(XBOX)Skyvernn Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, MagPrime said: Why? Other people having it doesn't devalue the cosmetic item. If it reduces your enjoyment simply because other people have it, that's more of a you issue than a DE issue. I'm all for people having it but the thing was originally designed to be rewarded as a challenging reward. This time around it's far simpler to obtain since everything we have is far stronger nowadays. Where has the challenge gone?? If it was a me issue I wouldn't address long time players as a whole. In all honesty how many ways of showing are long time player status do we have now? Do you see my point I'm making it's that DE are slowly taking away the things we long time players worked for and giving them out much easier. Overall the game needs more challenging content right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makinar Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Been there,done that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishyflakes Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, (XB1)Dova Seniorious said: I'm all for people having it but the thing was originally designed to be rewarded as a challenging reward. This time around it's far simpler to obtain since everything we have is far stronger nowadays. Where has the challenge gone?? If it was a me issue I wouldn't address long time players as a whole. In all honesty how many ways of showing are long time player status do we have now? Do you see my point I'm making it's that DE are slowly taking away the things we long time players worked for and giving them out much easier. Overall the game needs more challenging content right now. Please tell me you don't actually go around snubbing newer players for not being around during these few alerts or spending their time grinding an RNG drop chance for your bubbly sigil. Warframe doesn't need those kinds of players. Spoiler Oops you're doing it in this thread rip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouinpis Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 thx DE for Tactical alert =stratos,been a loong time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPrime Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, (XB1)Dova Seniorious said: I'm all for people having it but the thing was originally designed to be rewarded as a challenging reward. This time around it's far simpler to obtain since everything we have is far stronger nowadays. Where has the challenge gone?? If it was a me issue I wouldn't address long time players as a whole. In all honesty how many ways of showing are long time player status do we have now? Do you see my point I'm making it's that DE are slowly taking away the things we long time players worked for and giving them out much easier. Overall the game needs more challenging content right now. The original TA the Rift Sigil was rewarded from was not a challenge, it was a gear check. I ran it 3 times to help my clan mates through it and as long as you went full META and paid attention, it was as boring as an1 hour Survival with a META loadout. How do long term players show of how long they've played? Not ll long time players want or need to show that off. From personal experience, showing off makes you a target to newer players who just demand free stuff and berate you until you drop them on ignore. As to how many ways; play time, event badges, score counts on their profiles, screenshots. Sigils and weapons are simply the easiest way of showing off how long you've been around. I see that you're trying to make an appeal towards exclusivity that this game doesn't need. Look at the mess that is the Founders program every time it's brought up; there will never be a solution that makes everyone 100% satisfied. As to whether or not the game is challenging; that's a largely subjective topic. There are a couple threads about it, I suggest checking them out. Mainly though, what you find challenging, I find tedious and boring, or vice versa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Skyvernn Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, Fishyflakes said: Please tell me you don't actually go around snubbing newer players for not being around during these few alerts or spending their time grinding an RNG drop chance for your bubbly sigil. Warframe doesn't need those kinds of players. Reveal hidden contents Oops you're doing it in this thread rip I'm not... I'm saying that something like the rift sigil should be returning as a challenging item to obtain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPrime Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 1 minute ago, (XB1)Dova Seniorious said: I'm not... I'm saying that something like the rift sigil should be returning as a challenging item to obtain. Define challenge. In a broad sense, give me an example that the millions of players all agree on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eidolon_Slayer Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 (edited) 34 minutes ago, (XB1)Dova Seniorious said: Rip the exclusivity behind this sigil. Yet another thing taken away from long time players. Watch them bring back event badges next. 1 minute ago, MagPrime said: Define challenge. In a broad sense, give me an example that the millions of players all agree on. Edited July 28, 2018 by Eidolon_Slayer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPrime Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Just now, Eidolon_Slayer said: You ducking out on this one? 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aswitz87 Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 1 minute ago, (XB1)Dova Seniorious said: I'm not... I'm saying that something like the rift sigil should be returning as a challenging item to obtain. This is challenging... I have to find time in my RL schedule to fit in 50 or so minutes. Oh you mean game challenging... there is nothing in this game truly challenging other than trying patience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWhitterMatter Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 This geniunly pisses me off. It's like a legacy thing your giving away for free. This isn't even a challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eidolon_Slayer Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, MagPrime said: You ducking out on this one? 