Dairaion Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 Why does DE keep ignoring issues with Drifter and Operator cosmetics? Cosmetics are 90% of warframe at any given moment. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ominumi Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 My guess is the same reason why void shell can't be apply to old stuff. They're just too different. Too much work on DE staff to adjust. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xaero Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 They refit old cosmetics for Drfiter in batches and roll them out with big updates. You'll just have to wait. My issue is with refit quality. Drifter suits are either overbulked or dystrophic. Some are in between. Makes it impossible to combine different parts. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circle_of_Psi Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 4 hours ago, ominumi said: Too much work on DE staff to adjust. This could be a T-shirt of how much this has been said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genitive Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 6 hours ago, Dairaion said: Why does DE keep ignoring issues with Drifter and Operator cosmetics? Cosmetics are 90% of warframe at any given moment. I've been asking this myself for 5 years. Not the wolf hood specifically, but the overall poor quality of their cosmetic options. The best we can do is complain about it until they notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvid Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 2 hours ago, Xaero said: Makes it impossible to combine different parts. To be fair, that's often the case with the Operator versions as well. In some cases items within the same set don't match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnstarPrime Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 22 hours ago, Dairaion said: Why does DE keep ignoring issues with Drifter and Operator cosmetics? Cosmetics are 90% of warframe at any given moment. DE isn't ignoring it though? They've told us that they're working on it, detailed how they're working on it, and they've demonstrated that they're walking their talk by periodically releasing these updates to batches of cosmetics. It'll take time to get to every last item, but there's no ignoring going on here. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venus-Venera Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 vor 11 Minuten schrieb UnstarPrime: DE isn't ignoring it though? They've told us that they're working on it, detailed how they're working on it, and they've demonstrated that they're walking their talk by periodically releasing these updates to batches of cosmetics. It'll take time to get to every last item, but there's no ignoring going on here. Even if that's the case, it still doesn't help. Because they should either tell us the exact release date or not feed us any fairy tales. Because there were too many cases where updates took forever and then nothing came that was promised. So everything is not okay. And I hardly believe that they will get better. because they don't care about anything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--Leyenda-yight6 Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 hace 12 horas, Venus-Venera dijo: Even if that's the case, it still doesn't help. Because they should either tell us the exact release date or not feed us any fairy tales. Because there were too many cases where updates took forever and then nothing came that was promised. So everything is not okay. And I hardly believe that they will get better. because they don't care about anything. Man, you have an unhealthy relationship with this game, I see you ranting about everything in every thread on this forum. If they say they are working on it but don't know when it will be ready, it would be absurd to give an exact date; making promises without being sure that they will be able to keep them would be a very bad idea. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venus-Venera Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 vor 35 Minuten schrieb --Leyenda-yight6: Man, you have an unhealthy relationship with this game Only if it is important to me does it not mean “unhealthy”. and stop playing doctor. 👎 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyErvin Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 I really want the Wolf Hood for the Drifter, one of the helmets I want the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genitive Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 (edited) 17 hours ago, UnstarPrime said: DE isn't ignoring it though? They've told us that they're working on it, detailed how they're working on it, and they've demonstrated that they're walking their talk by periodically releasing these updates to batches of cosmetics. It'll take time to get to every last item, but there's no ignoring going on here. I'd be more willing to believe it if what they worked on was of good quality. But with the latest batch of drifter cosmetics you have zauba apparel that has no physics. That's just now. We also have helmets removing facial hair, Sirocco glued to the hand, etc. I agree with you that we shouldn't expect everything at once, but issues with operators and drifters have been with us for so long it's high time for DE to finally do something about it. There is a thread about misaligned amp scaffolds that's been going for 6 years already. At this point this should be fixed just to reward the person that started that thread for their patience. If Kahl has overall better quality than the player character, the devs have something backwards. Edited May 14 by Genitive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trst Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 7 minutes ago, Genitive said: I'd be more willing to believe it if what they worked on was of good quality. But with the latest batch of drifter cosmetics you have zauba apparel that has no physics. That's just now. We also have helmets removing facial hair, Sirocco glued to the hand, etc. I agree with you that we shouldn't expect everything at once, but issues with operators and drifters have been with us for so long it's high time for DE to finally do something about it. There is a thread about misaligned amp scaffolds that's been going for 6 years already. At this point this should be fixed just to reward the person that started that thread for their patience. If Kahl has overall better quality than the player character, the devs have something backwards. Matter of priorities. Porting cosmetics that players already bought and minor visual bugs vs working on new content and more impactful bugs. Then the issue between working on something till it's fully done vs just getting it out the door. For a company it's been well demonstrated by the industry as a whole that getting new things out the door and fixing it later is the optimal approach for both getting money and engagement. So it makes sense for DE to prioritize not working on something older that won't get them much of a return and especially better for them to prioritize entirely new content. Then there's what the players want. You're talking about wanting quality and older things worked on more than newer. Meanwhile OP's sentiment seems to be just wanting it out the door asap. And you'll find every other combination of opinions on such a topic throughout the community. Ultimately there's no winning with whatever DE does as even if they just halted everything and ported/polished all of the Drifter cosmetics you'll have all the players who use the Operator instead and those who want new things prioritized ranging from not engaging with DE's work to outright upset at the "wasted" dev time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genitive Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 28 minutes ago, trst said: Matter of priorities. Porting cosmetics that players already bought and minor visual bugs vs working on new content and more impactful bugs. Then the issue between working on something till it's fully done vs just getting it out the door. Priorities are fine, but when they release those cosmetics, they could at least look decent. I don't care if they port one transference suit a year, just make it so it works properly. If they can find time to fix Mesa Prime's ass, they surely can find time to fix some of the operator/drifter problems. If they aim to just get it out of the door, we will repeat what happened to the first batch of transference suits, where they still suffer from clipping and lack of physics years after their release. It is even more upsetting when you know that they had worked mostly fine before they reworked them into the current modular system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venus-Venera Posted May 14 Share Posted May 14 vor einer Stunde schrieb Genitive: Priorities are fine, but when they release those cosmetics, they could at least look decent. I don't care if they port one transference suit a year, just make it so it works properly. If they can find time to fix Mesa Prime's ass, they surely can find time to fix some of the operator/drifter problems. If they aim to just get it out of the door, we will repeat what happened to the first batch of transference suits, where they still suffer from clipping and lack of physics years after their release. It is even more upsetting when you know that they had worked mostly fine before they reworked them into the current modular system. The thing about the cosmetics is definitely intentional. because according to them it has to fit “into the overall” picture. Because I'm more than sure that the people there can design good things. Even causal designers from Steam create much better skils and effects than things from the shop. Because that looks ugly and the motivation to buy something like that with real life cash is zero. But when they finally release good looking and modern stuff, then other content will look too ugly in comparison. which was also the case with Bramma bow. sounds, skin were n1 back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dairaion Posted May 16 Author Share Posted May 16 On 2024-05-14 at 8:46 AM, --Leyenda-yight6 said: Man, you have an unhealthy relationship with this game, I see you ranting about everything in every thread on this forum. If they say they are working on it but don't know when it will be ready, it would be absurd to give an exact date; making promises without being sure that they will be able to keep them would be a very bad idea. Concern troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dairaion Posted May 16 Author Share Posted May 16 I have one dream, it's not a cyberpunk story with a NIN backing track or explaining Stalker. I just want to put the Wolf Helmet with the full Saturn Six armor and syandana set on my Grineer drifter armor without the big clipping Sheev. I want my operator to look more grineer than the grineer themselves. It would be cool if i could have other grineer stuff too like a full squad of liches, a premade grineer based dojo but they'll never do it. But they can do the former. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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