etyn Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 T2 capture a butcher tore off my iron skin like a paper so yea can we make rhino steal some armor(from killing enemies) and add on to his ferrite armor? rhino is just a frame with golden paper armor T_T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basalto Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 A better solution is to use a decent frame, in my opinion. Also, Rhino can use ironclad charge to raise his armor, which is incredibly useful on a bunch of enemies. What was your power strenght, if I may ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etyn Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share Posted October 11, 2015 175% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etyn Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share Posted October 11, 2015 and iron clad is useless in the long run did u see the duration have u use it? it ragdolls enemies away from u and u simply cant melee em increasing armor does not mean increase survivability, rhino basically eat mana worse than any other frame and even with rage the energy return back is small Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRufus7x Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Oh no, one power doesn't scale well. He is obviously useless. You know except for the CC that stomp provides, the mobility that charge provides and the damage buff that roar provides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etyn Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share Posted October 11, 2015 and btw iron skin will be killed by laser or by enemies either way roar does not provide enough damage buff if want dmg buff use mirage cc stomp and u will see ur energy run out sure .. =w= more disadavantages stomp uses 100 energy ( nova uses 100 energy) but nova energy economy is better than rhino increasing effe while decreasing duration is bad for rhino since ulti is affected by duration, next thing even with primed flow rhino prime have about 500 energy which is about 5-7 stomps ( remember u still neeed to sue iron skin) and........ the bloody range of rhino is small as 1 room (meanwhile nova) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoirTree Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) I need only ability to color my iron skin in red or some other colors then golden. Edited October 11, 2015 by NoirTree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etyn Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share Posted October 11, 2015 rhino definitely need armor steal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRufus7x Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 and btw iron skin will be killed by laser or by enemies either way roar does not provide enough damage buff if want dmg buff use mirage cc stomp and u will see ur energy run out sure .. =w= more disadavantages stomp uses 100 energy ( nova uses 100 energy) but nova energy economy is better than rhino He is a jack of all trades, master of none. Also unmodded stomp uses 100 energy. There are very few builds that make no use of efficiency, and Rhino isn't one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etyn Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share Posted October 11, 2015 compare it to nova bro same amount of energy differen results and the results is like heaven and earth what killing rhino is ferrite armor and energy economy full stop that is my feedback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClockworkSpectre Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) Not sure what frame the OP is playing, Rhino is not nearly as weak as he seems to think. By chance does the OP not have his mods maxed? Because on my Rhino, nothing in T2 void run can take my iron skin down in one hit, not even two, it usually lasts for several minutes unless in intentionally let my self get hit. One of the problems with rhino is he is such freaking easy mode early on that lots of newer players try to facetank everything even when the levels start to get higher. Edited October 11, 2015 by ClockworkSpectre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IfritKajiTora Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 and btw iron skin will be killed by laser or by enemies either way roar does not provide enough damage buff if want dmg buff use mirage cc stomp and u will see ur energy run out sure .. =w= more disadavantages stomp uses 100 energy ( nova uses 100 energy) but nova energy economy is better than rhino increasing effe while decreasing duration is bad for rhino since ulti is affected by duration, next thing even with primed flow rhino prime have about 500 energy which is about 5-7 stomps ( remember u still neeed to sue iron skin) and........ the bloody range of rhino is small as 1 room (meanwhile nova) Use efficiency mod. Rhino Charge is good because it ragdoll enemies +with duration you can just move forward ( frame of time power : D) Iron skin - realy weak ability. even power strength on higher levels doesnt help it :/. Roar - with power strenth +75% its good enough around +80% damage of all weapons to all team for 30 seconds. Good enough. Rhino Stomp - its very effective, slowing down enemies to 2.5% speed for 9 seconds affected by power duration(Another Frame of Time power : D) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRufus7x Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 compare it to nova bro same amount of energy differen results and the results is like heaven and earth Different frames with different roles. Nova is a crowd nuker. Rhino is not. Also Nova really only gets heavy use because of her ultimate. Her kit is in no way balanced and her 1 and 2 could both use more love than Rhino needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etyn Posted October 11, 2015 Author Share Posted October 11, 2015 yea get hit by laser ba while rhino is slow as fk to escape from those laser fine watever lol this is my suggestion u can continue to point out the