13.42 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I think a proto skin or any new skin would make me happy, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W00DSTER Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 no thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superdk90 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) The thing is this: no amount of Dex Excaliburs or Dragon Excaliburs will ever make people who want Excalibur Prime happy. They don't want Dex Excalibur, they want Excalibur Prime. Even if you release a dozen variants, it still won't solve that problem. I thought that this may be the case. I suppose the only other solution is to put in big red letters on the front page of the forums "FOUNDERS STUFF IS EXCLUSIVE, GET OVER IT" Joke aside, i guess that there really is nothing that can be done on this issue. Also, Dragon Excal sounds AWSOME. I want one so bad now :( Edited November 25, 2014 by superdk90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UFOLoche Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) that doesn't even begin to make up for it. It's a skin, not a new frame, so the mastery issues still there, plus it's basically a slightly higher quality version of a skin they had already designed so almost no work was needed to put it out there. The only way to make up for it is to release a frame that only non-founders can have, plus two weapons, or re-release Excalibur prime. They don't have to make up for anything, if you were late to the party or unable to buy it, that's...too bad, to be blunt. I mean, you don't see me running around the forums, screaming about how they should re-release the Prime Access gear that I missed, because that'd be silly. Also, to address your earlier point, do realize that if they pulled a stunt like that, that you'd breach everyone's trust, not just Founders. I feel that a lot less people would be willing to pay for those Prime Accessories or get the big packages anymore if they realized that DE would be willing to stab them in the back for a short burst of cash. Oh, and, y'know, screwing over your core, oldest fanbase for a short term profit has very rarely, if EVER worked. Edit:On that note, it burns me every day(over-exaggerating, but I do feel a bit of a pang every time I see one) that I don't have the awesome Misa or Noru Syandanas...I still wouldn't want them to be re-released. Edited November 25, 2014 by UFOLoche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13.42 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Also, Dragon Excal sounds AWSOME. I want one so bad now :( Thanks for that. Now I want a Dragon Excalibur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalMagic Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Only if Excalibur Primus is a giant, moon-sized tenno piloted by 8 other tenno and used to fight Fomorian Ships in head-on combat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Malware Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) that doesn't even begin to make up for it. It's a skin, not a new frame, so the mastery issues still there, plus it's basically a slightly higher quality version of a skin they had already designed so almost no work was needed to put it out there. The only way to make up for it is to release a frame that only non-founders can have, plus two weapons, or re-release Excalibur prime. heres the thing. y is mastery an issue. it not that big of an xp gap. I was playing with someone who was 17 who did not have the founders exclusives. that is the exact same level . the proto armor may not make up for somethingthat doesnt need to be made up. but its exclusive none the less. and I love this. why? because I can be differentiated from everyone else. the xp wont matter. because theres 12+ weapons in the vault that put them a head of you regardless. 2 weapons and a frame will neer change that Edited November 25, 2014 by DubstepArcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaugahn Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I thought that this may be the case. I suppose the only other solution is to put in big red letters on the front page of the forums "FOUNDERS STUFF IS EXCLUSIVE, GET OVER IT" Joke aside, i guess that there really is nothing that can be done on this issue. Also, Dragon Excal sounds AWSOME. I want one so bad now :( I'm all for releasing variant skins. They should do them for all warframes. But it won't ever solve the Excal Prime issue. Nothing will. Personally, I'm glad DE is sticking to their guns on this one. It just shows that they have more integrity than the rest of the game industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Shadow_Of_Hunhow Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Despite it should be evident by the lack of badge here on the forum, please note I am no founder. From a very economical point of view, DE selling another round of Founder Packs (Maybe as a Prime Access.) would give them a lot of money. As you said, a lot of people is playing now. Hundreds, if not thousands, of people would pay even a largely overpriced amount of money for such a thing. I'm sure a scary amount of this forum users would even go as far as $1000 just to post a trollface aimed at all the founders. And even if DE would lost the trust of people who had paid for stuff, the keyword is paid, something of the past. The angered founders could do nothing but leave the game, but they had already paid and the new players could be led toward thinking that someday even the events' items could return as paid content. And, again, no one could do anything about it. That said, that's why I respect and approve of their decision. Because they choose to uphold morals rather than pursue an huge financial gain. They wouldn't lose just money, they would lose PLAYERS, aka the lifeblood off the game. I know that when I first found out about the whole founders thing, I was about to do just that. The only thing really keeping me in the game was the fact that I spent more than 10 times what founders did on it, and put in more hours then any other game in my life! Otherwise, I don't care how fun a game is, if I'm locked out of core content solely because they decided to say screw you too every PS4 player and end it right before the release, then I'd drop the game like a rock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superdk90 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 Only if Excalibur Primus is a giant, moon-sized tenno piloted by 8 other tenno and used to fight Fomorian Ships in head-on combat. *Rapidly throws money at screen* WHY IS THIS NOT WORKING?!?