kLai Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 DE is slowly but surely turning into Nexon with their cash shop antics. Let's see how far it takes them before everyone leaves in disgust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inberun Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 I have a joke. Misa Syandana. Oh wait I think you won't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexus06 Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Hey guys I just wanted to know if any one knew the end date for prime time? -Thanks in advance, Nexus06- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zara Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 I'm not sure but I don't think Prime Access ends, it's just once there are new primes out - it'll replace the previous packages (Right..?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPeanut Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 I'm not certain, but if I recall correctly, it updates with the newest prime gear they release. So I guess it ends when they stop making new prime stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dtexas Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 (edited) Probably when U12 comes? Then it will be updated with the new prime gear for that. Edited November 27, 2013 by Dtexas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintLucifer Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 It don't truly ends, just that every time a new prime is released you will have to fork over another 140 usd for a new pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolarDwagon Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Putting them into the market at this point would be horrible. Yes, people don't like the thought of having to pay... but imagine how you would feel having paid 140 dollars.... only for a week later your "exclusive" items to be freely available to anyone with a couple of hundred platinum, which most founders probably still have lying round, or anyone who's gotten lucky with trades. Pissing off the people who have shown the most willingness to fund your game is an amazingly bad business model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnbeBleeder Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 So I bet you are the type of people who complain Ferrari's are too expensive? Yeah they cost millions but they do the same thing as a beat up junker. They drive you places. One is just cosmetically beat than the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lautalocos Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 I don't give a S#&$ I'm not going to shell out 140 dollars to get the items that I want. I have 2700 plat to spend to buy them, I'm not putting another dime into this game if they don't change it. This is absolutely ridiculous, the prime items are fine I get it at least I can farm for them, but I want the scarf and the titan extractor. i want excalibur prime. oh wait, i cant get him any more. in fact, a lot of players, in cluding the new wave of layers of the PS4, cant get him. they too could say "hey, i would buy him, but i cant get him" in fact, eben before im sure a lot of people would have payed for him, or the skana and lato prime, but they wouldnt because they only wanted to pay for that, not all of that platinum. as you can see, those people and the new people are in the same situation. i dont see how this situation is different from the founders program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firetempest Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 I don't want to shell out $140 for a scarf but I want the scarf... Guess I wont get the scarf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlchemistMute Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 I have a joke. Misa Syandana. Oh wait I think you won't get it. Normally, the pimp'd trim is pretty cool. But, IMO, not with the Misa Prime. I hope a normal one is released eventually, but considering the Dakra and Reaper Primes.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krysis_V Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Hey guys, just to throw something in the discussion and quote my boss[DE]Megan, in case you have missed it: And that still doesn't answer the question from all these posts. Some of us founders, we get it, we got our shiny badge, Excal prime, DC and Landmark. But the fundamental question is: So even someone whom have once invested a healthy amount will still have to fork out an extremely high amount just to get themselves covered in this game with no deals in considering their past efforts. Let me phrase it another way: We are expected to pay approx $600 each year to cover all contents within the game, true or false? And I'm guessing some people don't get it. This pack, a prime scarf is exclusive. There is no clue to what may happen next. It's still good to see that some people are not bothered by this because it contributes as a feedback. What if they decide to lock a Sentinel Prime behind a $140 wall next? I would love to see some people's reaction should that happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlayn Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Agreed. There was no reason for them to do things this way. And their lack of understanding of game economics will mean the eventual end of this game. Nor do I anticipate that end being too far off. I'm actually kind of looking forward to it, at this point; they are that frustrating. well it does work somewhat... When the event first started, and prime access came the game pretty much flooded with ember primes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilemyre Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 (edited) To be honest primes are ugly as hell anyway and this is coming from someone who bought founders. Also surprises me people still fall for the whole "exclusiveness" gimmick. Edited November 27, 2013 by Blk_Mage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlayn Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 (edited) Tobe honest primes are ugly as hell anyway and this is coming from someone who bought founders. what? I thought Excalibur Prime was the best looking prime of them all... looks better than Excalibur in my opinion. Edited November 27, 2013 by Arlayn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilemyre Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 (edited) what? I thought Excalibur Prime was the best looking prime of them all... looks better than Excalibur in my opinion. I sold my excal prime because the only design that looked fitting for him was stock, anything else made him pure ugly and the gold was a nice novelty but wore off fast. The only redeeming thing he had which let me keep him for awhile was his energy activation when near death