Jim22 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Hi I got one question will someone get banned if they gift there alt account a warframe or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Musicopia Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Players are not supposed to interact between multiple accounts if they own more than 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)XxDarkyanxX Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 (edited) My bad, Misread. Edit : It is against the term of usage to interact with another account that you own. Edited December 3, 2017 by (PS4)XxDarkyanxX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim22 Posted December 3, 2017 Author Share Posted December 3, 2017 Not saying I have an alt account but I was going to gift my brother who made an account 2 years ago and logged back in today so is it ok if I gift him something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim22 Posted December 3, 2017 Author Share Posted December 3, 2017 Is it ok if my brother made an account and I gifted him some warframes but he asked me to play on it so we could get a little efurther ahead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brahki Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, Jim22 said: Not saying I have an alt account but I was going to gift my brother who made an account 2 years ago and logged back in today so is it ok if I gift him something "plz unban it was my brother" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWranwrap Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 They can't prove it was 2 of your own accounts so it would be hard for them to uphold any bans. Even if there is tos saying they can ban you for anything if you've bought any platinum whatsoever you have right to access it. Your rights are upheld over any tos. (You can't sign them away.} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrionHisSon Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 25 minutes ago, Jim22 said: Hi I got one question will someone get banned if they gift there alt account a warframe or anything. 7 minutes ago, Jim22 said: Not saying I have an alt account but I was going to gift my brother who made an account 2 years ago and logged back in today so is it ok if I gift him something Actually, you did. If your brother owns the account, then yes. If it's an alt account that you own, and freely trade with, you'll be banned until 2035. 4 minutes ago, Jim22 said: Is it ok if my brother made an account and I gifted him some warframes but he asked me to play on it so we could get a little efurther ahead Honestly, he should play on his account. He won't learn anything while you're using it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltage Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 1 minute ago, SirWranwrap said: They can't prove it was 2 of your own accounts so it would be hard for them to uphold any bans. Even if there is tos saying they can ban you for anything if you've bought any platinum whatsoever you have right to access it. Your rights are upheld over any tos. (You can't sign them away.} You agree to the Terms of Service and EULA when you create your account. If DE suspects you of any malicious activity, they have every right to suspend your account. OP: If you have an alt account, do not gift it items. If it is your brother like you say, it is their account, not yours, so you have every right to gift them an item. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)psycofang Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 (edited) They cant ban you for gifting other accounts also i gift my wife things for the last 3 years on wf and no ban. You have to pretty much advertise that you own 2 accounts, showing passwords etc and that youre breaking ToS to get banned and even thats a grey area. Even then trading between accounts being ban-able has never made sense since starter plat cant be traded. Edited December 3, 2017 by (PS4)psycofang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWranwrap Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 TOS still don't override rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim22 Posted December 3, 2017 Author Share Posted December 3, 2017 I really dont see why it would be a problem gifting your alt account warframes and weapons like why would you get banned for that not like I'm going to do it but yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPrime Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, SirWranwrap said: TOS still don't override rights. What does this mean, exactly? OP; if it is your brothers account, then you have no issue. But if it's your alt account, don't do it. My brother and I lived together awhile back, same IP, sometimes we'd switch between PC and laptop, depending on what was going on, so our logins were all over the place, and we gifted things and traded fairly often with no issues - but we were fully capable to prove the accounts were owned by different people. Document and cover your and your brothers butts and proceed with caution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim22 Posted December 3, 2017 Author Share Posted December 3, 2017 He recently got back into Warframe about 2 days ago I don't know why am saying itsy alt because it isn't hasn't been played on in over 2 years I think and he asked me if I could help and the reason I had to play on his account is because we only have 1 computer. Also no I haven't gifted him anything yet because I'm afraid I'm going to get banned because it's on the same computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)psycofang Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Youre not going to get banned. Before i bought us both our own tvs, ps4s and pcs we shared the same pc. They cant ban you for sharing an isp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim22 Posted December 3, 2017 Author Share Posted December 3, 2017 1 minute ago, (PS4)psycofang said: Youre not going to get banned. Before i bought us both our own tvs, ps4s and pcs we shared the same pc. They cant ban you for sharing an isp. Can they ban you for just helping your brother out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirWranwrap Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 3 minutes ago, MagPrime said: What does this mean, exactly? Click through agreements often are not binding contracts, even though companies assert them as such and try their best to have that be believed. Say for example a EULA states something to the effect of "You can't criticize this product publicly." (Which is actually fairly common.) This would infringe your free speech and render the eula invalid. You can't sign away your rights, even if you clicked agree. So in the case of a account that has purchased platinum with real money a service has been paid for and must be delivered upon, to do less would be fraud. And since they would be unable to prove the trade was between 2 of his own accounts a suspension could not be upheld. That isn't to say he couldn't be banned for other reasons though, don't read into my statement that you have immunity.(hacking, etc as those are valid grounds) Disclaimer: I'm not saying go sue de, nor encouraging actions against the tos/eula, just explaining how eulas aren't what they seem, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim22 Posted December 3, 2017 Author Share Posted December 3, 2017 Where can I find you/eula also is me just talking about this going to get me banned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airwolfen Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 14 minutes ago, SirWranwrap said: TOS still don't override rights. Yet its still a contract. Its an agreement between both parties. And if you break them then they have all the rights to block access to the account. And you agree to that, otherwise you cant play the game to begin with) Of course you can legally fight back if you have the proof that the accounts are operated and owned by different people but the burden of proof is on the user as DE can already show that both accounts run from a single location. Will they though, rarely. its mostly measures to easily fight abuse cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yagamilight123 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 (edited) 33 minutes ago, SirWranwrap said: They can't prove it was 2 of your own accounts so it would be hard for them to uphold any bans. Even if there is tos saying they can ban you for anything if you've bought any platinum whatsoever you have right to access it. Your rights are upheld over any tos. (You can't sign them away.} Not really ... they can ban you for whatever they want ... the account its belong to DE not to him ... they can ban you without reason if they want , not matter how much platinum he bought . You have 0 rights . Edited December 3, 2017 by Yagamilight123 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim22 Posted December 3, 2017 Author Share Posted December 3, 2017 31 minutes ago, GrazewoundZero said: Actually, you did. If your brother owns the account, then yes. If it's an alt account that you own, and freely trade with, you'll be banned until 2035. Honestly, he should play on his account. He won't learn anything while you're using it. What do you mean by freely trade like with other people or your other account ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)psycofang Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 15 minutes ago, Jim22 said: Can they ban you for just helping your brother out Can they prove it wasnt the brother without visual confirmation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miser_able Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 If it is your brother's account you may gift him things, but you CANNOT play on it, that will get it banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim22 Posted December 3, 2017 Author Share Posted December 3, 2017 Ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airwolfen Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Jim22 said: Where can I find you/eula also is me just talking about this going to get me banned? https://www.warframe.com/en/termshttp://www.warframe.com/en/eula No, talking about it is not going to get you in trouble. definitely not when asking a question on the subject. Edited December 3, 2017 by Airwolfen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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