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W00DSTER Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 you know now that i think about when you miss out on founder packs for any game you missed no other game has given out or redone their founder packs snooze you looze exclusive for lyfe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaugahn Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 They wouldn't lose just money, they would lose PLAYERS, aka the lifeblood off the game. I know that when I first found out about the whole founders thing, I was about to do just that. The only thing really keeping me in the game was the fact that I spent more than 10 times what founders did on it, and put in more hours then any other game in my life! Otherwise, I don't care how fun a game is, if I'm locked out of core content solely because they decided to say screw you too every PS4 player and end it right before the release, then I'd drop the game like a rock. Excal Prime is not core content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuyver Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 What is so hard to understand? No means no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordOfScrugging Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 The only way to make up for it is to release a frame that only non-founders can have, plus two weapons, or re-release Excalibur prime. that is probably the stupidest thing i've ever read. saying to release something for the general public but keep founders out. founders are part of the general public. excal prime won't be re-released. also this screams "i want to be a special flower" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceBlood Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I'd love to see Excalibur Primus, especially if they go on tour. I especially like My Frame is Mud, WyNova's Big Brown Beaver, Jerry was a Racecar Viver, and Helmets Off. (I'm sorry.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13.42 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 that is probably the stupidest thing i've ever read. saying to release something for the general public but keep founders out. founders are part of the general public. excal prime won't be re-released. also this screams "i want to be a special flower" I think he meant to say that everyone can have it, not just founders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kestral9999 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 This @(*()$ topic again? Please lock this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Malware Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 This @(*()$ topic again? Please lock this... casual doomsday thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kestral9999 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I'd love to see Excalibur Primus, especially if they go on tour. I especially like My Frame is Mud, WyNova's Big Brown Beaver, Jerry was a Racecar Viver, and Helmets Off. (I'm sorry.) This is pure gold. The best thing to ever come from a founders rerelease thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcl_Blue Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 While I agree with this, one thing you have to realize is that with every day the number of founders compared to non-founders shrinks. The more new players, the more angered by the exclusivity. Eventually the ratio will be so high that founders will be insignificant compared to everyone else and DE will risk losing a lot of players over it vs a small chunk of founders. There's millions of players already, and that number is continuing to grow, DE needs to know that they stand to lose more regular players then founders with their current choice. While you do have a point on the ratio of of Founders to non-Founders becoming smaller as time goes on, it's still very silly to think DE would lose any sizeable number of players because of ONE exclusive frame. If someone is so absurdly angered by this exclusivity that they leave, that's just dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordOfScrugging Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I think he meant to say that everyone can have it, not just founders. no he said release a frame that everyone but founders can get. it seriously sounds like a kid saying they want to be special Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dummifighter Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) EXCALIBUR WRAITH FTW Maybe a vandal would do to, but black and red are to awesome Edited November 25, 2014 by dummifighter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Malware Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 EXCALIBUR WRAITH FTW Maybe a vandal would do to, but black and red are to awesome red veil excal :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13.42 Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) no he said release a frame that everyone but founders can get. it seriously sounds like a kid saying they want to be special I know, but I'd like to believe he didn't mean that, because it sounds absurd. Sorry if you did mean that, though, SCP. Edited November 25, 2014 by 13.42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvid Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) In before the lock. Edit: I'm surprised that the thread has lasted long enough for me to read through and make this edit. Edited November 25, 2014 by Corvid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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