FinnishHim Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Just a plain and simple request to nerf these "Bursas" I saw on Jupiter. I've been gone from the game for a while, maybe a year or so, and even back then I was off-and-on with the game for a couple months at a time. But I tried coming back into Warframe yesterday because I wanted to see the "Specters of the Rail" update, so I did. Spent some platinum I had lying around on Atlas, and was enjoying myself playing through the new system and all that. Then I saw an alert which took me to a Spy mission on Jupiter. Because I wanted to try out Atlas's abilities that I had just unlocked, I wasn't being stealthy in the slightest - at least not in the main, non-spy rooms. Then the Lotus warned me about a "Bursa," and this blue bulldozer MOA shows up. Shortly after, with that one still alive, a red one appeared. After I killed those two, a white one "isolator" immediately appeared and proceeded to kill me 4 times in a row as I tried to reset alarms, fight back, or even try to outrun it into the Spy-rooms. What I'm noticing is that these enemies are just... not fun. I had no fun fighting them. They were difficult to out-maneuver, ignored frontal attacks, outright ignored my Warframe abilities, and had a confusing mix of abilities and even spawned when one was already fighting me! Not to mention that if I didn't try to reset the alarms, that would just bring on more - but if I did try, they would easily kill me while I was on the alarm console. I don't know where the idea for these enemies came from or what event they were inherited from, but please, please nerf these enemies. Either down-grade their loadout, powers, or tankiness or just make it so only one spawns per-mission. I can handle a mini-boss, but having to fight several of these anti-fun enemies in a single mission (which I failed because the isolator killed me on repeat!) is a frustrating experience that pulled me out of the game (literally, since I failed the mission) and made me go on to do something else not-Warframe. I know this is mostly complaining, but I feel like I should speak up because these Bursas are actually making me not enjoy the game. *Note: I do play solo, because I like the responsibility of doing the mission myself and I like to take my time. I imagine Bursas are much easier to flank with multiple players, but I shouldn't have to give up solo-mode to stand a chance against these guys. Thanks for your time, and I hope you hear me out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artemisfortune Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Just bullet jump over them and shoot them in the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXDeadsinxX Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Get gud, problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeithanDiniem Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 The idea came about because people are too dead set in their ways and lack flexibility in combat. The Bursas FORCE players to change their methods of killing enemies and forces you to prioritize taking them out as well as maintaining your alarm status. They are easy to combat once you understand how to approach them and what to expect when they attack. It doesn't take max weapons, mods, or specific frames, just a proper approach. I solo these guys plenty of times while leveling un-potato'd equipment across the board, it can be done by anyone who is willing to take the time to learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorsContraction Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 I'm of the complete opposite opinion from OP and think they are one of the most fun enemies to engage in the game. Oh DE I feel your pain, you just can't win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shy0 Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 you need to learn how to fight them; they are not impossible to solo. jupiter isn't even that high level. if you give up so easily and come to the forums to qq when fighting a new enemy at low levels, maybe find another game with no challenge. if learning to overcome challenges in a game is no fun to you, maybe don't play games at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don_T_Shoot Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 I'm fine with Bursas. Though there is a limit to how many are manageable at one time. And I'm even fine with that since there are very times in Warframe when you are nearly guaranteed to fail. The game needs things like that to keep it interesting. Downed Tenno in a tight hallway with 3 - 4 Bursas. It's almost certain death to rescue them, but super fun if you can pull it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thetantanman Posted September 2, 2016 Share Posted September 2, 2016 When bursas were first released, they were a very tough and challenging enemy. Then they were nerfed and are a joke to fight. Now you want them nerfed again? No thank you. #MakeBursasGreatAgain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azurein Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 While I disagree about Bursas being anti-fun, I do agree that its a pretty #$&(% thing to have them constantly spawn while you're trying to reset alarms. Reducing how often or how many spawn while alarms are going off would be an appropriate adjustment imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nesodos Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 have you seen the new stalker yet? come back after he wiped the floor with you corpse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)THE_HUNTER96929 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 6 hours ago, Nesodos said: have you seen the new stalker yet? come back after he wiped the floor with you corpse Old stalker wiped the floor with me, new stalker feels like a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sintag Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 2 hours ago, (PS4)THE_HUNTER96929 said: Old stalker wiped the floor with me, new stalker feels like a joke I soloed Old Stalker with a Dragon Nikana once. Felt great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)THE_HUNTER96929 Posted September 4, 2016 Share Posted September 4, 2016 37 minutes ago, Sintag said: I soloed Old Stalker with a Dragon Nikana once. Felt great. I wish that the stalker comes with either the old loadout or the war but keeps the damage reduction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerosoul1337 Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 (edited) Actually they had been nerfed a lot already. Health is reduced from 2500 to 1200. Shield is reduced from 2400 to 700. Armor is reduced from 350 to 200. Front side damage resistance is reduced. Damage output is reduced. Recently, their 90% resistance against CC ability is removed completely. Edited September 6, 2016 by aerosoul1337 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoropael Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 I deal with sortie-level Bursas just fine. After all the nerfs that are already applied to them, they're actually quite well-balanced and fun to fight against, unlike a certain glowing bubble Crewman that DE simply loves buffing for god-knows-what-reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethorin Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 On 9/3/2016 at 4:28 PM, Nesodos said: have you seen the new stalker yet? come back after he wiped the floor with you corpse A While Back I am playing Trinity and maxing Dual Heat Sword for the MR, only weapon I have is Dual Heat Sword, Shadow Stalker shows up and I am panicking. Hit And Run for Energy Vamp on other enemies and Blessing when I get hit=Soloed with one weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockscl Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 man, if you are taking an unranked frame you should play properly, bursas only come if you let the alarms sound for a while,to ask for nerfs when you are jumping in a self nerfed state into the mission and also playing it recklessly isnt nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nesodos Posted September 6, 2016 Share Posted September 6, 2016 3 hours ago, Ethorin said: A While Back I am playing Trinity and maxing Dual Heat Sword for the MR, only weapon I have is Dual Heat Sword, Shadow Stalker shows up and I am panicking. Hit And Run for Energy Vamp on other enemies and Blessing when I get hit=Soloed with one weapon. well, i could solo with a cheese tactic too but hes always coming when im ranking stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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