(PSN)H3x3wahn Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Seriously? This is a useless timegate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)joshw1400 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 (edited) Did you really think the quest was gonna be that easy(plus that area is special)? Edited December 10, 2016 by (PS4)joshw1400 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaru Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Because they need to have a way to actually give you the quest and make sure you've completed The Second Dream. Since the Sedna junction requires TSD be completed it fits the bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurrealEdge Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 The enemies in TWW are level 30+. Sedna has enemies that are level 30+. There you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Agent Hodor Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 This requirement to play The War Within has been announced for quite a while, there were numerous threads about it after the PC launch. Specters of the Rail has been out since August giving you at least 4 months to complete the junctions. The quest itself uses Sedna for at least one of its missions, so it is not a stretch to require the player to have unlocked the junction that allows access to the planet. Furthermore it is not unreasonable for DE to expect its players to experience the entirety of the star chart prior to starting The War Within, a project that has been in the making for quite some time. The star chart revamp has moved all the quests to junction rewards, to give a sense of story progression as the player moves though the star chart. Putting the new quest that is the continuation of Second Dream at the end of the star chart is perfectly valid for that progression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)H3x3wahn Posted December 10, 2016 Author Share Posted December 10, 2016 Sedna Junction gives nothing usefull, it's only to make us spend time killing 10 sentients. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurrealEdge Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Just now, (PS4)Francis_Boudreau said: Sedna Junction gives nothing usefull, it's only to make us spend time killing 10 sentients. Think of it this way, you're getting mastery affinity for completing the junction. If anything, the junctions were meant to serve as a lead into TWW with the final encounter during the quest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miser_able Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 You have to do the junction to unlock sedna and sedna is part of the quest. It's quite simple really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)H3x3wahn Posted December 10, 2016 Author Share Posted December 10, 2016 3 minutes ago, shadowfire380 said: You have to do the junction to unlock sedna and sedna is part of the quest. It's quite simple really. You don't need to complete the junction to unlock sedna. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insizer Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 Jesus, why are people even getting hung up on this to begin with? I've read countless threads like this and I've yet to see a good reason why the Pluto-Sedna junction shouldn't be a req. The reqs are easy and getting to Sedna after the Second Dream is very easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiiat Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 ah too slow, many good logical explanations given already. 14 minutes ago, (PS4)Francis_Boudreau said: it's only to make us spend time killing 10 sentients. if you can't deal with Sentients, then you'll probably have trouble playing War Within as well. grasping out of the ordinary concepts on the fly is sort've important for that Quest. 3 minutes ago, (PS4)Francis_Boudreau said: You don't need to complete the junction to unlock sedna. a game can't really expect people to get carried around the Solar Map by Players other than themselves as a way to be able to play a Quest. that would be asinine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PR1D3 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 19 minutes ago, (Xbox One)Agent Hodor said: This requirement to play The War Within has been announced for quite a while, there were numerous threads about it after the PC launch. Specters of the Rail has been out since August giving you at least 4 months to complete the junctions. The quest itself uses Sedna for at least one of its missions, so it is not a stretch to require the player to have unlocked the junction that allows access to the planet. Furthermore it is not unreasonable for DE to expect its players to experience the entirety of the star chart prior to starting The War Within, a project that has been in the making for quite some time. The star chart revamp has moved all the quests to junction rewards, to give a sense of story progression as the player moves though the star chart. Putting the new quest that is the continuation of Second Dream at the end of the star chart is perfectly valid for that progression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurrealEdge Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 6 minutes ago, (PS4)Francis_Boudreau said: You don't need to complete the junction to unlock sedna. It's a requirement if you don't already have the planets unlocked before the changes to the star chart. Newer players will need to progress through there naturally. Just because you have it unlocked already, doesn't mean you get a free pass because you've been around before the changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)H3x3wahn Posted December 10, 2016 Author Share Posted December 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, taiiat said: ah too slow, many good logical explanations given already. if you can't deal with Sentients, then you'll probably have trouble playing