Tengu-musume Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 what was my mistake? Calling a fake thing fake? I fail to see how that was a mistake. Im sorry if you thought it was vague, but all the information needed was there in my post, But I guess I did make a mistake in that I didnt make it comprehensible for children. Ill use shorter words and better picture next time so that you can understand them. and thanks I love Japan and cant wait to move there after college :) heres a little video for you to enjoy once you matured past the mental capacity of a 10 year old :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woDE4Ah9zFQ you keep doing this. you make a mistake and defend it. you're not mature enough to admit that people can't read your mind when you make a one word post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-Ancient Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Just in case, I'm gonna send link to sevral WF staff members/devs. Let your voices and concerns be heard, Tenno! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)infuriatedplayer Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Really? Well i can`t blame you. I`d bought a lot of stuff too, if i had the cash... up to this point i regret nothing spent on Warframe. If they do infact conduct business with PWE, i`m gonna feel differently about this... agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iChauncey Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I'm going to play in traffic if this goes through. Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyperius Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Also, if "outstanding" actually means floating & unrestricted shares, there's always the chance that DE has only made 49% or less of its shares available (and left the rest restricted). Which would be fine because PWE wouldn't own the company. That's under the assumption that the people making financial decisions WANT to keep DE Ltd. It doesn't matter what kind of starry eyed ambition the developers spilled to us on the devstreams. Warm and fuzzy? Yes. But keep in mind that they're just employees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tengu-musume Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Cool your jets friendo. I've never seen anyone throw the term white knight around so much simply because not everyone despises DE and how WF is developed. I get the impression you actually hate the game, which begs the question as to why you really care about the forums. Much less calling out people and starting fights. I don't hate Warframe. It has so much potential. I hate what DE is doing (more like not doing) with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalo1993 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 (edited) Yeah, just finished reading through the definition of outstanding shares. Outstanding shares do not comprise 100% of a company's shares, not by a longshot (unless the company went full public and unrestricted 100% of its shares). Outstanding just means floating and unrestricted shares, and DE as the company holds control of the % of shares which are unrestricted. This means that they could have made 49% or less of their shares unrestricted/floating, meaning that PWE is likely not buying 100% of shares. My guess is that DE wants to remain as the owner of their own company and have authority over design decisions, in which case PWE is literally just investing money by buying the outstanding (floating/unrestricted) shares. If I had to hazard a guess, I'd guess this number would be anywhere between 5 and 25% of total shares. PWE is only getting as many shares as DE is willing to sell. DE can still restrict as many shares as they want to prevent PWE from buying them all. If this is the case then I think the community would may be fine with that probably would still complain about it. Edited July 2, 2014 by Nalo1993 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePyromage Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Yeah, just finished reading through the definition of outstanding shares. Outstanding shares do not comprise 100% of a company's shares, not by a longshot (unless the company went full public and unrestricted 100% of its shares). Outstanding just means floating and unrestricted shares, and DE as the company holds control of the % of shares which are unrestricted. This means that they could have made 49% or less of their shares unrestricted/floating, meaning that PWE is likely not buying 100% of shares. My guess is that DE wants to remain as the owner of their own company and have authority over design decisions, in which case PWE is literally just investing money by buying the outstanding (floating/unrestricted) shares. If I had to hazard a guess, I'd guess this number would be anywhere between 5 and 25% of total shares. PWE is only getting as many shares as DE is willing to sell. DE can still restrict as many shares as they want to prevent PWE from buying them all. We can only hope that it is the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otaiken Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Nobody is abandoning Warframe yet. People will just be cautious.. which is fair enough. There's something about DE that you want to support them, which imho affects a lot of purchases. Any affiliation with PWE would throw that right out of the window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Methanoid Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Sup. Suspending any spendings on WF until final word is heard. IF acquisition is confirmed: deleting account, uninstalling game, forgetting it ever existed. im also hoping not because i havent found a substitute just yet, left ME3-MP for here and so far havent found anything similar to fall back on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feallike Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Yeah, just finished reading through the definition of outstanding shares. Outstanding shares do not comprise 100% of a company's shares, not by a longshot (unless the company went full public and unrestricted 100% of its shares). Outstanding just