(XBOX)Mastermitchel89 Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Marvelous_A said: I really like Caliban for some reason but it took me 3 Archon Shards and a helminth ability to reach a usable state. Which is a lot of effort. It is quite annoying being forced to use one specific stat upgrade {Casting speed} Then again no one sharing their builds really gives a question of How did everyone make him not work? But then others have little issue? Build of Mine Spoiler Aura, Energy siphon. Exilus, P sure footed. obviously Arcanes, Molt Efficiency Archon shards, 2 Casting speed Tau, 2 Duration, 1 Strength Umbral Vitality and strength P Flow, P Continuity, Stretch and augur Reach Helminthed 1 with Nourish, could even go for gloom Optional Molt Reconstruct or Augmented Normal Steel fibre, Adaptation or Shield Delay mods ie two spare mod slots. And a spare Arcane spot i have little to fill with With this i can actually have fun on Archon missions with usually any corrosive frost weapon Helios deconstructor and sentient wrath ??? Testing? Edited November 2, 2023 by (XBOX)Mastermitchel89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waeleto Posted November 2, 2023 Author Share Posted November 2, 2023 5 hours ago, Skoomaseller said: my guy yareli is strong and not useless I'm sorry but yareli was a mistake, if you enjoy her tho good for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KindleBlaze Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 (edited) I tried Caliban the first time he was introduced. I heard a lot of complaints about him, but I play him easily on SP and Archon shard hunts. Yes his spinning ability is really dumb, but all of his other abilities are really good. His minions can't really die and can keep enemies busy, they buff up Caliban shields and his 4 can strip armor and shields, and on that area for a while, who ever steps there, loses armor and shields. His 2 is really good if you wish to remove enemies from defence target or console. I agree that his passive is not really that great, especially as it can't replace the mod. I placed shards in him and changed his 1 with gloom, and I do not have problems with energy or survivability or anything. But I did that only after I played him for a while and saw that he is actually very sturdy frame. Main problem with Caliban is that he was just thrown in the game. No explanation, no lore, nothing. Just... "Here, grind those boring bounties and get new frame" DE should have really gave a bit of attention to that frame. Even Yareli got a quest/comic something. Edited November 2, 2023 by KindleBlaze 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoomaseller Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 3 hours ago, Waeleto said: I'm sorry but yareli was a mistake wrong 3 hours ago, Waeleto said: if you enjoy her tho good for you thank you, I pity anyone who misses out on peak 🥰 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aruquae Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 4 hours ago, Waeleto said: I'm sorry but yareli was a mistake, if you enjoy her tho good for you She’s actually a very fun frame Top 5 favs, her only problem is the sheer amount of bugs that DE refuses to fix. Sure there’s her “Merulina should have less limitations” which is true, but we should really go with the “Yareli needs her own QoL update” as her bugs really do ruin the amazing experience. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Tursko Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 21 hours ago, Skoomaseller said: what are your hopes as 1 of 3 Caliban mains worldwide, if Caliban were to be the next one on the rework list? Other than the Typholyst transformation, something that streamlines his abilities. His 2 is decent, but enemies being pushed away in a Looter Shooter is rarely good. His 3 is just clunky to not only be rooted in place while casting, but to have to spam it 3 times....every minute or so. His 4 feels alright, but I wouldn't complain about being able to move while using it. 22 hours ago, (PSN)Hopper_Orouk said: You just reminded me! I had Caliban in my inventory and forgot to delete him today. thanks :) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoomaseller Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Malikili said: She’s actually a very fun frame Top 5 favs, her only problem is the sheer amount of bugs that DE refuses to fix. Sure there’s her “Merulina should have less limitations” which is true, but we should really go with the “Yareli needs her own QoL update” as her bugs really do ruin the amazing experience. 17 minutes ago, Dr.Tursko said: Other than the Typholyst transformation, something that streamlines his abilities. His 2 is decent, but enemies being pushed away in a Looter Shooter is rarely good. His 3 is just clunky to not only be rooted in place while casting, but to have to spam it 3 times....every minute or so. His 4 feels alright, but I wouldn't complain about being able to move while using it. what typholyst transformation? and I absolutely agree w/ sentient wrath. iirc it also has an enemy cap which has no business being there if I'm being honest. I think the lifted status it gives should change to something like suspending enemies in the air like Yareli's Sea Snares Edited November 2, 2023 by Skoomaseller 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--Leyenda-yight6 Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 hace 7 horas, Waeleto dijo: I'm sorry but yareli was a mistake, if you enjoy her tho good for you I'm sure Undertow was too, I bet one of its developer's regrets is creating it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--Leyenda-yight6 Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 hace 7 horas, KindleBlaze dijo: I tried Caliban the first time he was introduced. I heard a lot of complaints about him, but I play him easily on SP and Archon shard hunts. Yes his spinning ability is really dumb, but all of his other abilities are really good. His minions can't really die and can keep enemies busy, they buff up Caliban shields and his 4 can strip armor and shields, and on that area for a while, who ever steps there, loses armor and shields. His 2 is really good if you wish to remove enemies from defence target or console. I agree that his passive is not really that great, especially as it can't replace the mod. I placed shards in him and changed his 1 with gloom, and I do not have problems with energy or survivability or anything. But I did that only after I played him for a while and saw that he is actually very sturdy frame. Main problem with Caliban is that he was just thrown in the game. No explanation, no lore, nothing. Just... "Here, grind those boring bounties and get new frame" DE should have really gave a bit of attention to that frame. Even Yareli got a quest/comic something. Caliban just needs some tweaking and reworking of his 1. I thought Caliban would appear at some point in the new war, something we would face at the end of the adventure. