--Q--Ascended-Seraphim Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Both game modes used to spawn enemies frequently. Now they are gone for good once you kill them. How are we supposed to farm for XP or focus now? Draco all the way? Sheesh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gryphticon Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Yeah it's annoying how they nerf everything else that isn't Draco. Draco has insane spawn rates and I feel like it should be the same in all mission types so that it's actually challenging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAZORLIGHT Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 (edited) especially since Drago isnt a very good farm spot for solo players. Edited March 7, 2016 by RAZORLIGHT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
---Greed--- Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 (edited) It was intended anyway,because some people really like stealth farm focus in spy or deception in high level area. (like me) And the way of stealth farm focus just took 40 minute or less to get 100k Focus experience. I suggest Draco with 4 people party or public,kill as many as u can when u get Focus Buff (you bring 1 Warframe & 1 Weapon only "each has lense") to get 100k & leech a bit too when they keep killing too "not running around leech and afk" Example : Loki Prime (Lv 30) "Zenurik" & Nikana Prime (Lv 30) "Zenurik" Edited March 7, 2016 by ---Greed--- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misgenesis Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Sabotage as well. Just...why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglriousB Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Because then it's easier to rush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArchPhaeton Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 An unnecesary nerf, there was already a focus cap. I'm really disappointed. I think good games should give freedom on how to accomplish your objectives and not force you into way too specific strategies. #DRACOFRAME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venon23 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 (edited) actualy is fun too go stealth love it did a few missions whithout any one see me coming with no steath frames too bad ppl only care about xp and dont actualy have fun ... Edited March 7, 2016 by venon23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jinxeverything Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 The good : You can relax a bit when you do these missions since enemies are less WHICH encourage using frames other than Loki/ Ash/ Ivara/ Nezha/ etc. The bad : Yup, we cant farm Focus points that easily now. My take : This is great because : 1. I am in Vazarin school and got the passives i needed (out of all passives, get the ones you really need, not all worth it). 2. I really like Spy and Sabotage and never liked how the spawn rate was, ever so thanks DE. My advice : Take your time with Focus, why? Its still in beta and is subject to be changed in the future, might get nerfed, might get reworked or even completely taken out since its rather unbalanced. Take it easy and enjoy the game, cant do that, take a break from this game since its not the only game out there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venon23 Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 4 minutes ago, Prinny13 said: The good : You can relax a bit when you do these missions since enemies are less WHICH encourage using frames other than Loki/ Ash/ Ivara/ Nezha/ etc. The bad : Yup, we cant farm Focus points that easily now. My take : This is great because : 1. I am in Vazarin school and got the passives i needed (out of all passives, get the ones you really need, not all worth it). 2. I really like Spy and Sabotage and never liked how the spawn rate was, ever so thanks DE. My advice : Take your time with Focus, why? Its still in beta and is subject to be changed in the future, might get nerfed, might get reworked or even completely taken out since its rather unbalanced. Take it easy and enjoy the game, cant do that, take a break from this game since its not the only game out there! yap my same idea about focus keep it calm just take it slow maybe december focus system will be cool until there just keep it calm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)SupeBoss Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 (edited) i wonder what will happen when Draco goes away. Yeah, most people will go to the next hot spot, but you have a ton of newbies and vets alike that ONLY play Draco. I think that they've dug a whole. Shoulda nerfed Draco when they had the chance. Now it's a staple of the game. People started this game over the last few months running before walking. Leveling weapons, focus, syndicate standing, and frames in one mission, then going off to play some endless void mission to test out the new goods and farm loot. They (including myself) have become accustomed to cheesing the game. You're going to have to make another loot cave that's as good as Draco. Especially after you've effectively nerfed the potential gains of every other mission type in the game. That crutch has gone from optional to highly preferred for all players. Edited March 7, 2016 by (PS4)SupeBoss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaneOfOrion Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 (edited) Doing high level endless missions for high rewards has been a staple of the game for as long as their have been endless missions. The only reason people do draco over say, cerberus is two fold, preferable resources, and a lack of a grineer nullifying unit. Add that in and you'll see maybe a little more dispersal, but honestly first we need interception only maps for A LOT of tilesets. Earth is the only one i can think of off the top of my head that has not one, but two unique maps for interception, both of which are much better designed than the defense maps used on other planets. People play draco because there's less WASD in between their murder-loot orgies. Edited March 7, 2016 by BaneOfOrion misspelled interception-gg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheP Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 NO loot cave allowed. NO fast XP farm allowed. wall of grind and RNG, and that's what I feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynxh Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 Yeah, you might want to check staff replies concerning this topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkstorm Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 2 rounds of Draco with Affinity booster and greater lens on Warframe (Excal) and weapon with a party that has a elemental buffer(s) (Saryn, Ember, Oberon) with 280% or more Power STR... Dat setup doe~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--Q--Ascended-Seraphim Posted March 7, 2016 Author Share Posted March 7, 2016 (edited) This needs to be un-nerfed. It's unnecessary long and annoying to get to the cap without draco now. Edited March 7, 2016 by --Q--Ascended-Seraphim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Tomplexthis Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 What was once a great way to farm xp is no empty and barren its like yeah, draco or no draco do you wanna level gear, or grind 30 missions over and over to reach 30 300,000 aff on draco or 1500 on anything else -_- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeformline Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 I personally really like the change. It's been something that I've wanted since I returned to Warframe a couple months ago, since it finally allows me to run stealth missions the way I've always wanted to, by carefully sniping enemies until the tile is empty, then moving on to the next one. Having enemies instantly spawn in the place of the one I just killed was frustrating when I wanted to play to the stealthy space ninja fantasy. It does make focus farming a little more difficult, but it is a wonderful change for players like me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost_Cartographer Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 (edited) ^^^ I think exploits as seen in the video above are well within DE's right and benefit to fix. Why are people even logging in anymore if that's the "game play" they'll resort to? The problem isn't lack of enemy spawns... it's that they went from hive mind to near sighted and nearly deaf. When they DO notice you, they're reluctant to hit the alarms. Once those alarms are hit though, there's even more enemies spawned than before the updates. Edited March 7, 2016 by Littleman88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadlyPeanutt Posted March 7, 2016 Share Posted March 7, 2016 6 hours ago, Prinny13 said: Take your time with Focus, why? Its still in beta and is subject to be changed in the future, might get nerfed, might get reworked or even completely taken out since its rather unbalanced. Take it easy and enjoy the game, cant do that, take a break from this game since its not the only game out there! This is where i'm at ^ Focus is not important to me... I have lenses on my main WF and main primary weapons and I just let the points rack up at their own rate. when i max my present school, i'll move onto the next one. in the same vein, I haven't even completely ranked up my arch prime wings :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostLacuna Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 Well since this ruined my favorite game mods and turned them into glorified exterminates i only have spy left to enjoy. Kind of ironic that i could rebuild my frames without any lenses at all and just play spy forever and actually enjoy the game. This game has been less and less fun for me after evangelion light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM01 Posted March 8, 2016 Share Posted March 8, 2016 (edited) "I may not agree with what you have to say, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it." Voltaire. I honestly don't care how you play or what missions you play b/c well it's not my business. Complaining about Draco b/c it's your personal complaint and you want to change it doesn't make what you desire right. If you don't like Draco fine cool that's awesome but don't try to get it changed b/c it's your own personal sore spot. So I may not agree with the way you play your game but I will fight to the death for your right to play it the way you want too. Edited March 8, 2016 by MattM01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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