Gemellus Posted December 16, 2014 Share Posted December 16, 2014 Because on these forums, if you can't one shot an enemy with no tactical thought, it's OP and needs a nerf immediately. Same with how if you can't one shot with any weapon, its trash and mastery fodder. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoeleVeerod Posted December 17, 2014 Author Share Posted December 17, 2014 Well, I just found out (probably not the first one to discover it) that if you pop their "INVINCIBLEGODOMFG" bubble they are vulnerable to powers. I accidentally killed a couple ones in the Void with Peacemaker. Will try with other 'Frames to check whether it's true or not. But if it's true, it could only make them appear less daunting than they seem to be now. Right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser_Suoh Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 (edited) simple they make no sense. I am ok with the power nullifier but another bullet sponge shield that can be eximus and cover a army with him thats my problem with them. Try to get your gear around a new player and go face them on jupiter you won't get to the key. This. Not everything DE do is perfect. Is only anti-fun. I want a challenge with Fun. Is all. And still the same problem, people who likes a "broken enemy", absurdly OP (the nullifier shield) Edited December 17, 2014 by Kaiser_Suoh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerevar22g Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I seriously dont understand why peolpe are crying about nullifiers, they are no threat at all, all you have to do is..... shoot them, yea i know! their shields shring and disappear very quick and they dont have anny armor or health by themselves, so whats the problem? Takes less shooting than regular heavy gunner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiser_Suoh Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I seriously dont understand why peolpe are crying about nullifiers, they are no threat at all, all you have to do is..... shoot them, yea i know! their shields shring and disappear very quick and they dont have anny armor or health by themselves, so whats the problem? Takes less shooting than regular heavy gunner So, what about Nullifier AND Heavy Gunner inside the bubble? 3 seconds to die if you want a melee fight with the nullifier. Now multiply it by 2+ of them in Survival/Defense/Interceptation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimMyfanwy Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Because it's different, and people hate change. Personally I like them... Well, I don't like them, but they and the scorch drones are a perfect counter to the Mesa.I guess what I like is the fact that DE, unlike most online games, will introduce a powerful new something which changes the game and makes it easy (i.e. Mesa in defense missions). Then, instead of nerfing it so it's fits the game, they change the game to keep the challenge.This is why I'm still playing after 18 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheErebus. Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 (I just wish he'd affect ash's BS >_>) I'm starting to think you're just waiting for me to check your posts for any Ash hate, and then you expect me to jump in and start battering you on it. I shall oblige you. ASH CANNOT STOP WILL NOT STOP. On topic: Because back then they'd just cause massive issues with players who had low RoF weapons, now though? They're fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victor_victory Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Because some people define standing still and spamming 4 as fun. Can't blame them. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. The nullifiers are not that bad anymore considering that the size of the bubble is now affected by the damage taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkyPygmy Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Because the forums are weak. Their only problem apart from the few bugs was the fact they rendered high dmg low fire rate weapons useless. But even then it was just a case of bringing a secondary to make up for that or using melee. Not hard. The forums have to have something to blow out of proportion at all times and null crewman were this months candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerevar22g Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 So, what about Nullifier AND Heavy Gunner inside the bubble? 3 seconds to die if you want a melee fight with the nullifier. Now multiply it by 2+ of them in Survival/Defense/Interceptation. you shoot the shield, it goes down in 2 seconds, nullifier dies and im hoping its not the first time you encounter a bombard.... jesus people, why are you whining all the time, oh oh I know, because you cant use your """pro build""" ash or nova to press 4 to win anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionPride Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 What Nullifier crewman? oh! the one who dies every time i slide attack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkerTheSpjot Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I don't hate them, they go down pretty quick with just a spin attack, the problem is that they also shield other enemies inside the globe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellDevil Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 SIgh hate to break it to ya, its just this generation of tennos are a little well spoiled. They don't know the hardship the old vets felt and they see this new mobs as a threat to them and their ideal of how to greedy milk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
