Nitro747 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 So, first of all, Mag's passive is made completely irrelevant due to Vacuum. Would be even worse if there was universal vacuum. Still, it is one of the least helpful passives in the game (not like most of them are). To make things worse, her pull augment is basically her passive but strapped to her pull ability. This is twice useless since we already have vacuum, bullet jumping around costs no energy and the augment is a waste of a mod slot (I already suggested augments and things like Natural Talent to be added to the Exilus category). Another augment that could be reworked: her polarize augment. It gives you over-shields according to the amount of shields you remove from enemies. While the idea itself is good, the reality is that this augment basically works only for ONE faction of the game, out of 4 different ones. Corpus are the only ones were you can actually make use of this ability and even so it doesn't matter much since the map will be overcrowded with nulifiers, making your gains with this augment totally irrelevant. A good way of making this at least slightly better would be adding this augment for armored enemies as well. Fracturing Crush and her 2nd ability augment are nice the way they are though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocorro Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Nitro747 said: Would be even worse if there was universal vacuum I believe, Scott said in one of devstreams that universal vacuum of about ~3m was implemented for Warframes. Edited February 7, 2018 by tocorro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro747 Posted February 7, 2018 Author Share Posted February 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, tocorro said: I believe, Scott said in one of devstreams that universal vacuum of about ~3m was implemented for Warframes. I meant a real universal vacuum. The one we have now barely helps anything. I remember Scott mentioning about "having to walk around crates just to collect an energy orb" and, well, we still have to do that... It does help for when you are in Operator Mode though, but only because they move way slower than warframes. Also, I'm almost sure the real range of that vacuum are for objects 1m away from your feet at most, but thats not the case here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trndr Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Alternative passives I can think of fitting with Mags theme are: Increased Overshields (taken by Harrow) Shield gating (unlikely) Magnetic resistance (situational) Increased Magnetic damage (would'nt be all that welcome on release even if it was OP) Increased energy from orbs (probably too good) Shields/Overshields from energy pickups (probably too good) Balancing passives is hard and just saying the current passive is bad, without giving decent alternatives, will get us nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimiasai Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 A good thing with her passive should be the ability to drag shards from point A to point B with the vacuum. Or, even better, to make the shards hover around Mag until they interact with a Magnetize bubble. Couple that with a synergy between Crush and shards...Nah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypernaut1 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 not every one uses sentinels all of the time...her passive has its uses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PR1D3 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 4 hours ago, Hypernaut1 said: not every one uses sentinels all of the time...her passive has its uses Thank you! But I do agree with your point on the Polarize Augment. It would be nice to get some sort of effect on Armored Unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac10smg--Toa_of_Green Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 ..... Apply. The increased. Energy orb. Drop chance. From her pull. Remove it from pull, put it as a passive on Mag. I keep saying this dozens of times, yet no-one ever seems to notice... :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro747 Posted February 7, 2018 Author Share Posted February 7, 2018 Well well well fellas, they turned her polarize augment into a massive Mesa's Shooting Gallery. And I'm happy with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypernaut1 Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 I'll kind of miss the insta max overshield though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)NeutralSilence Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Mag's passive is pretty bad. The majority of players use Sentiels, so there's generally no reason for it to exist. The Polarize augment needs looking at too, especially sense the announcement of the Crush changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawlodiablow Posted February 9, 2018 Share Posted February 9, 2018 I love to play mag on plains with this build (aka Energy pull ) : zenurik natural talent greedy pull : 12% duration 175% efficency 145% range 200% strenght . spam jump & 1 & 3 - rly fun :D about passive: hmm maybe something like brief respite aura? but based of % with maxed efficency is terrible. make it based of value of gained shield like 50,60,70 etc and maybe scaling with strenght. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trndr Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 @pawlodiablow have you tried Mag since the crush change? As is now Mag dosn't need a way to get more shields, especially one that dosn't give overshields. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AetherMcLoud Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Generally way more augments should be exilus mods though, right now only Nova portal and Valkyr hysteria augments are exilus mods. Anything that's not a straight up dps increase should be exilus IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro747 Posted February 10, 2018 Author Share Posted February 10, 2018 4 hours ago, trndr said: @pawlodiablow have you tried Mag since the crush change? As is now Mag dosn't need a way to get more shields, especially one that dosn't give overshields. This thread is kinda old and made before they announced her polarize passive rework. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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