means floating and unrestricted shares, and DE as the company holds control of the % of shares which are unrestricted. This means that they could have made 49% or less of their shares unrestricted/floating, meaning that PWE is likely not buying 100% of shares. My guess is that DE wants to remain as the owner of their own company and have authority over design decisions, in which case PWE is literally just investing money by buying the outstanding (floating/unrestricted) shares. If I had to hazard a guess, I'd guess this number would be anywhere between 5 and 25% of total shares. PWE is only getting as many shares as DE is willing to sell. DE can still restrict as many shares as they want to prevent PWE from buying them all. TD;LR PWE can't own this game. So even if its true, it won't change the game whatsoever. PANIC is dead. stop worrying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MultimediaCarl Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Yeah, just finished reading through the definition of outstanding shares. Outstanding shares do not comprise 100% of a company's shares, not by a longshot (unless the company went full public and unrestricted 100% of its shares). Outstanding just means floating and unrestricted shares, and DE as the company holds control of the % of shares which are unrestricted. This means that they could have made 49% or less of their shares unrestricted/floating, meaning that PWE is likely not buying 100% of shares. My guess is that DE wants to remain as the owner of their own company and have authority over design decisions, in which case PWE is literally just investing money by buying the outstanding (floating/unrestricted) shares. If I had to hazard a guess, I'd guess this number would be anywhere between 5 and 25% of total shares. PWE is only getting as many shares as DE is willing to sell. DE can still restrict as many shares as they want to prevent PWE from buying them all. RNGesus ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZephyrPhantom Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 (edited) That's under the assumption that the people making financial decisions WANT to keep DE Ltd. It doesn't matter what kind of starry eyed ambition the developers spilled to us on the devstreams. Warm and fuzzy? Yes. But keep in mind that they're just employees. Good point. If the higher-ups don't care, we could still lose Warframe to PWE even if it brought a small amount of shares to begin with. TD;LR PWE can't own this game. So even if its true, it won't change the game whatsoever. PANIC is dead. stop worrying. TL;DR - We shouldn't worry at all about potential executive meddling. Makes sense. Edited July 2, 2014 by ZephyrPhantom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Letter13 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Reiterating what I just said since a lot of people are quoting my older response to someone saying outstanding is 100%, which it is not. Yeah, just finished reading through the definition of outstanding shares. Outstanding shares do not comprise 100% of a company's shares, not by a longshot (unless the company went full public and unrestricted 100% of its shares). Outstanding just means floating and unrestricted shares, and DE as the company holds control of the % of shares which are unrestricted. This means that they could have made 49% or less of their shares unrestricted/floating, meaning that PWE is likely not buying 100% of shares. My guess is that DE wants to remain as the owner of their own company and have authority over design decisions, in which case PWE is literally just investing money by buying the outstanding (floating/unrestricted) shares. If I had to hazard a guess, I'd guess this number would be anywhere between 5 and 25% of total shares. PWE is only getting as many shares as DE is willing to sell. DE can still restrict as many shares as they want to prevent PWE from buying them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoggDog117 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Yeah, just finished reading through the definition of outstanding shares. Outstanding shares do not comprise 100% of a company's shares, not by a longshot (unless the company went full public and unrestricted 100% of its shares). Outstanding just means floating and unrestricted shares, and DE as the company holds control of the % of shares which are unrestricted. This means that they could have made 49% or less of their shares unrestricted/floating, meaning that PWE is likely not buying 100% of shares. My guess is that DE wants to remain as the owner of their own company and have authority over design decisions, in which case PWE is literally just investing money by buying the outstanding (floating/unrestricted) shares. If I had to hazard a guess, I'd guess this number would be anywhere between 5 and 25% of total shares. PWE is only getting as many shares as DE is willing to sell. DE can still restrict as many shares as they want to prevent PWE from buying them all. Here's more hope from Letter13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renegade343 Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Yeah, just finished reading through the definition of outstanding shares. Outstanding shares do not comprise 100% of a company's shares, not by a longshot (unless the company went full public and unrestricted 100% of its shares). Outstanding just means floating and unrestricted shares, and DE as the company holds control of the % of shares which are unrestricted. This means that they could have made 49% or less of their shares unrestricted/floating, meaning that PWE is likely not buying 100% of shares. My guess is that DE wants to remain as the owner of their own company and have authority over design decisions, in which case PWE is literally just investing money by buying the outstanding (floating/unrestricted) shares. If I had to hazard a guess, I'd guess this number would be anywhere between 5 and 25% of total shares. PWE is only getting as many shares as DE is willing to sell. DE can still restrict as many shares as they want to prevent PWE from buying them all. What I fear from this is