(PSN)HAVOCS-Regret Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) Now that y'all have followed the click bait, lol, friends and I were discussing Warframe, and we realised that the game actually has loot boxes and has always had them!! The Dragon Mod packs! You pay with the premium currency (90 platinum), and you get some random mods. You pay for a random loot reward for which the odds of getting anything good are astronomically small. In Warframe's defence, I don't believe they realise what they are actually doing, they have been selling these Mod packs for years, before we all (including the developers) realised what a predatory practice this was. Back in the day these packs seemed very expensive, but fine. Now with what we have learned with Electronic Arts, Activision, etc, we all realise that this practice is not okay. I would like DE to remove the Dragon Mod packs, or alter the packs, so that you know exactly what you are going to get. I don't want our game to have loot boxes ever, lets get rid of them! Please comment, like and share so this post/idea gets under DEs radar. Thanks Tenno, keep fighting the good fight! P.S. Someone pointed out below that you can buy relic packs for 50p as well, are these loot boxes also? I'm not sure If they are, what do you guys and gals think? At the very least DE should reconsider those as well, just to make sure they feel comfortable selling them. Edited February 17, 2018 by (PS4)Fairfied new point of view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evanescent Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 On the flip side the packs are so bad there's no benefit to buying them, hahaha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YUNoJump Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 The key thing is that nobody cares about the mod packs. Most lootboxes that people care about are a) in a paid game, and b) are central to earning items in the game. Warframe is free so extensive microtransactions are a given, and the mod packs are a tiny portion of the market, on top of not even really being worth it. If Syandanas or Deluxe skins were in lootboxes then we'd care, but they aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LechKril Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 These aren't items packaged to get more money from people. They're relics of an ancient era. The sooner they get removed, the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Aerik93 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 At the very least it should make the Dragon Mod Packs purchaseable with credits and not platinum. It wouldn’t be that hard to run the Index a couple of times for enough credits to try and get some mods. There are no other ways to actually buy mods in the game, and I personally believe this should be a particular method. Being done with credits shouldn’t make it that significant of a thing, right? Or even let Teshin do it for Standing, just like every other syndicate does with Relic Packs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--Q--XFA Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 You just learned about them? omg. There's also relic packs for 50p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xardis Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, (PS4)Aerik93 said: There are no other ways to actually buy mods in the game Thats not entirely true, there are some specific weapon packs that sell a specific stance with them, like Destreza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)HAVOCS-Regret Posted February 17, 2018 Author Share Posted February 17, 2018 1 minute ago, --Q--XFA said: You just learned about them? omg. There's also relic packs for 50p Haven't just learned about them, just that I've only now realised what they are. Interesting point about the relic packs though, hmm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redspace0095 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) If anything I think they should at least change them so One pack offers all the basic Power mods - Intensify, Stretch, Flow, Streamline, another the Frame resilience mods - Steel Fibre, Redirection, Vitality and the third being a combo of both. Or just get rid of the damaged mods all together. Edited February 17, 2018 by Redspace0095 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayxAyanami Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, (PS4)Fairfied said: I would like DE to remove the Dragon Mod packs Do people even buy those? The only time i've even got them is when I bought 1k plat with 75% discount.... I sure hope this is a troll post, If not then....You'd have better chances farming mods than opening those packs anyways, but then again, common sense is quite scarce on the forums Edited February 17, 2018 by RayxAyanami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LechKril Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Agreed. If you could buy packs of actually useful starter mods it would probably help newbies more than anything. Even better if they're maxed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lored Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 14 минут назад, (PS4)Aerik93 сказал: At the very least it should make the Dragon Mod Packs purchaseable with credits and not platinum. It wouldn’t be that hard to run the Index a couple of times for enough credits to try and get some mods. There are no other ways to actually buy mods in the game, and I personally believe this should be a particular method. Being done with credits shouldn’t make it that significant of a thing, right? Baro Ki'Teer sometimes brought Falcon Mod Pack and Dragon Mod Pack, so they could be bought not for Platinim, but for Ducats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayxAyanami Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 1 minute ago, LechKril said: Agreed. If you could buy packs of actually useful starter mods it would probably help newbies more than anything. Even better if they're maxed. They can just as easily farm for them. Why does everything need to be handed on a Platinum platter for "newbies". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LechKril Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Just now, RayxAyanami said: They can just as easily farm for them. Why does everything need to be handed on a Platinum platter for "newbies". Because they're newbies. Warframe is rather convoluted with its farming. Where most games of this age would just have you grind xp or something, you need to hunt down the mods instead in wf, and often you don't even know which ones you need up until way later. I suppose a better solution would be some missions specifically made for newbies that drop useful starter mods. Selling packs of them would still help though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayxAyanami Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, LechKril said: Because they're newbies. Warframe is rather convoluted with its farming. Where most games of this age would just have you grind xp or something, you need to hunt down the mods instead in wf, and often you don't even know which ones you need up until way later. I suppose a better solution would be some missions specifically made for newbies that drop useful starter mods. Selling packs of them would still help though. What would help is a Starters guide or missions explaining how mods work in detail. This is not like other games, It's an endless grind-fest. You have to work for what you want. Think of mods as exp if you want. You farm for them, you use endo as skill points to level them up. When will people stop comparing Warframe to other run of the mill MMORPGs / MMOs. Edited February 17, 2018 by RayxAyanami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LechKril Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 1 minute ago, RayxAyanami said: What would help is a Starters guide or missions explaining how mods work in detail. This is not like other games, It's an endless grind-fest. You have to work for what you want. Think of mods as exp if you want. You farm for them, you use endo as skill points to level them up. When will people stop comparing Warframe to other run of the mill MMORPGs / MMOs. Warframe isn't even an mmo. The comparison here isn't the amount of grind, it's that you're grinding for specific components instead of in general. This is why we definitely need dedicated missions, a guide, packs, whatever. Right now the newbie situation is abysmal. This doesn't have anything to do with how warframe works, it's just that no one tells the newbies about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayxAyanami Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, LechKril said: Warframe isn't even an mmo. The comparison here isn't the amount of grind, it's that you're grinding for specific components instead of in general. This is why we definitely need dedicated missions, a guide, packs, whatever. Right now the newbie situation is abysmal. This doesn't have anything to do with how warframe works, it's just that no one tells the newbies about it! There are amazing guides if you bother looking for them. I see no problem with grinding for specific components, It's like that in EVERY mmo / rpg that has a crafting system. After 2 years I'm honestly cynical towards topics like these. Believe it or not, the situation for new players was much worse back when I started. Getting your hands on prime gear wasn't easy. But the fact that the game didn't hold my hand and just threw me into a Universe to explore is what drew me to warframe. Edited February 17, 2018 by RayxAyanami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LechKril Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Just now, RayxAyanami said: There are amazing guides if you bother looking for them. I see no problem with grinding for specific components, It's like that in EVERY mmo / rpg that has a crafting system. After 2 years I'm honestly cynical towards topics like these. Believe it or not, the situation for new players was much worse back when I started. Getting your hands on prime gear wasn't easy. But the fact that the game didn't hold my hand and just threw me into a Universe to explore is what drew me to warframe. I've been playing for ages, so I'm well aware of how it used to be. As much as I'd like to say that people can just look things up, the reality is plenty of them just...don't. Go figure. If it's not in front of them in the game, plenty of them just give up. And please don't say that we don't want players like that. They can be perfectly fine people otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayxAyanami Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, LechKril said: I've been playing for ages, so I'm well aware of how it used to be. God I hope the account i'm looking at in-game is your alt. Because if that's "ages", I must be as old as Ballas. . Edited February 17, 2018 by RayxAyanami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LechKril Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 I'm super old. Also I think I remember you from somewhere. Were you ever in RV, maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayxAyanami Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 2 minutes ago, LechKril said: I'm super old. Also I think I remember you from somewhere. Were you ever in RV, maybe? I still am, What would your main account be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LechKril Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 (edited) Someone who isn't in RV anymore. Bahaha. You guys were pretty organized but the also way too egoistic, imo. But enough derailing. Edited February 17, 2018 by LechKril Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptix123 Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, RayxAyanami said: God I hope the account i'm looking at in-game is your alt. Because if that's "ages", I must be as old as Ballas. . People lose accounts. I had an account from back when nova was released, got out of the game, got back in april 2016. Couldn't remember account email, had to start over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayxAyanami Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Just now, LechKril said: Someone who isn't in RV anymore. Bahaha. Were you a skrub who got kicked ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LechKril Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 Just now, RayxAyanami said: Were you a skrub who got kicked ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) You wish X) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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