Kamal965 Posted March 11, 2014 Author Share Posted March 11, 2014 Oh please if anyone needs a buff its Volt to his Base speed Please, create your own Volt buff thread. This is for Loki. That being said, we might as well turn this into CommunistFrame and unify all hp, shields, armor and speed values among every frame. After reading through the thread, I'm giving my upvote Upvote to your upvote! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CM-Syein Posted March 11, 2014 Share Posted March 11, 2014 Ash: *crying in a corner* People picked Loki even when Ash have higher shield/health than him, now you making Loki having higher shield and same health as Ash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shut Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 This thread. I like it. Hopefully one of the devs reads it, gets it, and sees to it that what needs to be fixed gets fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killerdude8 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 LOL No. If you are worried about Health and Shields as a Loki, You are doing it wrong. lrn2loki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nintega Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 You know, at first I thought this was just some silly-&#! sarcastic thread. But with the Rhino Prime thing, I realize you have a good point. inb4 Loki Prime has 150 shields, 100 health, and 190 armor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beheader87 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Maybe just remove Loki from game and buff Ash? #AshMasterRace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamal965 Posted March 12, 2014 Author Share Posted March 12, 2014 Ash: *crying in a corner* People picked Loki even when Ash have higher shield/health than him, now you making Loki having higher shield and same health as Ash? You're right! Buff Ash's speed and shields too! LOL No. If you are worried about Health and Shields as a Loki, You are doing it wrong. lrn2loki Invisibility is for scrubs, okay. Agility is what keeps me alive. Also, let's see... "If you're worried about being fast as a Rhino, then you're doing it wrong" should also apply, right? Oh wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohmlink Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Ash: *crying in a corner* People picked Loki even when Ash have higher shield/health than him, now you making Loki having higher shield and same health as Ash? If your frame is not DE approved, then you just have to live with being mediocre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiiat Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 DE just wants everyone to use Rhino Prime to cut down on texture/model storage. Then the whole game will run faster, not just Loki. that... might just be crazy and Digitally Extreme enough to be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyunsai Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Nah, they will buff Nova shield and health to 150 and increases Rhino speed to 1.25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatpig84 Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Good Lokis don't use invisibility. They use radial disarm. Using invisibility only gets my team and the cyropod dying faster. Even if you nerf invisibility (and buff something else), I could care for less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamal965 Posted March 12, 2014 Author Share Posted March 12, 2014 Good Lokis don't use invisibility. They use radial disarm. Using invisibility only gets my team and the cyropod dying faster. Even if you nerf invisibility (and buff something else), I could care for less. Exactly. Now give us our 150 base shields and health, DE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monolake Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Swindle helmet should give CC immunity and Radial disarm should do 800 damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oriviagene Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Buff his hp and shield? Nope... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sev7n Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Majority of this thread doesn't know how to play loki, so instead of giving an un needed buff to him delete ur loki's and move on to easier frames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otaiken Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) Majority of this thread doesn't know how to play loki, so instead of giving an un needed buff to him delete ur loki's and move on to easier frames New proposal, give Loki needed buff AND 150 shields and HP as a bonus. Surely we can all agree on that. Edited March 12, 2014 by LocoWithGun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sev7n Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 and why does he need a buff? cause you don't know how to avoid damage on him? cause that does not mean he needs more hp and shields it just means u need to l2p loki or move on to new frame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otaiken Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Sure we know how to avoid damage with Loki. But we would like to avoid damage and have 150 shields and HP, is it that hard to understand? Since we avoid all the damage anyway it won't make much difference. But 150 is much nicer.. rounder number for a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyranness Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) Honestly giving Loki Prime the buff like Rhino Prime has the buff. . .isn't that bad. That being said I use Swindle to have even lower health and use only radar and speed mods. But giving it to normal Loki is a bit too heavy on the entitlement outrage. Edited March 12, 2014 by TyrantBelial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaleRoar Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 In my opinion, instead of Sprint Speed or shields or health, Loki Prime should just get higher power duration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zardust Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 Screw that. I don't need more health and shields. All I want them to do, since they did it for Rhino, is make Loki Prime have his sprint speed multiplier jacked up even higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulEchelon Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 There's already a simple solution to this. Play Ash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamal965 Posted March 12, 2014 Author Share Posted March 12, 2014 and why does he need a buff? cause you don't know how to avoid damage on him? cause that does not mean he needs more hp and shields it just means u need to l2p loki or move on to new frame Your argument can also apply to Rhino. Why should he have a higher sprint speed, when he can completely negate any incoming damage and absorb it for his team with Iron Skin, along with his 1k+ shields? He doesn't need a higher sprint speed to avoid damage, yet... here he is, with the highest sprint speed alongside Loki. So, for the sake of balance, give Loki 150 base shields! So what if I can dodge damage with my speed and invisibility? So can Rhino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sev7n Posted March 12, 2014 Share Posted March 12, 2014 (edited) Sprint speed hardly effects any gameplay if any at all, adding more health and shields will effect gameplay and gives more power to a frame. How stupid do you have to be to believe that rhino's sprint speed is gamebreaking and makes him completely op. And if you really want to see how "op" your rhino is try going to endless survival/defense where mobs hit lvl100+ then tell me how much better his iron skin and 1k+ shields/health are compared to loki's invisibility/radial disarm and 500- shields/health Edited March 12, 2014 by Sev7n Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamal965 Posted March 12, 2014 Author Share Posted March 12, 2014 Edit: Rhino is built to endure damage, with his 150 base shields and Iron Skin. He's meant to absorb the damage for his team. He doesn't need to be the fastest frame in the game to dodge said damage (and rush), alongside absorbing it. Yet, here we are now - with him tied with Loki for fastest. Loki, on the other hand, has the agility and Invisibility to dodge damage, without absorbing it. He is arguably the most fragile warframe in the game, yet he doesn't even have the advantage of being the fastest anymore. Buffing his shields to 150 base will solve this problem. So, DE, you can deduce two things from this post: Either a.) nerf Rhino Prime's speed or b.) Take this sarcastic post seriously and buff Loki's shields. There is no "wait for Loki Prime," as that's literally months away. No one is waiting months for a balance fix, guys. My Loki-exclusive clan certainly isn't. Seriously, though, nerfing Rhino Prime is a better option. And easier, too. Updated the OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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