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waeleto Posted November 2, 2023 Author Share Posted November 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, --Leyenda-yight6 said: I'm sure Undertow was too, I bet one of its developer's regrets is creating it. 100% true, so glad it's gone and hydroid is in much better place now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raarsi Posted November 2, 2023 Share Posted November 2, 2023 13 hours ago, Waeleto said: I'm sorry but yareli was a mistake Inaros called, he said "challenge accepted". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Player244024418 Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 On 2023-11-01 at 9:31 AM, Dr.Tursko said: Nourish over his 1 Ability Synergy: Nourish requires at least 1 enemy swallowed by Feast130xWhite.png Feast to be alive in Grendel's gut to cast. How does this work then? Caliban doesn't swallow anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiltskillet Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 19 minutes ago, (XBOX)Player244024418 said: How does this work then? Caliban doesn't swallow anything Injected Nourish doesn't have the requirement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoomaseller Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 38 minutes ago, (XBOX)Player244024418 said: Ability Synergy: Nourish requires at least 1 enemy swallowed by Feast130xWhite.png Feast to be alive in Grendel's gut to cast. How does this work then? Caliban doesn't swallow anything helminth nourish doesn't heal and doesn't require vored enemies 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)GEN-Son_17 Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 On 2023-11-01 at 10:00 AM, Waeleto said: I wouldn't go as far as saying he's the new hydroid when yareli exists Are you saying Yareli is weak? Ahhhhhahahaaaaa! Are you nuts bro? She is one of the most lethal frames in the game! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)GEN-Son_17 Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 20 hours ago, Waeleto said: I'm sorry but yareli was a mistake, if you enjoy her tho good for you Let's see: Two fantastic CCs, crit damage increaser, four survivability checks, high damage dealer, smaller hit box, secondary weapon enhancer, virtually automatically activated condition overload with her blades, very high energy pool, can bypass knockdown....dude, where is the problem? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)rexis12 Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 Yarellia is good now, now that like her 1 was added an entirely different effect, and Merulina is a budget Warding Halo, and that her 4 isn't made worse with Casting Speed (Because YES that WAS a thing, if you casting speed was too fast they wouldn't gather as much). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoomaseller Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 5 hours ago, (PSN)rexis12 said: Yarellia is good now, now that like her 1 was added an entirely different effect, and Merulina is a budget Warding Halo, and that her 4 isn't made worse with Casting Speed (Because YES that WAS a thing, if you casting speed was too fast they wouldn't gather as much). *Warding Halo is a budget Merulina 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)rexis12 Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 8 minutes ago, Skoomaseller said: *Warding Halo is a budget Merulina Try picking up a Primary or a Melee then :P 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoomaseller Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 39 minutes ago, (PSN)rexis12 said: Try picking up a Primary or a Melee then :P >imagine needing some ""primary"" or ""melee"" and not indulging in 200% fire rate red crit secondary ngmi (please DE allow primary use on merulina) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aruquae Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 Just now, Skoomaseller said: (please DE allow primary use on merulina) Better yet allow secondaries on Merulina Constantly getting that bug that locks me out of using secondaries 🥲 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunderthefirmament Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 52 minutes ago, Skoomaseller said: *Warding Halo is a budget Merulina It's too bugged for that. Yareli is far better than she was, but even you have bemoaned her bugs in the past. Also, Merulina doesn't have Safeguard. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aruquae Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, sunderthefirmament said: Also, Merulina doesn't have Safeguard. I would love Yareli to have safeguard Imagine being able to force people on a k-drive… Limbo banish would be forgotten. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunderthefirmament Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, Malikili said: I would love Yareli to have safeguard Imagine being able to force people on a k-drive… Limbo banish would be forgotten. what have I done 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aruquae Posted November 3, 2023 Share Posted November 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, sunderthefirmament said: 6 minutes ago, Malikili said: what have I done You created an entire cult consisting of saving those who don’t like k-drives, by forcing them onto one. Glorious 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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