boxes but besides that he's nothing special. Edited November 27, 2013 by Blk_Mage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakontis Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 And that still doesn't answer the question from all these posts. Some of us founders, we get it, we got our shiny badge, Excal prime, DC and Landmark. But the fundamental question is: So even someone whom have once invested a healthy amount will still have to fork out an extremely high amount just to get themselves covered in this game with no deals in considering their past efforts. Let me phrase it another way: We are expected to pay approx $600 each year to cover all contents within the game, true or false? And I'm guessing some people don't get it. This pack, a prime scarf is exclusive. There is no clue to what may happen next. It's still good to see that some people are not bothered by this because it contributes as a feedback. What if they decide to lock a Sentinel Prime behind a $140 wall next? I would love to see some people's reaction should that happen. Especially a UNIQUE Sentinel Prime with no regular version, which is the situation with the Syandana. It has no non-prime version of it, just the Misa Prime Syandana. It'd be like if they locked a Dakra Prime behind that pay wall instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent_of_Change Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 (edited) Especially a UNIQUE Sentinel Prime with no regular version, which is the situation with the Syandana. It has no non-prime version of it, just the Misa Prime Syandana. It'd be like if they locked a Dakra Prime behind that pay wall instead. 1. It's not a sentinel it's a resource collector and there is a non prime version of it in the market for credits. and the damn things aren't all that great anyway. If it was a sentinel it would be different but it's not, and if you haven't been paying attention long enough to actually think that there is a slippery slope argument to be made here I have some tinfoil hats for you as I understand they help prevent evil organizations from brainwashing you, they might help calm you down. 2. It's just a stupid scarf, a premium scarf, and a "bonus" at that for people who invest in the discount plat void grind skipping package deal for a lot of monies. At the end of the day nothing that affects gameplay is locked behind a "pay wall" and if the extraneous cosmetics mean that much to you then buy the package or don't. Those are really your only options at this juncture. Edited November 27, 2013 by Agent_of_Change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloudPies Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Exclusives are fine and all, truth of the matter is, the current rendition of 'prime access' is a slap in the face to founders. I even brought additional plat in preparation for scarves, and now to get the best looking scarf is locked behind US$140. How many people do you think would buy a significant amount of plat randomly again DE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DitsyPixie Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Agreed. There was no reason for them to do things this way. And their lack of understanding of game economics will mean the eventual end of this game. Nor do I anticipate that end being too far off. I'm actually kind of looking forward to it, at this point; they are that frustrating. This =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NalkorRN Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 1. It's not a sentinel it's a resource collector and there is a non prime version of it in the market for credits. and the damn things aren't all that great anyway. If it was a sentinel it would be different but it's not, and if you haven't been paying attention long enough to actually think that there is a slippery slope argument to be made here I have some tinfoil hats for you as I understand they help prevent evil organizations from brainwashing you, they might help calm you down. 2. It's just a stupid scarf, a premium scarf, and a "bonus" at that for people who invest in the discount plat void grind skipping package deal for a lot of monies. At the end of the day nothing that affects gameplay is locked behind a "pay wall" and if the extraneous cosmetics mean that much to you then buy the package or don't. Those are really your only options at this juncture. What else does the $140 package include aside from the resource collector, the scarf, and Ember Prime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilemyre Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 (edited) Exclusives are fine and all, truth of the matter is, the current rendition of 'prime access' is a slap in the face to founders. I even brought additional plat in preparation for scarves, and now to get the best looking scarf is locked behind US$140. How many people do you think would buy a significant amount of plat randomly again DE? Thank you! This is exactly what a lot of people have been getting at, it isn't about being some beggar or mooch. The issue is, is that this has been nothing but a slap to founders and DEs attempt to shed out more cash for "limited" items. Hell at this point I kinda wish everyone had a chance at excal prime if DE plans to go down this route expecting people to pay stupid amounts for an exclusive cosmetic. So I bet you are the type of people who complain Ferrari's are too expensive? Yeah they cost millions but they do the same thing as a beat up junker. They drive you places. One is just cosmetically beat than the other. Of course Ferrari are expensive because they cost so damn much to build and making copies of those cars are even more expensive. While a cosmetic at a stupid price is absurd because one model is made and that is it. The file can be duplicated for each account server sided that purchases it. Terrible analogy. Edited November 27, 2013 by Blk_Mage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gestalt Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 If Ember prime is only accessible this way I'm going to be so upset. If Ember Prime were to be only accessible this way, than at least there'd be some bloody consistency in these packages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CloudPies Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Of course Ferrari are expensive because they cost so damn much to build and making copies of those cars are even more expensive. While a cosmetic at a stupid price is absurd because one model is made and that is it. The file can be duplicated for each account server sided that purchases it. Terrible analogy. Its more like putting a deposit with Ferrari, then getting told you can't use that money for the new model. Not great marketing by any means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts