Eathian Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Wonder how long this will go before getting shut down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok160 Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, DatDarkOne said: What you listed here has absolutely nothing at all to do with maining a frame. What you described was caused by either a player trolling you or playing badly. and there goes yet again with the dismissing the examples i've given after being accused of not giving them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok160 Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Eathian said: Wonder how long this will go before getting shut down. yea im surprised ive made it this far and its only been a day Edited January 28, 2018 by Ragnarok160 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tekka_Croe Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 26 minutes ago, Ragnarok160 said: and clearly people are moved enough by this post to let me know they don't care but still give me there insight? clearly i'm doing something right. Actually, I had posted in the thread to tell you that your OP made you seem ridiculous, and to give you a couple of tips on how to not seem ridiculous. I forgot to mention earlier that I main Ember. Feel free to cry about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DatDarkOne Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Just now, Ragnarok160 said: and there goes yet again with the dismissing the examples i've given after being accused of not giving them I wasn't dismissing anything. I just said that those examples you gave don't relate in any way to maining a frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeMonkey Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Just now, Ragnarok160 said: what kind of main? Given you quoted my ENTIRE POST which bit are you referring to? What kind of main am I? What kind of main are they? What does it matter, Warframes hardly fall under a traditional archetype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok160 Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 1 minute ago, DatDarkOne said: I wasn't dismissing anything. I just said that those examples you gave don't relate in any way to maining a frame. people do things, i ask them to stop/ change for the benefit of the party, person says know, claims they main, whats the confusion here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPrime Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ragnarok160 said: and there goes yet again with the dismissing the examples i've given after being accused of not giving them Your examples are of bad players. And I doubt they even meet your criteria of 90% playtime, unless you got stuck with some fresh-from-stasis-newbs somehow, and only have 3 Warframes to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascarith Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Ragnarok160 said: and there goes yet again with the dismissing the examples i've given after being accused of not giving them Loki dying in high level void missions does not in any way explain how someone "maining" Loki caused said Loki to die in high level void missions. Running EV Trin in a sortie also does not explain what problem there is with someone "maining" Trin. You are being "accused" of not giving examples because your examples do not exemplify the arguments you are making. Throughout this entire thread, I've never understood why your problem is with "mains." Almost every problem (if not literally every problem) you have described is someone using a frame in a way that doesn't seem to line up with your perception of how it should be used (or what frame they should be using instead). I'm not sure you've provided an example where you've actually explained the causal connection between "maining" the frame and the perceived problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok160 Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 1 minute ago, DeMonkey said: Given you quoted my ENTIRE POST which bit are you referring to? What kind of main am I? What kind of main are they? What does it matter, Warframes hardly fall under a traditional archetype. a traditional mmorpg archetype is maining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix1992 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 (edited) Request for OP's credentials considering trials, "high level survivals" and general stats. Just now, Ragnarok160 said: a traditional mmorpg archetype is maining It is not. Source : I have played most of the big MMORPG's that came out the past 10 years. Edited January 28, 2018 by phoenix1992 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok160 Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 Just now, MagPrime said: Your examples are of bad players. And I doubt they even meet your criteria of 90% playtime, unless you got stuck with some fresh-from-stasis-newbs somehow, and only have 3 Warframes to begin with. i also said hard bias picks not just 90% and it doesnt matter if they are so called "newbs" they claim to main and so my post was birthed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok160 Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 1 minute ago, phoenix1992 said: Request for OP's credentials considering trials, "high level survivals" and general stats. It is not. Source : I have played most of the big MMORPG's that came out the past 10 years. im 24 so have i Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPrime Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Ragnarok160 said: a traditional mmorpg archetype is maining Which is something Warframe doesn't have, so your entire topic is invalidated due to ones inability to main a Warframe based on this comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok160 Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ascarith said: Loki dying in high level void missions does not in any way explain how someone "maining" Loki caused said Loki to die in high level void missions. Running EV Trin in a sortie also does not explain what problem there is with someone "maining" Trin. You