)SweatyPick3L Posted January 10, 2018 Author Share Posted January 10, 2018 (edited) I'm hoping this unvaulted vaulting nonsense gets looked at. I've always been a strong advocate of leaving Prime Warframes always available for purchase. I mean vault the relics leave the Frame for sale. Edited January 10, 2018 by (XB1)RDeschain82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPrime Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 (edited) 26 minutes ago, (Xbox One)RDeschain82 said: I'm hoping this unvaulted vaulting nonsense gets looked at. I've always been a strong advocate of leaving Prime Warframes always available for purchase. I mean vault the relics leave the Frame for sale. It's making DE a lot of money, and they'll have P.V. elitists losing their minds about how they've been slapped in the face because they spent money, and now it's easy for the "common" players to obtain the shinies. Sadly, it's here to stay. Edited January 10, 2018 by MagPrime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)i7081277 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 (edited) ember, loki, and nyx* with the way they were just giving him away they aren't going to make any money. Edited January 10, 2018 by (PS4)i7081277 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltage Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Yes please. This whole vault situation clearly shows how DE didn't think through the Relic system and Specters of the Rail. Frost came 2 times now and was free for basically a year on twitch. His only value is Misa being in the bundle to be honest. Ember is debatable given popularity and only returning once. I would like to see a real solution to the vault system and not just dumping more and more primes on top of each other to the point where more frames could be unvaulted then their are current rotated prime access frames. I would also like to see Edo Prime but that's just my preference on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuinCeltchar Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Sadly I think the Prime Vaults are here to stay. What I would suggest is that DE should start permanently unvaulting frames after they've been unvaulted 2 or 3 times. Otherwise the Prime Vaults are going to be super bloated, and more importantly, the number of vaulted Primes will dwarf the number of available Primes which will be massively off-putting to new players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragingwasabi Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 how do u guys know whats being unvaulted? and what is being unvaulted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snib Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 7 hours ago, Loswaith said: Well DE would likely make more money if they didn't vault stuff and left all previous Prime Access available so players could choose one they want, rather than one they may not want only being available. Maybe, maybe not. Time limited offers are a well researched marketing tool to generate demand. They do actually work. And I'd assume that DE is carefully comparing prime accessories sale numbers at original introduction vs at unvaulting(s). Not having those numbers myself I really cannot comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)SweatyPick3L Posted January 10, 2018 Author Share Posted January 10, 2018 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Ragingwasabi said: how do u guys know whats being unvaulted? and what is being unvaulted? Rebecca dev stream 101. Frames get vaulted in a particular order. Edited January 10, 2018 by (XB1)RDeschain82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metroid Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 10 hours ago, Ragingwasabi said: how do u guys know whats being unvaulted? and what is being unvaulted? It was in the details of the dev stream 101 post on the website. Ember, Frost, and who?? And Rebecca later confirmed it was Loki on twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoopypit Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Every time a new prime access starts or ends should also start or end the next vaulted prime access. Boom. Problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)SweatyPick3L Posted January 10, 2018 Author Share Posted January 10, 2018 (edited) Start that thread duude. I'll bump that +1 @shoopypit Edited January 10, 2018 by (XB1)RDeschain82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loswaith Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 14 hours ago, Snib said: Maybe, maybe not. Time limited offers are a well researched marketing tool to generate demand. They do actually work. And I'd assume that DE is carefully comparing prime accessories sale numbers at original introduction vs at unvaulting(s). Not having those numbers myself I really cannot comment. Given DE haven't had them always available they would have no comparison to seeing what kind of sales they would make just having them always available, it is not like they require any more storage space. While most time limited things also have no way to get them other than that specific time (part of why it works) and are rarely under the expectation of being able to get those things at a later time as well (typically having things as a now or never approach, which doesn't teach people to just wait, like the prime system does). Keep in mind primes aren't exactly time limited (just the cosmetics are) and can actually be gotten at anytime already via relics (something DE figured was worth spending the development time on creating) and thus trading. I'm sure there are plenty of players that got their primes from relics they would have otherwise purchased had that been an option for them to get the additional parts with it. Trading clearly shows players are willing to pay for the stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snib Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, Loswaith said: Keep in mind primes aren't exactly time limited (just the cosmetics are) I'm kinda assuming that the exclusive accessories are usually the main selling point for prime access but I also don't have the numbers for that. And again, a business will generally not lightly decide to make some of their products only temporarily available, typically this is a decision based on numbers. At least I hope it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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