Where is Kingpin?

[ReaperOfTheSouls]

2 years has passed since devstream 80.

Edited September 26, 2018 by ReaperOfTheSouls

[Me.KayOh]

iirc they reached a mature stage of development but disliked how the content turned out and they want to redo it. But with Fortuna in development they have not gotten around to that system again. 

[ReaperOfTheSouls]

That means until fortuna there will be no kingpin, or at all?

[Trichouette]

Devs are focusing on their new toys (outside environment) instead of focusing on what their game already has and making that better.

I think you'll have to wait, they stopped talking about that a long time ago.

[ReaperOfTheSouls]

Thats a shame, i wish they would make warframe a little more than a looter game, and we missed the only opportunity. Now they work of more ways and thing to farm😰.

[Urlan]

Perhaps it will be ready enough to fit in before the end of the year?

[Zahnrad]

36 minutes ago, ReaperOfTheSouls said:

2 years has passed since devstream 80.

But I do not age.

[Kainosh]

What was so good about that "kingpin" anyways?  It didn't catch my interest at all back then, so i dont really remeber...  

[Almighty_Jado]

Soon™

[Nez-Kal]

4 minutes ago, Kainosh said:

What was so good about that "kingpin" anyways?  It didn't catch my interest at all back then, so i dont really remeber...  

I think people heard "Work together with your Clan/Dojo..." and got excited about that, seeing as the last close to exciting thing with working with your Dojo's was the whole Solar Rails dealio. (Hema does NOT count)

I already predicted it was likely going to just be a Solaris style, multi-mission-maybe farm-fest, that depended on your other clan-mates to pitch in, and that the whole thing would get real old real fast. (I mean, how many of you still go out of your way to scan Daily Solaris targets? Huh?)

[Me.KayOh]

36 minutes ago, Tangent-Valley said:

I think people heard "Work together with your Clan/Dojo..." and got excited about that, seeing as the last close to exciting thing with working with your Dojo's was the whole Solar Rails dealio. (Hema does NOT count)

I already predicted it was likely going to just be a Solaris style, multi-mission-maybe farm-fest, that depended on your other clan-mates to pitch in, and that the whole thing would get real old real fast. (I mean, how many of you still go out of your way to scan Daily Solaris targets? Huh?)

Think you mean Simaris

[Me.KayOh]

1 hour ago, Trichouette said:

Devs are focusing on their new toys (outside environment) instead of focusing on what their game already has and making that better.

I think you'll have to wait, they stopped talking about that a long time ago.

+1 

This is why i liked the older Warframe updates. They did more for the content that the game already had, as opposed to brand new content. But apparently even people like Steve and Rebecca do not understand this. Can't do much about that.

[Nez-Kal]

Just now, Me.Church said:

+1 

This is why i liked the older Warframe updates. They did more for the content that the game already had, as opposed to brand new content. But apparently even people like Steve and Rebecca do not understand this. Can't do much about that.

Mm. Yes. The days of Corpus Ship Tiles sets......and that's it. Yeah, no. I think I'm glad they grew the game, and didn't stagnate on the old stuff.
('Cause, let's face it, EVERYTHING outside of early Access versions is basically "New Toys".)

[Me.KayOh]

1 minute ago, Tangent-Valley said:

Mm. Yes. The days of Corpus Ship Tiles sets......and that's it. Yeah, no. I think I'm glad they grew the game, and didn't stagnate on the old stuff.
('Cause, let's face it, EVERYTHING outside of early Access versions is basically "New Toys".)

So like, you missed the Mars/Phobos tileset, the Ceres shipyard tileset, the kuva fortress, the Jupiter tileset. Because iirc, all those happened.

Also, I wasnt referring to anything in specific, but go ahead and make your assumptions.

Go on.

[PoisonHD]

They gave an update on it in the last few months I believe, it's very slowly being redeveloped because they didn't like the direction of the original

[KochDerFrettchen]

23 minutes ago, Me.Church said:

+1 

This is why i liked the older Warframe updates. They did more for the content that the game already had, as opposed to brand new content. But apparently even people like Steve and Rebecca do not understand this. Can't do much about that.

