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Zaresin

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One tweet from one person means jack ****. Source, please.

 

http://berkerynoyes.com/

 

I would trust them over a DE at the moment..that is the parent company that made that twitter post...

 

an investment firm making an aquisition announcement is NOT GOOD.  Specially when they were involved.

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Renegade343

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I have an idea: 

 

What if DE(L) makes a strategic alliance with PWE instead of DE(L) selling its outstanding stocks to PWE?

 

That way, DE(L) can allocate some resources to PWE in exchange for PWE's money, while keeping both of their ownerships intact?

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Wynn

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I have an idea: 

 

What if DE(L) makes a strategic alliance with PWE instead of DE(L) selling its outstanding stocks to PWE?

 

That way, DE(L) can allocate some resources to PWE in exchange for PWE's money, while keeping both of their ownerships intact?

Problem is PWE not passive when they are part of a game, and tend to force their will on Dev teams.

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WindKitsune

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I don't know if this is true or not....but if it is, I'm sure I'll end up abandoning Warframe. Too bad, this one does stand out from the rest of the gaming market andthe one one I've stayed in even with all the grinding. Because I like DE and the community.

 

If it does indeed end up being sold, Warframe will most likely lose most of its players.

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Guys, I'm sure by now, after this 309th page, DE knows how we the community feel about the matter. Not trying to sound naive, but I doubt this "deal" will happen. no company has acknowledged anything yet and DE has 40 days to decide.  If anything does happen, the Chinese company would only get a small portion, not enough to have any control over Warframe. I say wait and see what happens.

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300+ pages in less than 1 full day....insane ;p.

I think I can say that this is the biggest thread on the forums (judging on growth speed)

Lol yep, I saw this thread last night with only a couple comments in, then proceeded to go to bed. Woke up, made some coffee, turned on my laptop, then almost choked on my coffee as it showed it had 200+ pages already. xD

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Renegade343

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Problem is PWE not passive when they are part of a game, and tend to force their will on Dev teams.

PWE does not have to be part of the game. All PWE needs to do is exchange some of its cash for some of DE's resources (manpower, maybe parts of the Evolution Engine, game design knowledge etc.), while allowing both to continue creating their own games independently. 

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So this post is just going to be sucked into the Threadnaught as it speeds towards a digital singularity. But I want to bring up this post that was brought up on r/warframe

 

https://www.facebook.com/digitalextremes/posts/10152197916298461

 

DE is opening a branch in California, and from the post it looks like the California site will be focusing on Warframe. It would make no sense that DE's higher ups would decide to break ground in California for their flagship title, and less then a week later decide to sell the whole thing off.

 

It's because DE isn't selling Warframe to anyone. China has very different laws from the rest of the world, and it has been brought up time and time again that China doesn't do business with outside entities without a Chinese company representing them. DE is selling a portion of their shares to PW in order for PW to represent them so they can make progress into getting into china when XB1 is released there. DE will then most likely take the money they obtain in the selling of shares and use that to seed the new California branch.

 

I was as outraged as the lot of you when I first heard the news, but now that the rage in me has subsided and I can look at things clearly as a rational person, it becomes more and more clear that we are all over-reacting to the news. Is this panic justifiable given the the track record of PW? Sure, but if you can look past this and at the bigger picture I think you can see it as what it is.

 

 

DE, its safe to say that your gamers have spoken. None of us want any PW hands or anyone associated with them near your games, ESPECIALLY Warframe. You've done so well as you are, done so much good and great things. You don't need them. We need you! Please! For the love of this game and the thousands of us who've spent close to a 1000 hours on this game (I've just clocked 1140 on my account, and I'm happy to say I've made that milestone). I've stuck on with this game because you've given us so many new things and so much improvements over the past year that I've played. I've never seen a game like this, never in my life have I dedicated so much gaming time to one game. You've given me so much fun with it! And I stay on because you guys show us so much great things to come in the future! Updates, weapons, warframes, new game types, enemies, and so much more. I've had such a fun ride playing this game, and I can't say I'd stay on if I see that PW has any influence in it.