War Within as well. grasping out of the ordinary concepts on the fly is sort've important for that Quest. a game can't really expect people to get carried around the Solar Map by Players other than themselves as a way to be able to play a Quest. that would be asinine. I've had sedna unlocked before junctions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miser_able Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 12 minutes ago, (PS4)Francis_Boudreau said: You don't need to complete the junction to unlock sedna. Uh yea ya do, that's what junctions do. Unless of course you are a pre SoTR player who already had sedna unlocked. But why should that player have a different requirement than anybody else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gelkor Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 (edited) 31 minutes ago, (PS4)Francis_Boudreau said: Sedna Junction gives nothing usefull, it's only to make us spend time killing 10 sentients. I killed at least 20 Sentients by accident while farming Lunar Pitcher for The Silver Grove. Edited December 10, 2016 by Gelkor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurrealEdge Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 (edited) 22 minutes ago, (PS4)Francis_Boudreau said: I've had sedna unlocked before junctions... Doesn't mean a thing when we all had to complete it, whether or not we had it unlocked before the changes. If you can't keep up with the updates and the progression system, you're better off playing a much simpler game that doesn't have progression. Edited December 10, 2016 by SurrealEdge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Puckish_Rogue125 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, (PS4)Francis_Boudreau said: Seriously? This is a useless timegate. And one that was announced literally months ago..Months. i underlined and bolded the "s" so you would know it was multiple months. Its a timegate by means of you need to wait 12 hours for the weapon to craft that you could rush with plat if you are super impatient. Timegates in games or anything else are things that bar your entry to an activity until a certain amount of time has passed or prevents you from accessing something until a specific time. This does neither of these things. The sedna junction could have been completed the day of the SOR update quite some time ago. You are just in the mood to complain AND be wrong. Edited December 10, 2016 by (PS4)thedarkness1962 Emphasis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Puckish_Rogue125 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 1 hour ago, (PS4)Francis_Boudreau said: You don't need to complete the junction to unlock sedna. The way the game is now if you did not have any of the nodes on Sedna unlocked prior to SoTR you absolutly must complete the junction to unlock sedna. If you had a node on sedna unlocked prior to SoTR you do not need to complete the junction to access sedna but you do need to complete it to access the quest. Its a prerequisite just like any game that has ever exsisted ever in the history of mankind and before. If you cant get with that and complete the 30 mins worth of requirements perhaps this game aint your bag and need to find something a bit simpler...is farmville still a thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiiat Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 2 hours ago, (PS4)Francis_Boudreau said: I've had sedna unlocked before junctions... but you didn't have the Junction completed before Junctions. perfect! complete the Junctions like you're supposed to and then all is well. same complaint people have had about 'why do i need to complete Missions on the Solar Map to do things on the Solar Map'. because to do B you're required to to A, in order to try to establish doing some things in this game in an order. while most things have no order and you do whatever you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Rey Za BurreI Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 The Senda junction is a BS requirement! You people need to get real. It shouldnt be tied to a quest like this in the first. Especially for Solo players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurrealEdge Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 10 minutes ago, (Xbox One)Rey Za BurreI said: The Senda junction is a BS requirement! You people need to get real. It shouldnt be tied to a quest like this in the first. Especially for Solo players. You should vent your frustration in the thread you already created. You have no one to fault but your own when Rebecca and Megan have gone on the record saying that you needed to clear the junction months in advance before the update even hit PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ny_Soro Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 4 hours ago, (PS4)Francis_Boudreau said: Seriously? This is a useless timegate. 53 minutes ago, (Xbox One)Rey Za BurreI said: The Senda junction is a BS requirement! You people need to get real. It shouldnt be tied to a quest like this in the first. Especially for Solo players. IMO you should both stop complaining because new players have to do the same thing just to access the Second Dream. Just because you're too lazy to do something as easy as the Sedna junction are either lazy or... just plain ridiculous. The amount of hate for something that should of been done WEEKS in advance to the update was just enough time for you to complete said junction. So either leave Warframe and take your salt with you, or get over yourself and do the junction like everyone else has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yagamilight123 Posted December 10, 2016 Share Posted December 10, 2016 7 hours ago, (PS4)Francis_Boudreau said: Seriously? This is a useless timegate. It's call "progression" ... all games have it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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