When Plumbing Uranus...

[Spartan336]

Take a look at these pictures, and spot the death machine.

No, the death machine isn't my oddly modded Saryn Prime. It's the water leaking in.

Uranus is a gas giant, but since our time it's obviously been terraformed, and now supports oceans. Assuming it kept it's original size (Not mass) The water pressure would be, oh I don't know, flippin HUGE!!! I remember watching a video about people going down to the bottom the ocean in a makeshift sub. A crack appeared in the glass, but they shrugged, saying that if it were a serious crack they'd be dead already, since the water would just engulf them instantly. 

Now take a look at this grineer base on a water planet the size of a gas giant, where the pressure would be way worse, and tell me the plumbers aren't constantly freaking out. There is water FLOWING UNDER THE STAIRS AND LEAKING THROUGH THE PIPES IN THE ROOF!!!

I have no idea how they've kept the base from flooding. All the pipes they use to regulate the pressure are leaking! Tyl should stop worrying about crushing our heads like a tin can and worry about the water crushing his sea-lab like one! Either that, or this fictional metal the Grineer use is stronger than anything we could ever produce. (And probably is.)

Also I'm irked that terraformed isn't considered a word by the forums. 

 

 

Edited November 18, 2017 by Spartan336
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[(PSN)CrimsonAxure]

Feels bad man 

I'd totally sign up to help stop the leakage in return of tellurium 

[Lakais]

Honestly, I am more of the mind that we hop around the MOONS of Uranus, not the giant itself. And as far as I know, the density of gas giants is actually quite low. Some joke about if you had an ocean big enough and dropped Jupiter in, it'd float or something else equally weird. 

So in theory, even if Uranus was made into an oceanic world with equal mass, it would not be as big, dimensions wise, as it is today. 

Edited November 18, 2017 by Lakais

[Vicsvinny]

Who's to say that the main reason why he has that many Lancers down there is to patch up leaks. Sure every evil mad scientist needs henchmen, but it would make sense in my book if those lancers carried a little toolbox with them. And throw Wrench Prime at you if desperate times call for desperate measures

In Sharkwing, you can find areas that have just been completely submerged by the ocean, so.. maybe the real estate on Uranus isn't too hot, but it's cheap! out of the way and makes for a great evil lair! Though Regor should start thinking on moving house soon.. He's losing plumbers and mechanics by the hundreds every day...

[Spartan336]

1 minute ago, Lakais said:

Honestly, I am more of the mind that we hop around the MOONS of Uranus, not the giant itself. And as far as I know, the density of gas giants is actually quite low. Some joke about if you had an ocean big enough and dropped Jupiter in, it'd float or something else equally weird. 

Yeah if it were the moons I could see this. But my assumption is that they took the entire planet of Uranus, kept the size and made it completely water, and tried to make bases in it. Uranus isn't a gas giant anymore after this happens, and keeps it's same size, meaning it has a TON more mass. 

Could be wrong on that, but if what I say is the case, the Grineer are crazy. 

[Lakais]

1 minute ago, Spartan336 said:

Yeah if it were the moons I could see this. But my assumption is that they took the entire planet of Uranus, kept the size and made it completely water, and tried to make bases in it. Uranus isn't a gas giant anymore after this happens, and keeps it's same size, meaning it has a TON more mass. 

Could be wrong on that, but if what I say is the case, the Grineer are crazy. 

I edited my previous post but I'll repeat. Gas giants are not dense, so Uranus turned liquid would mean that the mass remains relatively the same, but the size decreases. Problem with all that is that Uranus, like all gas giants, are predominantly Hydrogen and Helium gas with traces of other elements that usually give them their distinct coloration and clouds. Unless the Orokin converted some of the Hydrogen into Oxygen and combined the two to make oceans, which is some next level divine God power stuff, there is no way in the seven hells the Orokin made Uranus into a water planet, and that is water we are swimming in. There are "sharks" that also show up on earth, at least one of them is washed up on shore near Cetus. 