obvious reasons that rhino is bad which i dont mind cause u are helpng me to find out more disadvantages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRufus7x Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 yea get hit by laser ba while rhino is slow as fk to escape from those laser fine watever lol this is my suggestion u can continue to point out the obvious reasons that rhino is bad which i dont mind cause u are helpng me to find out more disadvantages LOL Rhino Prime is one of the fastest frames in the game. Upgrade bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gelkor Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Roar scales with your weapons and squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fi-le Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 T2 capture a butcher tore off my iron skin like a paper so yea can we make rhino steal some armor(from killing enemies) and add on to his ferrite armor? rhino is just a frame with golden paper armor T_T T2 CAPTURE, ARE YOU SERIOUS?!? WTF mods you have on Rhino?!?! or do you even have a mod on?! my god -_- i have ONLY Intensify and he go REALLY GOOD...at least better then you i do ALL T3/4 even surv and def (not only 10mins or 5waves, even 30-40mins and 30waves) and i go more then well check IF you put some mods on please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaIthazar Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 yea get hit by laser ba while rhino is slow as fk to escape from those laser fine watever lol this is my suggestion u can continue to point out the obvious reasons that rhino is bad which i dont mind cause u are helpng me to find out more disadvantages then don't get hit by laser ball, it's as simple as that. and besides, Death Orbs kill everything really fast, even Rhino. saying a frame is weak because of Death Orbs is stupid. they're not called 'Death' Orbs for nothing If you want a slow frame go play Frost, My Rhino outruns Lokis. as many others have pointed out, If a T2 butcher can cut through your IS, then your frame is not modded correctly. literally everyone here is trying to point out how your logic is flawed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0zryel Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 (edited) I'm sorry but I just need to ask... Are the type of players that just stand still and shot your gun or spam the 4th ability, etc..? Because in my experience even if I use Rhino with all his slowness, defensive abilities and Mods... I use back flips, rolls to every direction, switch my weapons, abilities and parkour all around the the field and rest/shot/aim from the walls as I'm fighting and I barely get hit...you know what I mean right, to rotating your arsenal of weapons, abilities or skills to adapt depending on the game difficulty and situation? Even better with Rhino Prime almost always I get 0%... unless I'm doing a T4 or T3 after 20 waves... and I'm not even close as good as some veteran players who ONLY bring melee to missions and score more than a 100 kills, 20 head-shots and almost no damage...(trying to learn to do that currently) :o I think before you start complaining about a X warframe why not try to evaluate how your playing, so you can Post useful concrete data that can actually be evaluated and tested? Edited October 11, 2015 by 0zryel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sappinmahsentry Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 How many times did the corrupted butcher hit you? IIRC butchers deal craptonnes of damage even at lower levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)supersocc11 Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Put a ton of strength/efficiency plus natural talent and you can stompy/reapply iron skin all day with no problem!! literally forever. Iron skin may only last a few seconds at really high levels but natural talent reapplies it in an instant!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kolos1001 Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Put a ton of strength/efficiency plus natural talent and you can stompy/reapply iron skin all day with no problem!! literally forever. Iron skin may only last a few seconds at really high levels but natural talent reapplies it in an instant!! Yea but then I'd have to potato...rhino...nty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Ivan of Jupiter Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 There's one thing I've learned in my time playing Warframe. Just because you don't see utility in a Warframe doesn't mean everyone else doesn't. I don like Rhino, but I have a friend that has built his Rhino into a complete monster. He can bring him into T4 survival and go ham. Not all Warframes are designed to handle high level missions. As the player, however, you have the ability to mod them to the point where they can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrsrkr Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 Iron Skin has 1200 base ferrite armor. In a T2 mission, you would be hard pressed to find non-shotgun enemies doing more than 100 damage. Which means it would take at least 12 seconds, AT BASE, for an enemy to destroy iron skin. You have significantly more than that with 175% Power Strength. You should have no problem dealing with a T2C. You need to git gud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronyn Posted October 11, 2015 Share Posted October 11, 2015 He is a jack of all trades, master of none. He isn't meant to be that. He is actually supposed to be a tank. https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/525438-need-a-rhino-rework/page-3#entry5923910 Not all Warframes are designed to handle high level missions. According to Warframe lead lead designer in a devstream some time ago there are not meant to be tiers of warframes. We are meant to choose them based on who we want to play, not at all based on who is more or less viable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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