How is 'kingpins' adding to existing content? It's not. It's as new as an open world map. :T

[Nez-Kal]

23 minutes ago, Me.Church said:

So like, you missed the Mars/Phobos tileset, the Ceres shipyard tileset, the kuva fortress, the Jupiter tileset. Because iirc, all those happened.

Also, I wasnt referring to anything in specific, but go ahead and make your assumptions.

Go on.

Well, after looking into your statement, I've come to realize you basically want a Mission-Node version of Destiny, and that's it.

If you look at everything that Warframe has branched off and done, vs what they were before and what STRICTLY grew from just that and that alone, yeah. You'd just have a wanna-be Destiny clone, and nothing else.

True, it'd be a Destiny clone with Bullet-Jumping, as that strictly branched and evolved from the Movement system, yes.......but it'd still be Destiny.


So.....with that in mind........go play Destiny? (And pretend the plot is Warframe)

[(XBOX)GearsMatrix301]

He’s in jail, thanks to spiderman

[Trichouette]

Il y a 18 heures, KochDerFrettchen a dit :

How is 'kingpins' adding to existing content? It's not. It's as new as an open world map. :T

Because it's reusing & focusing on what the game already has instead of trying to shift into something the game is not and hasn't been made for (open area)

[Dabnician]

20 hours ago, Me.Church said:

+1 

This is why i liked the older Warframe updates. They did more for the content that the game already had, as opposed to brand new content. But apparently even people like Steve and Rebecca do not understand this. Can't do much about that.

gotta keep the cash flow coming in, tbh id upgrade to grand master if they let me lol, ah too bad i waited and missed that boat.

[Me.KayOh]

On 2018-09-26 at 7:52 PM, KochDerFrettchen said:

How is 'kingpins' adding to existing content? It's not. It's as new as an open world map. :T

Because the concept was based on syndicate targets.

[Me.KayOh]

On 2018-09-26 at 7:58 PM, Tangent-Valley said:

Well, after looking into your statement, I've come to realize you basically want a Mission-Node version of Destiny, and that's it.

If you look at everything that Warframe has branched off and done, vs what they were before and what STRICTLY grew from just that and that alone, yeah. You'd just have a wanna-be Destiny clone, and nothing else.

True, it'd be a Destiny clone with Bullet-Jumping, as that strictly branched and evolved from the Movement system, yes.......but it'd still be Destiny.


So.....with that in mind........go play Destiny? (And pretend the plot is Warframe)

Clearly you, have no idea what I want.

I just stated the first few examples that came to mind. Not sure why you'd assume that was all I was referring to but incidentally you are of course doing what I told you to do; making assumptions.

But you already know that they did more things such as actually introducing the grineer queens, alad v building zanuka, alad v becoming mutalist alad, scientist tyl regor etc etc. Things like this utilised the factions we already knew and were familiar with and (literally) gave them names and faces which in turned did alot more world building for alot less work.

I don't however expect you to think about that and understand what I mean. Go on and make more assumptions.

FYI the first Destiny game was released in 2014. Warframe never was and never will be a Destiny-clone. Up to this time, Destiny's still cash-grab garbage.

[Me.KayOh]

17 hours ago, xyberviri said:

gotta keep the cash flow coming in, tbh id upgrade to grand master if they let me lol, ah too bad i waited and missed that boat.

yes, in more words, this is exactly what Rebecca stated earlier this year.

[Nez-Kal]

9 minutes ago, Me.Church said:

Because the concept was based on syndicate targets.

Dude.....Dude.....Dude....The idea and concept of Syndicates was ADDED to the game, not grown from some preexisting thing. Please try again. =w="

 

Enemy Factions and "Capture Targets" existed, yes, as well as Assassination mission early on too.....but that's QUITE the leap and bound to take to say Kingpin would sprout from that alone.

[Nez-Kal]

To Summarize this entire Topic:

"Where is the Thing DE said they were going to add to the Game?"

"DE should stop focusing on adding new things to the game to add this new Thing to the Game."

"How dare you say I'm contradicting my points, you're wrong for pointing out a critical flaw in my statement and you're just making things up."