the potential buy-out led by Perfect World Ltd. later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iChauncey Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Yeah, just finished reading through the definition of outstanding shares. Outstanding shares do not comprise 100% of a company's shares, not by a longshot (unless the company went full public and unrestricted 100% of its shares). Outstanding just means floating and unrestricted shares, and DE as the company holds control of the % of shares which are unrestricted. This means that they could have made 49% or less of their shares unrestricted/floating, meaning that PWE is likely not buying 100% of shares. My guess is that DE wants to remain as the owner of their own company and have authority over design decisions, in which case PWE is literally just investing money by buying the outstanding (floating/unrestricted) shares. If I had to hazard a guess, I'd guess this number would be anywhere between 5 and 25% of total shares. PWE is only getting as many shares as DE is willing to sell. DE can still restrict as many shares as they want to prevent PWE from buying them all. You Keep Getting Our Hopes Up Then Shooting Them Down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsydeFX Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Yeah, just finished reading through the definition of outstanding shares. Outstanding shares do not comprise 100% of a company's shares, not by a longshot (unless the company went full public and unrestricted 100% of its shares). Outstanding just means floating and unrestricted shares, and DE as the company holds control of the % of shares which are unrestricted. This means that they could have made 49% or less of their shares unrestricted/floating, meaning that PWE is likely not buying 100% of shares. My guess is that DE wants to remain as the owner of their own company and have authority over design decisions, in which case PWE is literally just investing money by buying the outstanding (floating/unrestricted) shares. If I had to hazard a guess, I'd guess this number would be anywhere between 5 and 25% of total shares. PWE is only getting as many shares as DE is willing to sell. DE can still restrict as many shares as they want to prevent PWE from buying them all. Thank you sir, for keeping hope alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WERElektro Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Yeah, just finished reading through the definition of outstanding shares. Outstanding shares do not comprise 100% of a company's shares, not by a longshot (unless the company went full public and unrestricted 100% of its shares). Outstanding just means floating and unrestricted shares, and DE as the company holds control of the % of shares which are unrestricted. This means that they could have made 49% or less of their shares unrestricted/floating, meaning that PWE is likely not buying 100% of shares. My guess is that DE wants to remain as the owner of their own company and have authority over design decisions, in which case PWE is literally just investing money by buying the outstanding (floating/unrestricted) shares. If I had to hazard a guess, I'd guess this number would be anywhere between 5 and 25% of total shares. PWE is only getting as many shares as DE is willing to sell. DE can still restrict as many shares as they want to prevent PWE from buying them all. Sounds... tolerate-able. I'm still scared that there might be major changes. I.... I just couldn't live with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitioner Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 If this is the case then I think the community would be fine with that. Am I the only one truly skeptical about having that kind of "investor" and regarding PW actually being satisfied into simply buying up to 25%? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deydreus Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Please, end this rumors. Please, don't make me leave this game. Please, don't make me regret my support... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senketsu_ Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Cool your jets friendo. I've never seen anyone throw the term white knight around so much simply because not everyone despises DE and how WF is developed. I get the impression you actually hate the game, which begs the question as to why you really care about the forums. Much less calling out people and starting fights. yeah he hate the fact they the Tenno are model related to asian culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDRLOz Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 Yeah, just finished reading through the definition of outstanding shares. Outstanding shares do not comprise 100% of a company's shares, not by a longshot (unless the company went full public and unrestricted 100% of its shares). Outstanding just means floating and unrestricted shares, and DE as the company holds control of the % of shares which are unrestricted. This means that they could have made 49% or less of their shares unrestricted/floating, meaning that PWE is likely not buying 100% of shares. My guess is that DE wants to remain as the owner of their own company and have authority over design decisions, in which case PWE is literally just investing money by buying the outstanding (floating/unrestricted) shares. If I had to hazard a guess, I'd guess this number would be anywhere between 5 and 25% of total shares. PWE is only getting as many shares as DE is willing to sell. DE can still restrict as many shares as they want to prevent PWE from buying them all. However we have no idea what % is in restricted shares. It could be something like 10%. It is optimistic to believe that DE will still have 51%+ shares in their company available. We can dream... we can dream... But unless you are DE or an investor in the company already we just wont know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Microfridge Posted July 2, 2014 Share Posted July 2, 2014 I'm really sad now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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