[Spartan336]

11 minutes ago, Lakais said:

Honestly, I am more of the mind that we hop around the MOONS of Uranus, not the giant itself. And as far as I know, the density of gas giants is actually quite low. Some joke about if you had an ocean big enough and dropped Jupiter in, it'd float or something else equally weird. 

So in theory, even if Uranus was made into an oceanic world with equal mass, it would not be as big, dimensions wise, as it is today. 

Yeah, my assumption is that they kept the original size since it looks exactly the same on the starmap, but now it's made of water, meaning it has a crap ton more mass and gravity. Could be a moon or something, but my money's on the planet itself. 

[Lakais]

1 minute ago, Spartan336 said:

Yeah, my assumption is that they kept the original size since it looks exactly the same on the starmap, but now it's made of water, meaning it has a crap ton more mass and gravity. Could be a moon or something, but my money's on the planet itself. 

I still don't buy it. One big problem is that Uranus alone as a water world would mean it's a ball of ice. It's a long way from the Sun. A moon on the other hand could be heated by tectonic friction caused by the moon's gravitational interaction with the planet. 

Further supporting this is that a quick wikipedia check and cross-reference in the game confirm that all the mission names are names of various moons of Uranus. So in theory, that means that where-ever possible, Orokin turned the moons into waterworlds. 

[SilvaDreams]

1 hour ago, Lakais said:

I still don't buy it. One big problem is that Uranus alone as a water world would mean it's a ball of ice. It's a long way from the Sun. A moon on the other hand could be heated by tectonic friction caused by the moon's gravitational interaction with the planet. 

Further supporting this is that a quick wikipedia check and cross-reference in the game confirm that all the mission names are names of various moons of Uranus. So in theory, that means that where-ever possible, Orokin turned the moons into waterworlds. 

Terra forming a moon would be a lot easier and faster than even a small planet too.

As for the leaking water well... Water is hard to keep out specially when under high pressure. So long as you have a way to let it drain out and can maintain the equilibrium so water doesn't force it's way up from moon pools your golden.

Edited November 18, 2017 by SilvaDreams

[Spartan336]

2 hours ago, Lakais said:

I still don't buy it. One big problem is that Uranus alone as a water world would mean it's a ball of ice. It's a long way from the Sun. A moon on the other hand could be heated by tectonic friction caused by the moon's gravitational interaction with the planet. 

Further supporting this is that a quick wikipedia check and cross-reference in the game confirm that all the mission names are names of various moons of Uranus. So in theory, that means that where-ever possible, Orokin turned the moons into waterworlds. 

Hmmm. Yeah you're right. May be the moons after all.

[(PSN)psycofang]

Ok am I the ONLY one who read the original title and this new one and giggled? 

I mean c'mooooooon.

[(PSN)robotwars7]

it does mention in the Cephalon Fragments that the sheer pressure from being so far underwater ruptures the glass and water leaks in frequently. considering the size of the Sealabs in their entirety, it's quite impressive that the whole thing hasn't become flooded yet, and that they usually only get small leaks (though there is an underwater room that was clearly an elevator shaft before it was flooded.)

you can't compress water. water compresses you.

[SilvaDreams]

1 hour ago, (PS4)robotwars7 said:

it does mention in the Cephalon Fragments that the sheer pressure from being so far underwater ruptures the glass and water leaks in frequently. considering the size of the Sealabs in their entirety, it's quite impressive that the whole thing hasn't become flooded yet, and that they usually only get small leaks (though there is an underwater room that was clearly an elevator shaft before it was flooded.)

you can't compress water. water compresses you.

In Soviet Russia water doesn't crush you...... Okay, won't lie... It still crushes you more than socialist party crushes capitalist dreams.

