DatDarkOne Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, (PS4)XephonixAwesome said: how about we dont worry about the weapons but instead the frame itself. so lets see you survive 10 min in mot with a mk1 braton with no mods on it, see how versatile she is then That's not exactly a hard challenge to do. I can do that with Mag, Mag Prime, Ivara, Titania, Ash, and Saryn all solo. Just to name the frames I know for sure I can do it with easily Heck I can do it with mk-1. Paris too. Edited May 17, 2018 by DatDarkOne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeMonkey Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, (PS4)XephonixAwesome said: how about we dont worry about the weapons but instead the frame itself. so lets see you survive 10 min in mot with a mk1 braton with no mods on it, see how versatile she is then Do the same with Mesa first, except with an unmodded Mk-1 Kunai instead. When you inevitably fail I expect to see a ''Mesa buff'' thread in the correct sub-forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eathian Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Just now, DeMonkey said: Do the same with Mesa first, except with an unmodded Mk-1 Kunai instead. When you inevitably fail I expect to see a ''Mesa buff'' thread in the correct sub-forum. Pleeeease do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giglyfoot Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 2 hours ago, (PS4)XephonixAwesome said: how about we dont worry about the weapons but instead the frame itself. so lets see you survive 10 min in mot with a mk1 braton with no mods on it, see how versatile she is then I don't have video creating software, but if u were on PC I'd show u it can be done. In fact, it can be done without any weapons. Use energizing dash to get some energy, find a group of mobs, magnetize them, polarize, then wait for dot to kill (less than 10s wait time). Can even pull/crush for faster kills and higher dot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giglyfoot Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 I'm assuming this person is highly unaware that Mag's abilities alone are enough to easily carry the first 90 minutes of any survival...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DatDarkOne Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, giglyfoot said: I'm assuming this person is highly unaware that Mag's abilities alone are enough to easily carry the first 90 minutes of any survival...... OP seems highly unaware of quite a few things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPrime Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 50 minutes ago, (PS4)XephonixAwesome said: how about we dont worry about the weapons but instead the frame itself. so lets see you survive 10 min in mot with a mk1 braton with no mods on it, see how versatile she is then This is asinine. Most of the Warframes are built with weapon interaction in mind. Take any of them into Mot with that requirement and they'll fair no better than a Mag. Take Trinity, Nova or Harrow; then need weapons to be able to do anything beyond hiding and buffing or slowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giglyfoot Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 3 hours ago, (PS4)XephonixAwesome said: how about we dont worry about the weapons but instead the frame itself. so lets see you survive 10 min in mot with a mk1 braton with no mods on it, see how versatile she is then https://imgur.com/a/elXKX7i Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)XephonixAwesome Posted May 17, 2018 Author Share Posted May 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, giglyfoot said: https://imgur.com/a/elXKX7i that doesnt prove anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)XephonixAwesome Posted May 17, 2018 Author Share Posted May 17, 2018 20 minutes ago, giglyfoot said: I'm assuming this person is highly unaware that Mag's abilities alone are enough to easily carry the first 90 minutes of any survival...... have you thought of mot or any sortie survival Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)XephonixAwesome Posted May 17, 2018 Author Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) 33 minutes ago, giglyfoot said: I don't have video creating software, but if u were on PC I'd show u it can be done. In fact, it can be done without any weapons. Use energizing dash to get some energy, find a group of mobs, magnetize them, polarize, then wait for dot to kill (less than 10s wait time). Can even pull/crush for faster kills and higher dot. you have to carry a weapon Edited May 17, 2018 by (PS4)XephonixAwesome miss type Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion-Shields Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, (PS4)XephonixAwesome said: that doesnt prove anything neither does trying to judge frames by a metric they weren't designed for. Mag is designed to work with weapons, so it doesn't matter how weak she is without one. You're not going to start calling her weak because she can't tank like Rhino or heal like a Trinity either, are you? Edited May 17, 2018 by Legion-Shields Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DatDarkOne Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, (PS4)XephonixAwesome said: have you thought of mot or any sortie survival Yes. Magnetize to compensate for the much weaker weapon's damage and some CC. Augmented Polarize to CC enemies while stripping some armor. Pull to either kill enemies and/or set them up for Crush to finish