SethSamson Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 So 1. Sound missmatch the animation of fire. 2. Slow as ... 3. Lack of proper and mighty muzzel flash. ( i would add something like gorgon has ) 4. HUUUGE energy consumption. Making this skill unusable during plain missions ( any thing else than survival or defense ). 5. I dont know how i feel about removing fire aura from under her legs .. making this ability wierd to use .. press 4 = u can't move . press LMB = just to end life of your mouse. press 4 = to move agian . Also her first ability .. is wierd .. when u get submission " Use your 1 Ability 5 times " , in truth Mesa need to use it 10 time .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgax Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 1. Haven't heard it yet. 2. Yeah the wind up is only great when you're swarming in enemies. 3.Allright. 4.Isn't it the same? My main gripe that her new skill is not fluent as previous version, after drawing guns and having enemies she sometimes refuses to shoot or stops for no reason, something is not right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormandreas Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 So 1. Sound missmatch the animation of fire. 2. Slow as ... 3. Lack of proper and mighty muzzel flash. ( i would add something like gorgon has ) 4. HUUUGE energy consumption. Making this skill unusable during plain missions ( any thing else than survival or defense ). 5. I dont know how i feel about removing fire aura from under her legs .. making this ability wierd to use .. press 4 = u can't move . press LMB = just to end life of your mouse. press 4 = to move agian . Also her first ability .. is wierd .. when u get submission " Use your 1 Ability 5 times " , in truth Mesa need to use it 10 time .. 1. The sound sounds like Revolvers so its fine. 2. It's a hold trigger, and its insanely fast 3. There is a bullet trail and 'sparks' so no need for a flash. 4. Make an efficiency build and it's FINE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evers Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 I want my old mesa back. The new one is well to say it polite, bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychus Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 I want my old mesa back. The new one is well to say it polite, bad. Really? because people were asking for full auto fire, and we got it. Seems much better to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EchoesOfRain Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Are you holding down LMB? It has a wind-up now. Simply rapid clicking will do absolutely nothing for you I do agree, though, that the energy consumption is WAY too much. even with an efficiency build I have to be very careful with Peacemakers to prevent me from running out of energy. Heck, even just turning it on and off to shoot a couple of enemies eventually takes a big toll eventually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SethSamson Posted December 6, 2014 Author Share Posted December 6, 2014 1. The sound sounds like Revolvers so its fine. 2. It's a hold trigger, and its insanely fast 3. There is a bullet trail and 'sparks' so no need for a flash. 4. Make an efficiency build and it's FINE 1. Sound missmatch meaning the sound is slower or faster than animation 2. AHA i noticed that now .. thx for info cause DE lack to inform about that change in any change log .. 3. i know that but there are sometime missing .. and any way there are not so cool .. 4. i have ALL mods for Efficiency and im talking about that .. U cant use Enegry POD u cant benefite from Trinity now .. etc etc .. so Energy Consumption is HUGE on Her . U use skill 1 . 2 . 3 and ... prrrrr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davoodoo Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 I really like that new ramp up mechanic, kinda meh on weak enemies put you can put bosses and heavy units to rest pretty quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronyn Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 I don't believe the ramp up is intentional. I think it's supposed to go straight to awesome rate of fire as soon as it's initiated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan-0-matic Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 There's nothing wrong with the fire rate... The skill is actually BETTER now! Just HOLD down on your fire button (LMB) and it speeds up very quickly depending on how many targets are in range. If she runs out of targets, release your fire button and hold it down again immediately to continuing firing super fast. I really hope they don't change anything... It's perfect now. Balanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keltik0ne Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 (edited) There's nothing wrong with the fire rate... The skill is actually BETTER now! Just HOLD down on your fire button (LMB) and it speeds up very quickly depending on how many targets are in range. If she runs out of targets, release your fire button and hold it down again immediately to continuing firing super fast. I really hope they don't change anything... It's perfect now. Balanced. When I do the release, repress it goes to the start of the wind up cycle again, and it doesn't speed up quickly unless your in a pile of infested. In which case, you usually need a rez anyway. I'll slap an edit in with this, she's still way better than a lot of frames, way worse than others in terms of skills, in terms of looks, she is far better than the last few frames. Edited December 6, 2014 by Keltik0ne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davoodoo Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 (edited) Regulators fire faster than soma, with 5k crits all the time, whats not to like?? Edited December 6, 2014 by Davoodoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
God_is_a_Cat_Girl Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 I like the full auto fire, but IMO, it needs to be polished. But I still want the old animations and sound back, or improved versions of the original animations and sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerevar22g Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 ok here is my feedback on Mesa: I agree with the removal of weird flames at her feet, but i Hate the orange filter it puts on the screen I like that you dont have to mash left mouse button to keep shooting I Hate the new sound of regulators, original sound made them feel more powerful, it was badass Also I hate that Mesa fires 2 shots regardless if the enemy dies in 1 shot or not, this also makes regulators feel weak... It was so fun watching Mesa one shot kill enemies with her badass regulators before the hotfix... I ill miss that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SethSamson Posted December 6, 2014 Author Share Posted December 6, 2014 (edited) This is what i have in mind talking about muzzle flash and how it should look BADASS Edited December 6, 2014 by SethSamson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkBlueNinja Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Old version was better for all game types, not just defense or survival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melos-mevim Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Like the guy above me I agree old version was better for all game types and factions, now its just infested on defense and survival. Also best way how I can sum up why the wind up/hold down is bad is this, the usefulness and effectiveness of the skill should not be based on how many enemies are within my range, it's effectiveness should be dictated by my skill as a player (if she fires peacemaker at a high fire rate its because I can click my mouse, or in my case pull the trigger on a remote, at a high rate of fire) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasumi- Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 1. The sound sounds like Revolvers so its fine. The sound is just a recycled sound from the Soma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTG3000 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Yeeeeah, the new power drain is just horrible. either allow us to get energy from restores or tweak the drain down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShardsSuperior Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 Other than Mesa can't get energy from EV, I can't find any changes to Mesa in the 15.5.8 patch notes. Help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SethSamson Posted December 6, 2014 Author Share Posted December 6, 2014 Yeeeeah, the new power drain is just horrible. either allow us to get energy from restores or tweak the drain down. or just give her 500 energy with Flow .. instead of 300 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTG3000 Posted December 6, 2014 Share Posted December 6, 2014 or just give her 500 energy with Flow .. instead of 300 That could work too. But I'd rather just have the energy intake on her cut down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SethSamson Posted December 7, 2014 Author Share Posted December 7, 2014 DE probably never watch a proper Western Movie and dosent know what it is Fast shooting and Quick Draw and then fast shooting by cocking the hammer by hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melos-mevim Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 DE probably never watch a proper Western Movie and dosent know what it is Fast shooting and Quick Draw and then fast shooting by cocking the hammer by hand They also probably never played a western game, I would suggest DE try call of Juarez gunslinger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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