Jarriaga Posted January 8, 2018 Share Posted January 8, 2018 I'm a man and a Valkyr player and never once wondered or even wished for a male Valkyr. Valkyries are meant to be female to begin with. Warframes are designed around particular themes (A sword, a venomous plant, a shard of glass) or mythological figures (Nezha, Wukong). They do not need to have separate genders. You have your Tenno for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)MARXIANapparel Posted February 8, 2018 Author Share Posted February 8, 2018 They gave us a locker rm snd your complsining about time wasted...ill take the reskinning of the frames as far usage of time. They could easily hv a toggle switch at arsenal with male or female build, im sure its already underline written in programming anyway. They should hv a streamline wrk flow by now...if not thats on development team. This also makes design of new frames more refreshing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)MARXIANapparel Posted February 8, 2018 Author Share Posted February 8, 2018 On 1/8/2018 at 7:12 AM, Jarriaga said: I'm a man and a Valkyr player and never once wondered or even wished for a male Valkyr. Valkyries are meant to be female to begin with. Warframes are designed around particular themes (A sword, a venomous plant, a shard of glass) or mythological figures (Nezha, Wukong). They do not need to have separate genders. You have your Tenno for that. Thats why the feature could be a toggle in the aresnal just like weapon holster, simple. Its the option to do so that matters and if they make it purchasable or farmable then great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXHobbitXx Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Horrible idea, 33 frames that would need counterparts, imagine how much wasted time devs would have to put in for nothing, no actual addition to gameplay, an old hashed out argument, that DE have said wont happen and majority of players dont want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)MARXIANapparel Posted February 8, 2018 Author Share Posted February 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, xXHobbitXx said: Horrible idea, 33 frames that would need counterparts, imagine how much wasted time devs would have to put in for nothing, no actual addition to gameplay, an old hashed out argument, that DE have said wont happen and majority of players dont want This is a simple option...only draw back is pushing your desgin team to be more creative when we do get a new frame. In reality everybody playing a reiteration of ea frame ablility w another frame...radial blind or sand in your eyes. So how would this ve any different...at least at the end of the day DE will make new innovative frames and game play mech. Push the envelope...dont think another gm developer wouldnt copy tge model and add greater changes. You have to do it first so the cant beat you to the punch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShogunGunshow Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 I mean, while I would love to play a female Atlas sometimes, that stuff doesn't come out of nothing. Like someone mentioned, best odds of something like this would be from an expanded TennoGen program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45neo Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 On 1/6/2018 at 2:11 PM, (Xbox One)ZeepySea said: What I would rather see or hear is a gender switch for the operator. Technically different operator primary faces are either male or female and slightly change the operators body... The only real differences are how broad their shoulders are and his slim the waist is. So I can understand why you wouldn't have noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45neo Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 1 hour ago, (PS4)MARXIANapparel said: Thats why the feature could be a toggle in the aresnal just like weapon holster, simple. Its the option to do so that matters and if they make it purchasable or farmable then great. And you completely missed his point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45neo Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 1 hour ago, (PS4)MARXIANapparel said: They gave us a locker rm snd your complsining about time wasted...ill take the reskinning of the frames as far usage of time. They could easily hv a toggle switch at arsenal with male or female build, im sure its already underline written in programming anyway. They should hv a streamline wrk flow by now...if not thats on development team. This also makes design of new frames more refreshing. They are always busy, always. Why do you think the sacrifice still isn't out yet? It's because they are busy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45neo Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Also may o be the first to say. If DE makes gender swap skins people are gonna want deluxe gender swap skins. So more like over triple the work load for each new frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarriaga Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, (PS4)MARXIANapparel said: Thats why the feature could be a toggle in the aresnal just like weapon holster, simple. Its the option to do so that matters and if they make it purchasable or farmable then great. Giving you "the option" is at odds with each Warframe having a unique identify. Each Warframe is meant to be unique lore-wise because they represent a theme, and belonged to a specific Tenno. Excalibur is a sword. Gara is a shard of glass. They are not reflections of ourselves, they are abstract concepts. Your Operator is your own reflection, and that's why your Operator allows you to change your gender. 4 hours ago, 45neo said: And you completely missed his point. Definitely. Edited February 8, 2018 by Jarriaga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