 

We've all seen what they've done to their gaming companies. Sucked them dry or made them so unapproachable that the games die out. They're a Pay 2 Win kind of company, no doubt. You've ALWAYS promised us that Warframe will be a PLAY 2 Win game! You may say to yourself that you'll hold on to control of the company and its projects, but what if your stockholders say otherwise? You're at the behest of these stockholders, DE, and if the majority of your stocks are controlled by PW, they'll be pulling the strings before you even know it. I know how business works, I'm a Business Major, (and yet I find the time to play this game, despite hours of studying I have to do).

 

If I see one stupid lottery ticket system or a damn lottery machine or ANYTHING REMOTELY related to PW or their evil influence, you can kiss the majority of your gamers goodbye. Look at the responses this thread is exploding with, you know just as well as I do that this will happen. Many of these gamers have been on here since day one, they've supported you WITH THEIR OWN money and time and given YOU feedback that you've used to improve the game. The Voice of the Gamers are what have helped to guide you, and you've been gracious enough to help improve the game as you and we think would be good. You've done what most studios fail to do, you LISTEN to your gamers, you LISTEN to the people that actually play the game, you LISTEN to the people that put in the time and money to help make YOUR GAME better. It's been so much fun helping you make this game into something so expansive and wonderful, and when I look at Warframe, I see so much potential, yet I see so much progress. We have come a long way, DE, together, through this game, and its been one wild ride. The last thing I want to say is that I got off the ride because some greedy punk decided to bully DE into doing what they wanted.

 

Is that what you want? For the content of this game to be slandered and corrupted by PW influence? For all the progress that we, as a gaming community, and you, the makers of this wonderful game called Warframe, to be completely erased and raped by the money schemes and demands of PW? We've done so much together DE, fought through hard times and worked our asses off to make sure this game gets to where it needs to. WE, not THEM, US together.

 

I express deep concern for you DE, don't fall into the grasp of PW, no matter WHAT they say or WHAT they offer.

 

We all await your response DE, don't leave us hanging, and please don't betray us to those people.

 

I admit that the way the headlines in the various sites seem to indicate the latter's worry, but it does not rule out that the prior might be the reason for this actually happening. I know about PW's reputation and even if I don't, many players have made it very clear of its reputation. 

 

But my question is, why PW? Unless there really is no other company that is capable of representing DE in China, I suppose the bulk of the community here would have been.....less worked out if it were any other company with a less notorious reputation representing DE.

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Wynn

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PWE does not have to be part of the game. All PWE needs to do is exchange some of its cash for some of DE's resources (manpower, maybe parts of the Evolution Engine, game design knowledge etc.), while allowing both to continue creating their own games independently. 

But PWE never done hands off with a game before PWE it is all about acquiring online game and taking over or forcing the game company to change so much for the sake of money that it kills the soul of the games.

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GreveszHUN

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DE Please no, dont do this. this is my favourite game and im play since the closed beta and i dont want to lose this game and this game is gave me so many good times i dont want to lose that good memories. Please just dont do this!

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Zaresin

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PWE does not have to be part of the game. All PWE needs to do is exchange some of its cash for some of DE's resources (manpower, maybe parts of the Evolution Engine, game design knowledge etc.), while allowing both to continue creating their own games independently. 

 

In a perfect world sure that is how it would work....in PWE however that is not how they operate.  

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But PWE never done hands off with a game before PWE it is all about acquiring online game and taking over or forcing the game company to change so much for the sake of money that it kills the soul of the games.

Since DE(L) seems to be in control of this business decision (based on the sources), DE(L) can issue such a restriction if PWE does want to work with/invest in DE(L). Although the amount of cash (assuming all of this is paid in cash) may be lower as a result, at least DE(L) still retains full ownership while being able to enter the Chinese gamer market (though most likely at a slight reduced effectiveness). 

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