Has Anyone Noticed How De Is Slowly Getting Rid Of Rng In Many Areas?

[Tesseract_The_Pariah]

First thing I remember is when you get a guaranteed warframe part drop from a boss - at the end of the mission instead of being a physical drop, at that.  That change was MORE than welcome.

Next up is when they made it so you can't get duplicate warframe parts that you don't already have.

 

Third thing I remember is when they made the quest for Mirage.  0% RNG involved in that, you get a part a mission after answering a riddle.

Latest thing is Cryotic.  Absolutely NO RNG involved, you get a set amount per extractor. 

Just goes to show that despite popular belief, DE does give a S#&$. 

There are probably areas I missed-- anyone else know of other cases like this?

[agung.up]

Yeah I noticed. Still, people keep focusing on the bad part because... well, people.

[Letter13]

Giving us the ability to color our Kubrows, phasing out the RNG scramblers; some of the most desirable colors are still RNG breeds only, but for the standard colors we don't have to rely on RNG as much.

[Tesseract_The_Pariah]

Yeah I noticed. Still, people keep focusing on the bad part because... well, people.

Makes me want to slap a $#*(@.

 

Wow, My foul mouth nowadays.  But really, I wish people would just relax and enjoy Warframe.  If they're bored of it they can play other games until new content is patched in.  Not much else to it, really.

Edited September 4, 2014 by Gaminus

[Vaikiss]

tell that to my 13 in a row nyx chasis 

 

 

and 21 phorid kills to get 3 different parts

 

 

oh and 11 seeker barrels in a row from vor and aprox 30+ kills to get chronus bp

 

 

still dont have miter bp even tho i killed the boss over 20 times 4 sure 

Edited September 4, 2014 by Vaikiss

[Tesseract_The_Pariah]

tell that to my 13 in a row nyx chasis 

 

 

and 21 phorid kills to get 3 different parts

Huh, seems bugged.  Well, dat argon doe. 

[Aeiroth]

I surely hope they continue this trend since Mirage's quest was actually fun in my opinion, despite being the exact same thing I've done thousands of times. And since you actually got what you came for, that sense of accomplishment was satisfying, while not buried under a pile of excremental RNG that loves to hate us. For the Cryotic, I also liked that you know what you're getting, but that for every successful dig the game got a little tougher. So yeah, I'd say these two are good examples of things that doesn't rely on RNG.

[ashrah]

i farm 2 day miter barrel.....god knows how much runs i did^^ but never give up

[Semshol]

You can still get duplicate warframe parts. Ran Vay Hek 6 times to get my hydroid.

 

But you are right, some things are not RNG which is nice.

[BoneBreakerx]

Next up is when they made it so you can't get duplicate warframe parts that you don't already have.

i assume what your trying to say is that you wont get 3 x chassis in 3 runs? (if not just ignore me)

when did they change that? must have been in the last few hours since i judt did 3 jackal runs and got 3 x chassis

[chaosking243]

Next up is when they made it so you can't get duplicate warframe parts that you don't already have.

Pretty sure they never did this, as you can still get the same part multiple times in a row. Can you provide a source to where someone from DE said that you can't get duplicate warframe parts anymore?

[BrazilianJoe]

You know guys, the RNG in the game is not just a RNG. 

 

It's a BIASED RNG. 

 

It has 2 different levels of bias:

 

BIAS 1: not all loot has equal chance of dropping. There is common loot, uncommon loot and rare loot. Currently DE locked down the tables and we cannot get the exact base rates for each item. 

 

BIAS 2: time window. If you repeatedly play a mission, you will notice that you will hit long streaks with a high probability of getting the same item over and over. It's all too common. I've had Forma streaks on the Void. Magnum Force streaks on Vaults. Orokin cells/ no orokin cells on Sargas Ruk. Neural sensors/ no neural sensors on Alad V. 

 

There are times where the game is more likely to drop you a specific item from the drop table, even if it's rare. It is the least understood part of the RNG, but it's there an you can notice it over time. 