😉 Founders will always have something exclusive in this game. *quack* Edited July 28, 2018 by Eidolon_Slayer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPrime Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Just now, Eidolon_Slayer said: Founders will always have something exclusive in this game. Let me have my pun, dangit. Founders, ruining everything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eidolon_Slayer Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Just now, MagPrime said: Let me have my pun, dangit. Founders, ruining everything! *quack* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWhitterMatter Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, MagPrime said: The original TA the Rift Sigil was rewarded from was not a challenge, it was a gear check. I ran it 3 times to help my clan mates through it and as long as you went full META and paid attention, it was as boring as an1 hour Survival with a META loadout. How do long term players show of how long they've played? Not ll long time players want or need to show that off. From personal experience, showing off makes you a target to newer players who just demand free stuff and berate you until you drop them on ignore. As to how many ways; play time, event badges, score counts on their profiles, screenshots. Sigils and weapons are simply the easiest way of showing off how long you've been around. I see that you're trying to make an appeal towards exclusivity that this game doesn't need. Look at the mess that is the Founders program every time it's brought up; there will never be a solution that makes everyone 100% satisfied. As to whether or not the game is challenging; that's a largely subjective topic. There are a couple threads about it, I suggest checking them out. Mainly though, what you find challenging, I find tedious and boring, or vice versa. Shut up. It was not a gear check. It was a joke that DE did and they said they were suprised that people figured out how to beat it. Back then, the game was not filled with so much power creep. Me and friends worked hard to get the sigil and now DE basically just giving it for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPrime Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Just now, Eidolon_Slayer said: *quack* lol Anyway, yeah, Founders will always have the truest of Exclusives and I genuinely don't care about that. At one point I advocated for a reallocation of the associated mastery affinity, because it was the difference between max MR at the time but now, feh. People who joined after me are MR 24 already. The only thing that should be 100% exclusive, are event badges. Beyond that, fair game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPrime Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 1 minute ago, TheWhitterMatter said: Shut up. It was not a gear check. It was a joke that DE did and they said they were suprised that people figured out how to beat it. Back then, the game was not filled with so much power creep. Me and friends worked hard to get the sigil and now DE basically just giving it for free. Yeah, sure, it was real hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Skyvernn Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, TheWhitterMatter said: Shut up. It was not a gear check. It was a joke that DE did and they said they were suprised that people figured out how to beat it. Back then, the game was not filled with so much power creep. Me and friends worked hard to get the sigil and now DE basically just giving it for free. See somebody else understands. Thankyou sir. For me I did it solo with Valkyr alongside a bunch of specters so I was constantly having to kill enemies and manage points while the specters were bait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouinpis Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 thx DE for Event Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eidolon_Slayer Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, MagPrime said: lol Anyway, yeah, Founders will always have the truest of Exclusives and I genuinely don't care about that. At one point I advocated for a reallocation of the associated mastery affinity, because it was the difference between max MR at the time but now, feh. People who joined after me are MR 24 already. The only thing that should be 100% exclusive, are event badges. Beyond that, fair game. Badges don't really mean much imho. I see people wear fancy symbols on their shoulders, but it passes me like a common ad on a bus - nothing special / don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPrime Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Eidolon_Slayer said: Badges don't really mean much imho. I see people wear fancy symbols on their shoulders, but it passes me like a common ad on a bus - nothing special / don't care. I collect them because I want them, but they're not so I can rub other peoples faces in them. /shrug Exclusive badges are ultimately harmless as they don't offer a significant #fashionframe nor do they give any affinity. Perfect rewards, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eidolon_Slayer Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 Just now, MagPrime said: I collect them because I want them, but they're not so I can rub other peoples faces in them. /shrug Exclusive badges are ultimately harmless as they don't offer a significant #fashionframe nor do they give any affinity. Perfect rewards, really. Wasn't judging you, but those that I've seen who place a heavy emphasis on badges. Your second line got me thinking.... Arcane badges? powercreep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPrime Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Eidolon_Slayer said: Wasn't judging you, but those that I've seen who place a heavy emphasis on badges. Your second line got me thinking.... Arcane badges? powercreep. ...I only support this because it would make so many people scream and I'm feeling sadistic right now. Edited July 28, 2018 by MagPrime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eidolon_Slayer Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 6 minutes ago, MagPrime said: ...I only support this because it would make so many people scream and I'm feeling sadistic right now. Let the controversy begin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPrime Posted July 28, 2018 Share Posted July 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, Eidolon_Slayer said: Let the controversy begin. gets salt scoop and a new bucket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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