Ketec Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 All this talk about " its just for fun" and there wont be exclusive rewards - but now, Decisive Judgement is a pvp exclusive reward - it only drops from specters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detheroc Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Yes. I was about to make a topic asking why PvP has a direct impact on PvE, namely which clan gets the rail and how much taxes there will be. And now this is there aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noveltyhero Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I am guessing this was an oversight when PVP came as were many other things, will probably be fixed at one point :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sekushiiandee Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 been like that even with pve DS though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphafox Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) been like that even with pve DS though DS was not pvp before though. The problem is that specters can only appear in DS, which make Decisive judgement pvp exclusive. It's probably just a oversight from them. Edited August 13, 2014 by Alphafox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casardis Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) Just like how DE didn't think the lore through for the Dark Sector conflicts (they admitted that in a Devstream saying that they want to work on presenting the conflicts as some kind of ritual, but that was brought upon only after the many topics asking for an explanation), I personally won't be surprised that it's because they didn't think this through again (oversight). Either it's that or they somehow think that "use the trade" is a legitimate alternative. I don't like making such assumptions, but while there are lots of things I love about Warframe (I won't be playing over 1500 hours if not), they make some questionable decisions at times, while taking a long time to finally cover them (or sometimes not at all). Edited August 13, 2014 by Casardis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samoth95 Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Yeah, this is probably just accidentally in the blast radius. Decisive Judgement was in DS Conflict before it became PvP. Now you just have to tolerate the randoms...or manage to co-ordinate 7 friends and get lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MariAnnette Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) All this talk about " its just for fun" and there wont be exclusive rewards - but now, Decisive Judgement is a pvp exclusive reward - it only drops from specters. Decisive judgement has always dropped from spectres, even when the rails were PVE. Here's the catch though and several of my clanmates can verify this, if you pick one up doing a rail conflict, you don't get to keep it. Edited August 13, 2014 by MariAnnette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katinka Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 You can transmute for it. Before anyone says you shouldn't have to transmute, your right, but Shield Flux is in the same boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketec Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share Posted August 13, 2014 in pve DS - you could actually farm it, now you have to deal with the pvp - which is a no go for some players. Tho i don't care about the mod, i had it minutes after release anyways ( even sold a few a bit later). I just don't like the subtle hints at pvp affecting pve instead of staying 100% separate ( some weapon adjustments got a smell of pvp as well). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sekushiiandee Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 (edited) there are threads out there asking for DS pve option for players so that they can support their alliances without the need of pvp....or just so they can farm for decisive judgment but i do agree with you that they turned the stance into a pvp exclusive reward.....a lot of people viewed DS pve as pvp as well....it was not direct player vs player...but it was an indirection view of pvp through mission completion but in a sense it was just like before....except the specters are clumsy players with different weapon loadouts instead of AI controlled i think the AI controlled specters are scarier than the real players sometimes but pvp exclusive = not cool Edited August 13, 2014 by sekushiiandee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFOLoche Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Well, first, weren't they saying they were working on putting in a PVE alternative to the Dark Sector? Second, if I recall, not only does PVP rarely(if ever) give you the mods you earn from specters(Which would make this point moot), but on top of that, you can get it from transmutation. Thus, it's not PVP exclusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaugahn Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I just don't like the subtle hints at pvp affecting pve instead of staying 100% separate ( some weapon adjustments got a smell of pvp as well). Really, which ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burns2PvP Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 All this talk about " its just for fun" and there wont be exclusive rewards - but now, Decisive Judgement is a pvp exclusive reward - it only drops from specters. Because there needs to be some sort of pain for this? You think people will go running rail unopposed or there will be a PvP conflict? In the past scott said that warframe was going to be switching over to a little more PvP focused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WERElektro Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Specters aren't really other players though.... But I understand that they can only be encountered in Dark sector fights. However.. I don't see how this is a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sekushiiandee Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Specters aren't really other players though.... But I understand that they can only be encountered in Dark sector fights. However.. I don't see how this is a problem. ^ people just dont like pvp.....in a coop game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFOLoche Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 ^ people just dont like pvp.....in a coop game Then TRANSMUTE it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WERElektro Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 ^ people just dont like pvp.....in a coop game But .... thousands of players were crying for PvP when pvp wasn't available... not even conclaves. Now That it's here, thousands of players go all BAAAAWWWW and want it to be removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sekushiiandee Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 But .... thousands of players were crying for PvP when pvp wasn't available... not even conclaves. Now That it's here, thousands of players go all BAAAAWWWW and want it to be removed. ^ thousands of players cry for pvp yes....yet thousands of other players do not want pvp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
03-AALIYAH- Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 trade for it/thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sekushiiandee Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 trade for it /thread ^ i am one of the people who prefer to farm for items than trade them though if it gets really really bad i might consider it.....but that would only apply to gleaming talon or contagious spread but decisive judgment isnt all too rare so i would just want to farm that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketec Posted August 13, 2014 Author Share Posted August 13, 2014 Because there needs to be some sort of pain for this? You think people will go running rail unopposed or there will be a PvP conflict? In the past scott said that warframe was going to be switching over to a little more PvP focused sigh. anyone knows any warframe like great coop pve game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaugahn Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 sigh. anyone knows any warframe like great coop pve game? Yeah, Warframe. Just don't click on the PvP nodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RSITH Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Yep it's pretty rare now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sekushiiandee Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 sigh. anyone knows any warframe like great coop pve game? ^ it is still great...just ignore the pvp the plus side is that there are two nikana stances just farm for tranquil cleave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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