[DE]Momaw Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 On the one hand, its magazine or ammo pack or whatever makes it go bang is in the stock. But on the other hand, it is a heavy full length rifle that appears to gain nothing from this placement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morec0 Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 I think it should be considered a gun. *cocks* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-QueenUnicorn- Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 sir you are right it is a bullpup design, but that's what causes it to be what it is, just because its bullpup does not mean its lighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Grzegorz Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Do all bullpup weapons need to be short? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Momaw Posted October 4, 2014 Author Share Posted October 4, 2014 Do all bullpup weapons need to be short? Name any real life bullpup style weapons that are not shorter than than their traditional counterparts. The functional intent of a bullpup design is not to "look cool"; moving the magazine and action behind the trigger allows for a normal length barrel in a more compact and easier to maneuver package. That's why I'm asking if Tiberon should be considered bullpup. It has one of the characteristics, but apparently not for the same reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noveltyhero Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 No I don't think so, it feels like more like a double barrel style reload but the thing being much much further to the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ailissa Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 You are applying a real life concept to fiction. It's not a bullpup gun, it's a fictional weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalenath Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 (edited) In actual functionality, yes. The action and magazine are behind the trigger assembly. MY question is WHY have a rifle of that length? To me, it actually looks longer than Soma and Vectis. So long, 3 individual barrels, and... shark teeth on the end? Hmmm... Wait a minute... How well would that work UNDERWATER? Long barrels MIGHT mean more time for the propellant to work, so longer range through a denser medium than air. Shark teeth MIGHT be to stab with or cut with for slower close combat under water pressure. You don't want a lot of wasted movement underwater (I trained in underwater fighting for a bit, it's HARD), so the reload might work well too. Then there is the name... Almost Spanish for 'Shark'. (Edit) Action is in front of the grip, Magazine behind. Edited October 4, 2014 by Kalenath Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ailissa Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 That settles it then. Jaws remake confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrackingBiscuit Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Name any real life bullpup style weapons that are not shorter than than their traditional counterparts. The functional intent of a bullpup design is not to "look cool"; moving the magazine and action behind the trigger allows for a normal length barrel in a more compact and easier to maneuver package. That's why I'm asking if Tiberon should be considered bullpup. It has one of the characteristics, but apparently not for the same reason. "Shorter" does not mean "short". Bullpup rifles do not need to be short. They are shorter than comparable platforms if they use the same length barrel. Bullpups do not need to use the same length barrel. Bullpups actually have an advantage in that they can be the same length as a traditional rifle but have a longer barrel and therefore greater power and accuracy. Also, short bullpups most frequently compete with carbines, and therefore they are not shorter than many of their "traditional counterparts". The British L86A2 is a heavy-barreled 5.56mm platform based on the L85/SA80. It is a bullpup weapon and is as long as other conventional rifles because of its 646mm barrel. The M107 .50 caliber rifle is 48" long with a 20" barrel. The XM500 is a bullpup successor; it it 46" long. No-one would call 2" on a 48" a significant reduction in length. The point of making the XM500 a bullpup was to keep the overall length and increase barrel length. The definition of bullpup has nothing to do with being compact. The magazine of the Tiberon is behind the trigger group; it is a bullpup. The end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalenath Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 That settles it then. Jaws remake confirmed. Triple the sharks, triple the fun! I just HAD to put his here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ailissa Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Triple the sharks, triple the fun! I just HAD to put his here... I ... I must have that gun. It must be mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattonsguy Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Name any real life bullpup style weapons that are not shorter than than their traditional counterparts. The functional intent of a bullpup design is not to "look cool"; moving the magazine and action behind the trigger allows for a normal length barrel in a more compact and easier to maneuver package. That's why I'm sking if Tiberon should be considered bullpup. It has one of the characteristics, but apparently not for the same reason. not to mention (in case of most bullpup designs) ambidextrous design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crafturtoemc Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Singapore assault rifle...SAR21 is a bullpup design Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSI_Kryptix Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 Please dont mix real life logic with game logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostSwordsman Posted October 18, 2014 Share Posted October 18, 2014 Well, that would explain the sheer amount of damage one can get the Tiberon to output. And the focus on pure damage compared to the burston/burston prime and sybaris. Longer Barrel than the latron, same or slightly greater firepower with a burst fire mechanic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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