them off. Any that might still be alive, just repeat or shoot them with the MK-1 Braton. Depending on the Mag build, you might not even need to do that much. You can completely control the battlefield with Mag and Enemy Radar. Been there, done that, and got the tee shirt. Edited May 17, 2018 by DatDarkOne sllight grammar correction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giglyfoot Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 4 hours ago, (PS4)XephonixAwesome said: you have to carry a weapon No you dont. At least not on PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giglyfoot Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 4 hours ago, (PS4)XephonixAwesome said: have you thought of mot or any sortie survival Obviously. Actually surprised you didn't say infested XD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giglyfoot Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 This page is getting really out of hand. Many of us have brought forward multiple points which contradict the OP's statement, and all of their replies are, "Oh yea, well in this super highly unlikely situation, Mag (along with EVERY other frame) won't work". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Yes-Man-Kablaam Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) Its just the Op stubbornly trying to save what little face he can instead of just admitting he focused on the wrong thing for mag. My 1st times with mag i went all in on polarize too and was underwhelmed but when i saw a wf partner (Specifically aggp) and how he used magnetize i went back in and she just wrecks everything. Edited May 17, 2018 by (PS4)Yes-Man-Kablaam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameijin-Grey Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 On 2018-05-15 at 9:12 PM, (PS4)XephonixAwesome said: Ever since mag got nerfed, she has gotten thrown in the gutter and has to rely on her weapons to survive. One of my clan mates went into the simulacram to attempt to prove that she is still viable. Needless to say that it didnt go well. With a full power strength build it took him almost 20 times to strip a heavy gunner, while any other weapon (excluding crit weapons and fang prime) can strip it quicker than mag. Conclusion: she needs a bit of a buff I really.. really would recommend doing some research before cawing that a frame like Mag needs a buff. You and your friend are under-equipped, and mal-informed. I mean no harm in what I am saying, but seriously do some research please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnage2K4 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, (PS4)XephonixAwesome said: how about we dont worry about the weapons but instead the frame itself. so lets see you survive 10 min in mot with a mk1 braton with no mods on it, see how versatile she is then Easy... not even a challenge. Edited May 17, 2018 by Carnage2K4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)XephonixAwesome Posted May 17, 2018 Author Share Posted May 17, 2018 10 hours ago, Carnage2K4 said: Easy... not even a challenge. now lets see you do it without any mods on the weapon and her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)XephonixAwesome Posted May 17, 2018 Author Share Posted May 17, 2018 10 hours ago, giglyfoot said: Obviously. Actually surprised you didn't say infested XD. well thats a given because of toxic ancients and the osprey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goga_gola Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, (PS4)XephonixAwesome said: now lets see you do it without any mods on the weapon and her changing the goalposts won’t work here, especially when you’re now just telling someone to run naked into the battlefield and try not to die. at this point I just think you’re doing this all for the laughs nevermind, you definitely are and you got me good, so congratulations. Edited May 17, 2018 by goga_gola Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Railgun Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 11 minutes ago, (PS4)XephonixAwesome said: now lets see you do it without any mods on the weapon and her That not the point? No frame can go very long without any mods on them. Your argument is stuck on your personal experience and a single experiment you did with a friend, and you haven't presented any actual data on why mag needs a buff. Numbers and facts speak louder than personal opinions. Show us exactly where, and why you believe Mag needs a buff, and make proposed changes. Do it respectfully and constructively and you would not be met with so much criticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnage2K4 Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, (PS4)XephonixAwesome said: now lets see you do it without any mods on the weapon and her I guess you didn't bother to watch it... There were no mods on the weapon... No mods on the Frame as well?.. Nice way to move the goal posts... So basically you're saying she's under-powered if you remove her weapons and abilities... Do you understand how ridiculous you sound? Edited May 17, 2018 by Carnage2K4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YandereWaifu Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 17 hours ago, Postal_pat said: ..... Full strength plus range, go into low to mid range levels and pull the world! AHHH~ Ive tried that one, its amazing on IO though i more meant for high level stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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