havikryan Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Melee. yeah let me jsut melee this lvl 60 nullifier who is surrounded by techs and what not, will totally not get me instakilled... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGear Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 (edited) Yes my Valkyr hates Nullifiers so much that she channels said rage into honing her skill at cleaving them using slide melee with the Galatine. ... then again my Valkyr pretty much hates everyone that isn't Tenno. Except Sargas Ruk, because he's cool. And John Prodman, because he's John Prodman. They can nullify my powers, but they can't nullify my SWORD! Edited December 17, 2014 by LGear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oriviagene Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 (edited) those nullifier alone is not the problem,"everyone"(gunners,bombards,and those little creeps) inside their globe is the problem... Edited December 17, 2014 by Godhands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kolos1001 Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I ran up to a nullifier on a loki and it 1 shot me after it unstealthed me. Melee my &#!. Nul+bombard in t4 is suffering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinKenshin Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I'm starting to think you're just waiting for me to check your posts for any Ash hate, and then you expect me to jump in and start battering you on it. I shall oblige you. ASH CANNOT STOP WILL NOT STOP. On topic: Because back then they'd just cause massive issues with players who had low RoF weapons, now though? They're fine. I'm not expecting anything from you, I'm just saying what's true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheErebus. Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I'm not expecting anything from you, I'm just saying what's true Truth is that Ash is a good frame that can dish out devestating power. That is the truth, and you don't like it because of how useful he can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leland_Gaunt Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Because disturb the obsessive "Spam 4"-pattern that most players are suffering from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinKenshin Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Truth is that Ash is a good frame that can dish out devestating power. That is the truth, and you don't like it because of how useful he can be. I don't like him cos when you play with him, all the other warframes seem useless, and he's not good, he's OP, there's a big difference good is doing damage, taking something from the enemy, helping the team, while OP is just clearing everything with 1 key now please tell me any use of another frame if u have ash in the squad killing everything...all of your powers seem useless to his, all your ult, all you weapons, while the ash kills everything with like 25 energy, over 50m or so, and guarantee than the enemy will die......I don't know any other frame that offers this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheErebus. Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 (edited) I don't like him cos when you play with him, all the other warframes seem useless, and he's not good, he's OP, there's a big difference good is doing damage, taking something from the enemy, helping the team, while OP is just clearing everything with 1 key now please tell me any use of another frame if u have ash in the squad killing everything...all of your powers seem useless to his, all your ult, all you weapons, while the ash kills everything with like 25 energy, over 50m or so, and guarantee than the enemy will die......I don't know any other frame that offers this Seriously? You have Loki who practically makes every ranged enemy become nothing more but wimps with batons, and you dare call Ash the OP one? Loki practically makes everything go into easy mode with Radial Disarm, Hysteria is invincibility + powerful slash attacks, Nyx's chaos devastates everything and need I even mention the great Booben? Don't go around painting Ash as the only OP frame around. When clearly others can make the game go into easy mode. And hey guess what, Killing the enemies in a game where killing the enemies is primarily the only goal we have is helping the team out. Ash excels at this greatly. Edited December 17, 2014 by TheErebus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvanTheNewbie Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 I just hate the corrupted ones now because they're still the old nullifiers. Going up to melee one in the void is a hell when those napalms and gunners use their fists to knock you down, turning you into Swiss cheese while you try to get back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinKenshin Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Seriously? You have Loki who practically makes every ranged enemy become nothing more but wimps with batons, and you dare call Ash the OP one? Loki practically makes everything go into easy mode with Radial Disarm, Hysteria is invincibility + powerful slash attacks, Nyx's chaos devastates everything and need I even mention the great Booben? Don't go around painting Ash as the only OP frame around. When clearly others can make the game go into easy mode. And hey guess what, Killing the enemies in a game where killing the enemies is primarily the only goal we have is helping the team out. Ash excels at this greatly. don't worry, loki is next in my OP list, but he doesn't kill the enemies, make them useless yes, but doesn't kill them, hysteria is not very great with large high lvl crowds, makes you invincible but doesn't kill anything, nyx makes enemies fight each other.....that doesn't mean they'll get killed in the duration of chaos....vauban WAS good with only infested, his vortes is useless when there's a lot of ranged units, his Bastille is limited, anything else? and ash is still the only one that kill everything with 1 key......yes,, killing enemies helps the team, but what's the point of the team if only 1 member is doing the job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azour Posted December 17, 2014 Share Posted December 17, 2014 Just melee and get you &#! handed to you after getting knocked down by that gunner, burned by that bombard and swarmed by lazers wielding psychopaths It's easy really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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