Edited November 18, 2017 by SilvaDreams

[Coldie93]

5 hours ago, Lakais said:

I edited my previous post but I'll repeat. Gas giants are not dense, so Uranus turned liquid would mean that the mass remains relatively the same, but the size decreases. Problem with all that is that Uranus, like all gas giants, are predominantly Hydrogen and Helium gas with traces of other elements that usually give them their distinct coloration and clouds. Unless the Orokin converted some of the Hydrogen into Oxygen and combined the two to make oceans, which is some next level divine God power stuff, there is no way in the seven hells the Orokin made Uranus into a water planet, and that is water we are swimming in. There are "sharks" that also show up on earth, at least one of them is washed up on shore near Cetus. 

Maybe they pumped Uranus (huehue) full of oxygen from outside source.  And that oxygen mixed with the hydrogen to make water.  Since oxygen is pumped from outside source,  it caused the planet to increase in mass..  Im not a scientist to know if this is possible and if it's not,  just rely on game logic

[SilvaDreams]

4 minutes ago, Coldie93 said:

Maybe they pumped Uranus (huehue) full of oxygen from outside source.  And that oxygen mixed with the hydrogen to make water.  Since oxygen is pumped from outside source,  it caused the planet to increase in mass..  Im not a scientist to know if this is possible and if it's not,  just rely on game logic

It's possible... I mean you have to add a bit of energy into the mix and quite a bit at that scale but they did have access to the unlimited power of the void.

[Coldie93]

3 minutes ago, SilvaDreams said:

It's possible... I mean you have to add a bit of energy into the mix and quite a bit at that scale but they did have access to the unlimited power of the void.

Well there's the sun.  Im guessing they can harvest quite alot of energy there...

[SilvaDreams]

5 minutes ago, Coldie93 said:

Well there's the sun.  Im guessing they can harvest quite alot of energy there...

Solar energy is rather fickle, it can't be too warm or you lose what little efficiency it  has and in space heat is a big issue as heat doesn't dissipate easily with no atmosphere.

[Kaotyke]

Its not made of just WATER.

And if my brief research is right, its "Icy" part is not ice as we know it, but a dense conbination of water+mathane+amonia

It says here that Uranus' oceans are high flameable (which ofc meant that we all went as Ember there the first time and threw a fireball at it).

Also, I do not believe its Uranus itself, only one of its moons. Because I remember seeing Uranus in this area

Then it became very damn dense to see after a update.

[Miser_able]

Iirc it stated somewhere that the oceans of uranus aren't water. 

[Spartan336]

1 hour ago, Miser_able said:

Iirc it stated somewhere that the oceans of uranus aren't water. 

Are they made of syrup? Because I move so darn slow in those waters!

5 hours ago, (PS4)psycofang said:

Ok am I the ONLY one who read the original title and this new one and giggled? 

I mean c'mooooooon.

Thank you.

[Miser_able]

26 minutes ago, Spartan336 said:

Are they made of syrup? Because I move so darn slow in those waters!

Thank you.

Iirc they said it was liquid methane. 

[(XBOX)DeadFall526]

Always imagines it like this ... 

 

My hero CUrly is even shaped like a Grineer.

 

* EDIT*  Oh and to the guy who said gas giants are not dense, you are absolutely correct, in fact did you guys know that if you had a lake big enough, Saturn would float on it. The universe is  ... the only true magic in the *AHEM* uni...verse ? 

Edited November 18, 2017 by (XB1)DeadFall526

[(PSN)Carlysle_Comfort]

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When plumbing Uranus...

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Uranus is a gas giant...

I laughed.

I laugh SO hard.

 

I'm sorry.  :)

[Spartan336]

On 11/18/2017 at 12:13 PM, (PS4)Carlysle_Comfort said:

I laughed.

I laugh SO hard.

 

I'm sorry.  :)

This was half me contemplating physics, and half an excuse to make these jokes. 

[Eldnacpeek]

On 11/18/2017 at 10:02 AM, Miser_able said:

Iirc they said it was liquid methane. 

 

Warframe article on the main site a few years ago stated the oceans of Uranus are comprised of methane and amonia, so it is in fact the actual planet the sealab resides in.

Edited November 20, 2017 by LazerSkink