How is Riven Disposition Calculated?

[Lawmonark]

So i am a little confused how Riven Disposition is calculated.

From the wiki it says: http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Riven_Mods

"The randomized attributes for Riven mods are affected by Disposition, a modifier provided by the system that collates the usage popularity of a given weapon across the entire player base."

Here are all the changes that have happened so far:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tY2kYC8eiFq1STC1gYrSgWe6S3O9iKu2LHr4-pN5MTY/edit#gid=1133202225

I heard from few people that it is also calculated based on based stats... but i have not found documentation on this anywhere. Can someone enlighten me on the mechanics?

Edited April 17, 2018 by Krhymez

[Dwolfknight]

It's supposed to be calculated by weapons use, however, DE is somewhat scared of changing the dispositions because of the outcry it would cause is what I assume.

[InDueTime-EN-]

It was initially based on usage and stats. Now it's more on stats since, there is now way they can accurately predict the usage for new weapons and they have the older weapons as a basis. 

The main thing that affects the disposition is, how the weapon performs compared to weapons in the same category. 

[rune_me]

Something like this:

GAME DEVELOPER #1: "Should we give this one a disposition of 3 or 4?"

GAME DEVELOPER #2: "I think 4"

GAME DEVELOPER #1: "4 it is then."

[(PSN)EpICFreeDoMZz]

Riven disposition is based upon a weapons popularity and use. The more powerful a weapon is the more use it will see therefore so the weapon doesn't become so OP a popular weapons disposition will be lower. Disposition will then affect a rivens stats. The lower the disposition the lower the stats. 

You can see this most recently with the tiberon prime. Currently its a really popular weapon and very good and because of its disposition the rivens are selling for a lot. But once they do the next disposition update it will likely drop to about 2 or 3 meaning the stats for all rivens will also be reduced. Hope this helps 

[Soupf8]

Id say the disposition should move accordingly to their original plans so the meta is never the same, and so we could some day see outstanding performance from all weapons.

[Sormaran]

I like all the assumptions and just bashing on DE, when there's literally a spreadsheet link right on wiki with all the disposition changes. Sure its not live balancing(which would be ideal), but its still almost every patch. And saying DE scared to change something because of the backlash... list is way too long, lets say of most recent things ember and trials said hello.

All your tiberon rivens will be nerfed, DE just taking their time to accurately pinpoint popularity of the weapon and not just nerf it to 0.5 disposition 5 days after weapon's release.

Edited April 16, 2018 by Sormaran

[Trichouette]

il y a 6 minutes, Nompii a dit :

Id say the disposition should move accordingly to their original plans so the meta is never the same, and so we could some day see outstanding performance from all weapons.

Yeah sure, if you have the luck to get a riven, then the luck to get the riven for the weapon you want, then the luck for good stats, then the luck for good stats values and not a too harsh negative stat.

And even then, you can only have rivens for a tiny % of the weapons in the game.

[rune_me]

7 minutes ago, Sormaran said:

All your tiberon rivens will be nerfed, DE just taking their time to accurately pinpoint popularity of the weapon and not just nerf it to 0.5 disposition 5 days after weapon's release.

Oh, you mean like the Sicarus disposition was nerfed? Yeah, it's only been 3 years and still nothing has happened. Sure, wake me up when they change it for Tiberon in what? Five years? Six?

Edited April 16, 2018 by rune_me

[Lawmonark]

26 minutes ago, InDueTime-EN- said:

It was initially based on usage and stats. Now it's more on stats since, there is now way they can accurately predict the usage for new weapons and they have the older weapons as a basis. 

The main thing that affects the disposition is, how the weapon performs compared to weapons in the same category. 

Where is the info of it being based on stats?

[Carnage2K4]

I've asked on the dev stream threads a few times if they will ever alter it to reflect new changes, but they have always ignored the question...

 

[Midas]

6 hours ago, Krhymez said:

So i am a little confused how Riven Disposition is calculated.

From the wiki it says: http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Riven_Mods

"The randomized attributes for Riven mods are affected by Disposition, a modifier provided by the system that collates the usage popularity of a given weapon across the entire player base."

Since they were released i can only remember the Aklex disposition getting adjusted.

"If a weapon's disposition is changed , the attributes on already unveiled rivens for the weapon will be automatically adjusted to match the new disposition. e.g. AkLex disposition reduced from 5 to 3"

I heard from few people that it is also calculated based on based stats... but i have not found documentation on this anywhere. Can someone enlighten me on the mechanics?

I believe disposition is calculated by OVERALL most used weapon. Which causes a ton of problems especially for people who have left the community as a whole leaving their mark on the disposition.

[Patzer]

Like this: 

[Midas]

http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Synoid_Gammacor Literally my theory has to be correct. This has been unused for SO LONG. Beam weapons were a myth prior.

[(PSN)robotwars7]

it's supposedly changed based on a weapon's popularity. Sicarus and Tiberon Primes have flown under the radar, but I reckon it'll get nerfed eventually. DE like to wait for a while before making changes so as not to tip the applecart so bad.

[fluffysnowcap]

When the akbolto prime was released the disposition of the akbolto was reduced; however when the tiberon prime was released its dispshion was untouched. I see vastly more players using tiberon than akboltos, and the weapon stats reflect that the tiberon is very powerful and isn't in need of a strong riven, however much we like it having one... atchley all is fine don't tell DE.

[(PSN)CannaWhoopazz13]

15 hours ago, Sormaran said:

I like all the assumptions and just bashing on DE, when there's literally a spreadsheet link right on wiki with all the disposition changes. Sure its not live balancing(which would be ideal), but its still almost every patch. And saying DE scared to change something because of the backlash... list is way too long, lets say of most recent things ember and trials said hello.

All your tiberon rivens will be nerfed, DE just taking their time to accurately pinpoint popularity of the weapon and not just nerf it to 0.5 disposition 5 days after weapon's release.

Oh, you're right!  There have been more changes than I thought, thank you for bringing this to my attention!  Evidently they never draw attention to it in patch notes.