are being "accused" of not giving examples because your examples do not exemplify the arguments you are making. Throughout this entire thread, I've never understood why your problem is with "mains." Almost every problem (if not literally every problem) you have described is someone using a frame in a way that doesn't seem to line up with your perception of how it should be used (or what frame they should be using instead). I'm not sure you've provided an example where you've actually explained the causal connection between "maining" the frame and the perceived problem. they are accused of maining because when i ask them to swap they claim they wont because they main, whats the confusion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok160 Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 1 minute ago, MagPrime said: Which is something Warframe doesn't have, so your entire topic is invalidated due to ones inability to main a Warframe based on this comment. he said warframe isnt traditional archetype and i said traditional is maining which means if traditional is maining and warframe isn't traditional then warframe isn't a game to main Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix1992 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Just now, Ragnarok160 said: im 24 so have i 24 what? MR 24 (if this is the case) means nothing - hello there Draco. 1 minute ago, MagPrime said: Which is something Warframe doesn't have, so your entire topic is invalidated due to ones inability to main a Warframe based on this comment. It does not fit MMORPG archetype either. The only way people use "main" for stuff like WoW, Guild Wars and so on, is if they have other charterers that they actively use, but are usually not as developed for End Game activities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DatDarkOne Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Ragnarok160 said: people do things, i ask them to stop/ change for the benefit of the party, person says know, claims they main, whats the confusion here? The confusion here is that you are confusing a trolling player with one that mains. Which has lead you to make a useless topic based on a flawed argument that is constantly being debunked by everyone that posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPrime Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Just now, Ragnarok160 said: he said warframe isnt traditional archetype and i said traditional is maining which means if traditional is maining and warframe isn't traditional then warframe isn't a game to main But you don't main the game, you main a Warframe with a flexible mod selection, that effectively changes that Warframes role within the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeMonkey Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Just now, Ragnarok160 said: a traditional mmorpg archetype is maining Oh how delightfully helpful. How gloriously amazing that you could try and get pedantic right now, instead of actually countering ANY of the points I raised. By archetype I was obviously referring to your standard Support/Tank/DPS archetypes. Something that has already been mentioned throughout the thread, the context was already there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok160 Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 Just now, DatDarkOne said: The confusion here is that you are confusing a trolling player with one that mains. Which has lead you to make a useless topic based on a flawed argument that is constantly being debunked by everyone that posts. oh i'm sorry i didn't realize you were there when it happened, i wasn't aware you were clairvoyant, tell me what is the lotus doing right now? i terrible miss her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascarith Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Ragnarok160 said: they are accused of maining because when i ask them to swap they claim they wont because they main, whats the confusion? I'm not confused on how you are establishing they main a frame. I'm confused why them maining the frame is a problem. Your examples are not illuminating (at least not to me...). Edited January 28, 2018 by Ascarith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Boomstickman98 Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 1 minute ago, MagPrime said: Which is something Warframe doesn't have, so your entire topic is invalidated due to ones inability to main a Warframe based on this comment. Massive Multiplayer Online? Check Role Playing Game? You play as godly space ninjas and can make impactful decisions based on your own ideals. I say that is a massive check there. Just playing devils advocate, that particular statement is not without some amount of merit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnarok160 Posted January 28, 2018 Author Share Posted January 28, 2018 Just now, DeMonkey said: Oh how delightfully helpful. How gloriously amazing that you could try and get pedantic right now, instead of actually countering ANY of the points I raised. By archetype I was obviously referring to your standard Support/Tank/DPS archetypes. Something that has already been mentioned throughout the thread, the context was already there. i said in an earlier comment that categorizing frames into the holy trinity of gaming was difficult since some frames can fulfill multiple roles, also what points did i miss? i may have missed your comment, theirs a crap ton right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPrime Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Just now, (PS4)Boomstickman98 said: Massive Multiplayer Online? Check Role Playing Game? You play as godly space ninjas and can make impactful decisions based on your own ideals. I say that is a massive check there. Just playing devils advocate, that particular statement is not without some amount of merit. I was being snarky tbh. This entire topic is based on the flawed link between bad players and players who main Warframes, I really am having a hard time taking it seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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