Dromeos-Prime Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Excal WAS my favorite and most used frame, mainly because of his aesthetics and that his abilities complimented sword play. Slash Dash - I've always used this as a mobility ability and that hasn't changed. Radial Blind - This was once my favorite ability, being able to blind enemies then brutally cut them up after was so satifying. But it has now been smashed with the LoS hammer and is practically useless on most indoor tilesets (Because there's way too much stuff all over the place.). Super Jump - I honestly only used this whenever I was too lazy to aim an air-melee and that hasn't changed. Radial Javelin - From unreliable to decent (powerful at low lvls) to unreliable again. Will DE ever see that there's way too much cover in indoor tilesets for LoS dependent abilities to work properly. LoS (line of sight) will only really be reliable if every map in Warframe were large and open, like the Earth an Phobos tilesets. It's completely useless in cramped hallways and corridors like the Grineer and Copus ship maps (Don't even get me started on Eris.). All in all DE nerfed one of the already decent-crap tier frames to the ground again. I guess I'll just build Rhino again and say goodnight to my sweet prince... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLordX2 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 After the Excalibur buff i began using Excalibur more often...well, back to Ash i guess (At least he looks bad@$$). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satinpuppies Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Best part of this, is I"M STILL FARMING VIVER JUST LIKE I WAS BEFORE with guess what? A DIFFERENT FRAME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolyDonut3 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Best part of this, is I"M STILL FARMING VIVER JUST LIKE I WAS BEFORE with guess what? A DIFFERENT FRAME. They'll just nerf that too. It's what they do. Just nerf without a care in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkLordX2 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Best part of this, is I"M STILL FARMING VIVER JUST LIKE I WAS BEFORE with guess what? A DIFFERENT FRAME. Just don't say the name of the frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armedpoop Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Best part of this, is I"M STILL FARMING VIVER JUST LIKE I WAS BEFORE with guess what? A DIFFERENT FRAME. this thread was totally about viver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evanescent Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 *throws up hands* Wow. DE. Just WOW. Nerfing one frame for a SINGLE NODE. Excalibur Didn't NEED that change FFS. Neither did Mag. or Trinity. Normally I'm patient and believe what DE does is for the best, but now..... Why DE? Can't you see that now javelin is useless indoors? I can't even use superjump to get over them because of the low celings. GODDAMIT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRIBAT Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 (edited) Anyone that played Warframe at least 200+ hours should post a picture as proof and vote with a voice that could matter. No matter if You payed or not. Its the game time that You spent with it that matters. Means You know what its like, what its about and what it shoud be and become.I want to see Votes, Feedbacks, Reposts, Ideas from You who actually should have a voice. Share and unite. You like this game? Make it better, not worse. Think what You want, and what it needs. Everyone knows by now what happened. Yes, it really happened. Your turn now Thnx for Feedbacks, keep them comming.. A few post to consider (helping out) https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/344539-i-cannot-understand-des-decisions/ https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/344514-patch-lands-people-overreact/ This probablly is rage post but consider why it came to that and why it always comes to that. (Refering to my post) Edited November 13, 2014 by FRIBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaru Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I've yet to try out the changes that were made to Mag, Excal, and Trinity, but I have played through the new quest. I must say that I wish I had access to that quest as a newbie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dromeos-Prime Posted November 13, 2014 Author Share Posted November 13, 2014 -snip- ^This. Right now Excal is worse than oberon PRE-buff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R34LM Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 The wall of RIP threads basically spells it out. I don't play as those frames, nor do I farm Viver, so I don't feel the hurt as much. But I have got to say those changes were lazy, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zagrax Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Extremely lazy solution. The map should have been changed, and syndicate rep gains need to be addressed with an official statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsiWarp Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Welp, guess I won't accidentally blow up reinforced glass in Corpus ships as Mag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolyDonut3 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Bad. The nerfs were unnecessary, and unfair. They also don't appear to be working properly. The LoS targeting on EV is wonky and the LoS on Shield Polarize appears to be very strict, to a far greater degree than RB's LoS requirements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ectoplex Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 You nerf three frames for the sake of one single freaking map? Wtf, DE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123Olympian Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Well, here is my opinion. People should stop complaining and notice that threads are being locked due to the myriad amounts of the same complaints. Don't get mad about locking. I am not a kiss-up to the mods at all, but I do support the locking. They have a legitimate reason this time, if you hae been reading each thread like I have so far after this update. Have a problem that makes you furious? Make a message and send it to the devs or maybe try to make a foundation for a megathread even. We knew this was going to happen. My idea? Make the whole reputation system be easier to rise in ranks and get those multipier sigils in ASAP. No map changes. No nerfs. No complaints. Over and out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blasron Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 quest is good, new weapon for archwing good, the rest of the fix is pure bull really a big pile of bull to stop people grinding the same node to save the little sanity left in them because of the 300 hour they spend grinding that special piece in the void Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draciusen Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Your OP makes me feel uncomfortable reading it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphyx Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 So let me get this straight, you make the 50th topic about this instead of posting in one of the numerous ones already made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BelugaNinja Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Excal...did not deserve that. They need to revamp the Rep system Stalker is still a coward Archwing is still bland Warframes are out of balance Excal...did not deserve that Scythes? Daggers?! Shotguns?! Excal...did not deserve that Still waiting on Parkour 2.0 Still waiting on Stealth 2.0 Excal did not deserve that. Mag is not where she should be, but crush is still a nice nuke. Excal did not deserve that Excal did not deserve such a nerf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuyver Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I don't play mag, or trinity so I can't speak for their nerfs. I will say that the mag nerf was kind of dumb, because you know.......magnets don't need line of sight to work. Logic isn't very common in this game though. As for excal, I've been playing him steadily for the last several months and was using him with four formas before the frame reworks and his buff. It's absolutely disgusting to see what happened to him. I can't even hit things that are 10 meters in front of me with NO obstruction whatsoever. I'm sure it's a bug, as I've gone on several large open maps and tested it and had it happen numerous times. I like the new quest, even though I'm not new it's a really cool thing to have for the newer players. TL;DR bad idea to nerf frames instead of changing the map to cerberus style and quests are cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scavenge Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 Everything that needed to be said is in the official 15.2.0 thread so yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HolyDonut3 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 You nerf three frames for the sake of one single freaking map? Wtf, DE? Yep. That's DE for you. That's their solution. Never mind the completely broken rep system. Better nerf Trinity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unknow99 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 The wall of RIP threads basically spells it out. I don't play as those frames, nor do I farm Viver, so I don't feel the hurt as much. But I have got to say those changes were lazy, IMO. Ditto...Not really affected by the drama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123Olympian Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 (edited) Honestly, lets think more about the solutions than complaining. Lets get this straight. Make a megathread or something to highlight the issues of the syndicates. Done. All of these problems lead to it, so kill the weed at the root. Yep. That's DE for you. That's their solution. Never mind the completely broken rep system. Better nerf Trinity. Heh, seen you waltzing around the forums, you should just send the devs a message of your opinion, imo. Edited November 13, 2014 by 123Olympian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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