[sp33chle55]

I think its the diversity that makes warframe so great nowadays. Its ok to have rng, but you also need to have the feeling that you achieve sth by actually playing the game. My opinion is that warframe is almost perfectly balanced in that.

[Pandoran_Stallion]

When they remove the Hek key and replace it with some sort of repayable gateway mission that leads to Hek, like a mission you must complete every time before you face him, I'd be inclined to agree. I also hope they add some way to keep the same reward from appearing twice in one session/squad.

[Vaikiss]

i assume what your trying to say is that you wont get 3 x chassis in 3 runs? (if not just ignore me)

when did they change that? must have been in the last few hours since i judt did 3 jackal runs and got 3 x chassis

 

 

i did like 10 war runs for galium today morning  prettysure i got like 6 helmets in a row first  so noway u dont get duplicates 

 

 

also rng is $&*&*#(%& it would be so much better if u actually had to kill the same boss for 10 times and then u can claim ur 3 different warframe parts instead of relying on luck to get them based on rng 

 

 

same with rare mods /etc   i got some of the mods 20++++ each of rare ones and yet i still lack some common stances and so 

Edited September 4, 2014 by Vaikiss

[Letter13]

tell that to my 13 in a row nyx chasis 

 

 

and 21 phorid kills to get 3 different parts

Were you running with randome? Or solo?

 

If it's with randoms, the part drop at the end is the same for everyone, so chances are whoever was hosting didn't have the part which dropped at the end.

[arKRazor]

Once tried to get a Rhino chassis for a friend who just started the game. He'd gotten the systems and helmet before we joined him. "Lucky you," we'd thought, thinking the chassis would soon follow since it's the most common. 

We spent the next eternity collecting no fewer than 5 system BPs and 4 helmet BPs before finally getting one for the chassis.


EDIT: Our teamspeak was full of groans and incredulous laughter as the situation became increasingly silly.

Edited September 4, 2014 by arKRazor

[DoomStick]

It took forever for me to complete rhino and valkyr

[buriburi]

you get a set amount per extractor. 

 

not true

[ndantony]

First thing I remember is when you get a guaranteed warframe part drop from a boss - at the end of the mission instead of being a physical drop, at that. That change was MORE than welcome.

Next up is when they made it so you can't get duplicate warframe parts that you don't already have.

Third thing I remember is when they made the quest for Mirage.  0% RNG involved in that, you get a part a mission after answering a riddle.

Latest thing is Cryotic. Absolutely NO RNG involved, you get a set amount per extractor.

Just goes to show that despite popular belief, DE does give a S#&$

There are probably areas I missed-- anyone else know of other cases like this?

RPG is coming. If the majority of the community wants Warframe to have more rpg-quests like or mmorpg, then you can fairly expect that's where it heading. Edited September 4, 2014 by ndantony

[chaosking243]

If DE really wanted to move away from a RNG-based system, the void wouldn't be like it is now. I thought T4 would help redistribute parts and make things easier, but then they added duplicate parts and actually made RNG worse.

[Tails-san]

 

you get a set amount per extractor.

 

not true

 

Actually, it is true, provided that the excavator isn't destroyed. There's variance based on which node you played, but every completed excavator gave the same amount on that node (100 on earth, 200 on Phobos, 300 on Europa), with no RNG determining the amount.

[Elenortirie]

"Next up is when they made it so you can't get duplicate warframe parts that you don't already have."

 

erm..... tell that to all those muplicated drops of some frame parts I have and actually don't need

[latarzanla]

A:What is this?
B: A quest.
A: (After finishing the it throws quest furiously to the ground) ANOTHAH.
Seriously though, we like them, give us MOAR!

[(PSN)Magician_NG]

I wonder if I'll ever forgive them for Hydroid parts RNG?

 

Probably not.

 

But it's a welcome barrier for an otherwise annoying frame, so it's not all bad I guess.