Brynslustafir Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Previously, the only mission I would really use Vauban for was Xini, but now that Xini is Corpus I am much more likely to just use Frost instead. Vauban's greatest strength is his ability to keep infested from reaching the pod, but now that strength doesn't really mean much unless a new infested outbreak starts and one of the missions is Defense. Vauban is the best frame for infested defense, but now infested defense missions are only occasionaly available. And even when they are available, the level might be too low for Vauban to be necessary. It's kinda sad really. Vauban used to be one of my most used frames, but now I have almost no reason to use him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhoyzu Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 i don't follow..... trollban was always useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brynslustafir Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share Posted December 16, 2013 i don't follow..... trollban was always useless Wrong. A well placed Vortex or Bastille would keep ALL of the infested safely away from the pod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noveltyhero Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 He is not useless you just have to know where to place your Bastille and Vortex vs other factions. VS Infested it was really simple, and you need to know the map well and spawn points :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saravind Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 he is still king with a frost accompanying him anything gets into globe you cant handle just slap a vortex down... and his teslas are actually better than most think the chance of stagger from electricity is handy sometimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiniko Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Previously, the only mission I would really use Vauban for was Xini, but now that Xini is Corpus I am much more likely to just use Frost instead. Vauban's greatest strength is his ability to keep infested from reaching the pod, but now that strength doesn't really mean much unless a new infested outbreak starts and one of the missions is Defense. Vauban is the best frame for infested defense, but now infested defense missions are only occasionaly available. And even when they are available, the level might be too low for Vauban to be necessary. It's kinda sad really. Vauban used to be one of my most used frames, but now I have almost no reason to use him. ODD ftw <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brynslustafir Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share Posted December 16, 2013 He is not useless you just have to know where to place your Bastille and Vortex vs other factions. VS Infested it was really simple, and you need to know the map well and spawn points :) I suppose. Maybe I just got really used to that simplicity. But Vaubans vulnerability to ranged damage is still an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coren024 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Derelicts, they aren't as hard to get to as people assume. 6500 credits, 5 nav coords, some nano spores that will be returned in less than one run, some salvage, and some circuits. I don't know if it's just me, but the only part of building one of the keys that I have any trouble with is the circuits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdBazokatone Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 he is useful as always in T3 defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phobose Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I dont know about u but I have a on the go build with vauban chock full of tesla bounce vastile and Vortex. For those of u who just use bounce to troll u dont know the infiniteness of bounce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladereap3r Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Previously, the only mission I would really use Vauban for was Xini, but now that Xini is Corpus I am much more likely to just use Frost instead. Vauban's greatest strength is his ability to keep infested from reaching the pod, but now that strength doesn't really mean much unless a new infested outbreak starts and one of the missions is Defense. Vauban is the best frame for infested defense, but now infested defense missions are only occasionaly available. And even when they are available, the level might be too low for Vauban to be necessary. It's kinda sad really. Vauban used to be one of my most used frames, but now I have almost no reason to use him. ...i don't have Vauban....but my Ember cries out for regular planet infestation missions. - she's a bit poorly in higher level other factions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Well i always use vauban when im doing T3 Defense. Im just placing my vortex to save everything. You know.. Vortex Sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
direcyphre Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Wrong. A well placed Vortex or Bastille would keep ALL of the infested safely away from the pod. So does... killing everything before reaching the pod. js Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreampuke Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 (edited) Well i always use vauban when im doing T3 Defense. Im just placing my vortex to save everything. You know.. Vortex Sucks. Yeah he's still very valuable in T3 def. Edited December 16, 2013 by dreampuke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porn Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 But, Vortex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noveltyhero Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I dont know about u but I have a on the go build with vauban chock full of tesla bounce vastile and Vortex. For those of u who just use bounce to troll u dont know the infiniteness of bounce. Bounce is actually useful at holding back strong enemies like ancients and fusion moas but not against numbers. However you have to admit, seeing enemies bounce like that and ragdoll is priceless :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 So does... killing everything before reaching the pod. js What do you do when you get swarmed by 20 60+ lvl poison ancients ? What do you do when defense wave is higher than 50 wave? Playing 20 wave is easy. He gets usefull after waves gets harder and harder. Same with the Loki. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alighierian Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 (edited) I don't follow your problem. my demoban is still as useful as ever. in fact, I use it for all (mobile) defences I play. against weaker enemies (for example on Kappa, Sedna); tactical tesla turrets in groups of 5, or on teammates against tough stuff (for example t3 (mobile) defence): Bastille when the enemies are rushing, and vortex to gather them for easier pickings. with my 465 energy and max streamline, I can easily keep up the tesla defence on kappa, and with a bit of energy gathering I can keep a bastille + occasional vortex up in a t3 defence say all you want, but no matter how good your team is, bastille is priceless and absolutely required if you wish to play top level defence against ALL enemy types. why? because the melee of say, an ancient, can whack the pod in a few hits. Frost's snow globe protects against ranged attacks, but can't stop rushing enemies enough to guarantee the safety of the pod. Edited December 16, 2013 by Alighierian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BladeMaverick Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Vauban to me is still one of the best frames for defense or survival. Find yourself a little niche in survival to hole out in and throw a vortex down at the choke point. Easy kills. Combined with Nekros, you'll rarely have to run out to get air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artreus Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Bastille + Loki's radial disarm seems to work fine for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkmoone1 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 (edited) Vauban is still one of the most versatile and effective frames in the game. He has a ability for any situation at almost any given moment, can throw them while reloading, and can combine abilities for added effectiveness. This frame is not gonna lose effectiveness unless the frame itself gets nerfed, not the game. Edited December 17, 2013 by Darkmoone1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fumblewatt Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 I suppose. Maybe I just got really used to that simplicity. But Vaubans vulnerability to ranged damage is still an issue. Well you answered your own question, build him less squishy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demons3ye Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Also, orokin derelicts offer pretty nice infested def. Wave 30 gives us lv100 infested. Pretty good xp, and fun with four Pentas :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiegraf Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 *watches Grineers and Corpus tumble in ragdoll out of a doorway into a ceiling-placed Vortex, chuckling a bit to himself like a little kid* Not really :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twilight053 Posted December 18, 2013 Share Posted December 18, 2013 Maybe DE's trying to make sure that ODD is the main Infested defense which has S#&$ damn lots of muttmass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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