---DADDY--- Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 If gender is a social construct why do we need gender bending warframes? It shouldn't matter what gender they are whatsoever. What should matter is their functionality and how it interacts with overall gameplay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rune_me Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 7 hours ago, (PS4)MARXIANapparel said: They gave us a locker rm snd your complsining about time wasted...ill take the reskinning of the frames as far usage of time. They could easily hv a toggle switch at arsenal with male or female build, im sure its already underline written in programming anyway. They should hv a streamline wrk flow by now...if not thats on development team. This also makes design of new frames more refreshing. Pfff, whole words? Who needs them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
traybong111 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, (PS4)MARXIANapparel said: This is a simple option...only draw back is pushing your desgin team to be more creative when we do get a new frame. In reality everybody playing a reiteration of ea frame ablility w another frame...radial blind or sand in your eyes. So how would this ve any different...at least at the end of the day DE will make new innovative frames and game play mech. Push the envelope...dont think another gm developer wouldnt copy tge model and add greater changes. You have to do it first so the cant beat you to the punch. Do you have any idea how much time and work go into commercial 3D modelling? Of course you don't, otherwise you would realize the amount of work is absolutely not worth what you yourself call a "simple option" and wouldn't have started this garbage fire of a thread in the first place. The amount of work that goes into new modelling, animations, meshing etc absolutely needs to have a bigger return than a "simple option." I think Tennogen could work, theoretically, but Tennogen isn't just ported into the client like copy-paste, DE still needs to do their own testing and touching up on those items (not to mention DE doesn't allow you to change anything on Warframe body model, so...yeah.) Edited February 8, 2018 by traybong111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maqabir Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Warframes are a sexless piece of equipment, whether you refer to them as he, she, it, they or anything else they won't mind. Unless this is about wanting DE to make Excal with boobs or a flat-chested Saryn skin in which case I'd say no, that's just a waste of resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtisticLlama Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 (edited) No, if anything make new frames with new abilities with a similar theme to existing ones if you're so obsessed with how they look. It's a waste of time and resources to try to appeal to you types in my opinion. Edited February 8, 2018 by ArtisticLlama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liyern Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 (edited) Too much effort, for little return. Since Warframes are pieces of hardware that only carry resemblance to humanoids with a gender i'm personally not too worried about their sex, only their stats and abilities. I'm sure DE's devs would rather spend their already busy schedule on new frames/tangable content then having to make a gender switch for each and every frame where'd they have to change every skin (not to mention redesign feminine skins like Saryn's Deluxe skin) that comes along with it, reposition accessory mounting points to compensate for genderswapped bodies, new idle animations etc. From a buisiness standpoint it's unfeasible and too costly for switching resources and the time spent in making something that's not needed to "sell" the game. Edited February 8, 2018 by Liyern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isca Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Can someone please sticky a copy of the Warframe Bingo card at the top of the forum, and make it a requirement that people have read and acknowledged it before posting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isca Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 2 hours ago, Yung-Azrael said: If gender is a social construct why do we need gender bending warframes? Ironically, Warframe can already be seen as quite a powerful metaphor for gender identity. We, the living Tenno, are androgynous teens and can be customised to be male or female at will, whilst the frames we control remotely are variously masculine (e.g. Rhino), feminine (Trinity) or androgynous (Nezha). In a way, this is already quite an accurate and clever reflection of how we 'wear' our gender identities outwardly in the real world. Gender is performative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion-Shields Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 On 1/6/2018 at 2:42 PM, Ryim_Drykeon said: boob physics I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac10smg--Toa_of_Green Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 On 1/6/2018 at 3:11 PM, (Xbox One)ZeepySea said: What I would rather see or hear is a gender switch for the operator. The faces. Half of the faces uses a male body, half use a female. You can tell by the width of the torso which is which. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion-Shields Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, 45neo said: Also may o be the first to say. If DE makes gender swap skins people are gonna want deluxe gender swap skins. So more like over triple the work load for each new frame. Give them an inch and they'll take a mile...times infinity. Never, ever give in to SJW's. Nothing is ever enough for them. Edited February 8, 2018 by Legion-Shields Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCoolcg10 Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 Just last week, a topic, almost exactly like this one, was closed because it got very toxic. Just FYI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
45neo Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 1 hour ago, mac10smg-ToaOfGreen said: The faces. Half of the faces uses a male body, half use a female. You can tell by the width of the torso which is which. Although this is the case I thin DE should have put in... More effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceColdHawk Posted February 8, 2018 Share Posted February 8, 2018 My god what's with all these threads wanting to be able to change the identity of a unique character? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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