StinkyPygmy Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 I've soloed 45 minutes T3 with Nekros. Squishy, squishy Nekros. And no, we won't get old Trinity back. We'll never get old Trinity back. Surprisingly enough, invulnerability skills that can last 30 seconds or more are not actually a good idea. At all. With the changes to how she works now, she actually requires some skill to use Blessing - instead of pre-casting to get that 30 seconds of god-mode before you even see a monster, you have to use it in combat to get the most benefit, working as a proper healer instead of a game-breaker. Old Trinity is dead and gone. New Trinity is a step in the right direction. ^^^ This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecolin- Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Trinity was a easy ticket to end game. Not 10 minutes of T3. Nevertheless, she gone old sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
se05239 Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 She is better now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdFinitum Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 (edited) If Trinity can be used as before just with button spamming now you have proven that a) the nerf was useless and b) the game just became more inconvinient / less fun. Now pro gamers using a button spamming macro will have the same OP Trinity and for the rest her usage will just drop more ( since she was already rarely used, mostly in premade groups only ). Four Rhinos will be as powerful as a mixed group with a Trinity anyways. Bye diversity. Edited May 19, 2014 by AdFinitum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deidaku Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 omg WHY IS IT ALWAYS THE SAME COMPLAINT? "Hurhur you can't do T3 40 min without old trinity" WTF? you're that bad? You can get that far with any frame. Without godmode 1 button invincibility Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darksinger Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Old Trinity is dead and gone. New Trinity is a step in the right direction. Towards the forgotten frame pile? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterKha Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 If Trinity can be used as before just with button spamming now you have proven that a) the nerf was useless and b) the game just became more inconvinient / less fun. Now pro gamers using a button spamming macro will have the same OP Trinity and for the rest her usage will just drop more ( since she was already rarely used, mostly in premade groups only ). Four Rhinos will be as powerful as a mixed group with a Trinity anyways. Bye diversity. No. Her blessing is now a High Risk/High reward ability rather than a No Risk/High Reward ability. You can't have something that good without putting yourself at risk in order to activate it which is what this method of playing requires, dropping yourself down to near death. There is no buttom spamming because if they want to achieve full damage reduction then they're going to either hit themselves with self inflicting weapons or stand in gun fire until they're low enough to activate blessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monolake Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Equip Raege+ Quick thinking and learn to time to activate Blessing at low HP - you will get 99,9% damage reduction. Its not as easy now and you can get bursted down by high leve mobs, but its still possible to abuse Blessing to get near invulnerability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdFinitum Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Towards the forgotten frame pile? Nice one. Right on top of the other failed healer, Oberon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mastikator2 Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Towards the forgotten frame pile? Towards the even more overpowered pile. Blessing is still godmode. Trinity wasn't nerfed, she was buffed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyria Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 I quite detest her new Blessing. Invulnerability had to go for the sake of balance, but the new Blessing is a bit of a juggling act. I want to spend my time playing the game, not carry a dedicated self-damage weapon in order to circumvent the nerf to have my Ult function optimally. But if I don't my usefulness to the team is rivaled by deployable gear. How sad is that?! I would have liked to see a full rework of Trinity instead of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkyPygmy Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Nice one. Right on top of the other failed healer, Oberon. How is oberon a failed healer? Its not something he specialises in like trinity does. Its obviously going to be less effective. In fact I find its more effective then WOL simply because my team can't prematurely end the targets life squandering my energy and heals. also, placement isn't an issue. Its essentially Blessing without godmode and heals periodically rather then instantly. For the love of god how do any of you people play the game when everything appears to be useless in your eyes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkyPygmy Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 I quite detest her new Blessing. Invulnerability had to go for the sake of balance, but the new Blessing is a bit of a juggling act. I want to spend my time playing the game, not carry a dedicated self-damage weapon in order to circumvent the nerf to have my Ult function optimally. But if I don't my usefulness to the team is rivaled by deployable gear. How sad is that?! I would have liked to see a full rework of Trinity instead of this. Or try Trins terribly under utilised skill Well of Life and hope your team is smart enough to not unload entire magazines into the effected enemy? Basically all this change does is make WOL relevant and encourage people to use it, and hopefully the player base to not be so ignorant of its function that they ignore it entirely and then complain because you didnt use blessing to heal them when they took a tiny bit of damage and got downed 2 mins later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allenaattori Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Meh. Yesterday we went to 75 min with a pug team and we left cause they decided so... rewards were so bad also, lots of Latron Prime recievers and Lex barrels... Banshee (me) Nyx Rhino Rhino Prime -Me spamming Sonar to discover their position and shoot them with Dread. One arrow one gunner down, almost everytime. They didn't know how Sonar worked. :| -Nyx doing absorb most of the time to aggro on her and let us recover, reload, get energy, etc. -Rhinos were either stomping to calm them down or Roaring for more damage. That's it. I would rather have a Loki to disarm other than a Trinity to go ahead in the mission. For me Trinity wasn't a big deal unless you were using the LinkBlessing exploit to make them kill themselves. (Not hating Trinity ;o just saying she was/is not a must have frame to survive longer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuyver Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 ok lets take out the whole t3 over 40 min thing. bad point. im sorry 4 that. but in generall: do u think we get the old trinity back? You can't really say that you can't do high level T3 missions with trinity, then say "let's take that out." You literally just took your argument and pissed on it lmao. I for one like the new blessing, it makes you pay more attention instead of spamming it every 30 seconds. At least it's not like oberon where you can spam team health restores that are better than his renewal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)ToastyFairy01 Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Forty minutes of T3 Survival is pretty easy. Even a Booben can do it. Honestly, I run through T3s when I'm releveling my weapons after slapping Formas on them. It's really not that difficult. In the Void, Zephyr can reign supreme considering that the only threatening enemies at that point are things that can melee (but even then I only use Zephyr when my friend and I are doing serious runs and those tend to last over a hour or so before we get bored). My preferred frame is Nekros, although I cycle through all of my frames rather frequently. I've found that Loki, Zephyr, (sickeningly) Nova, Valkyr, and (oh so surprisingly) Rhino are easy uses for the Void. Nekros is a bit of a flip of the coin at times, although I've had good runs and bad runs with him. I'm a bit "meh" towards opinionating the other frames. Out of all the frames I've ever used, Trinity and Nova are by far my least favorite. Even without crutching on the old Blessing, a Trinity could easily survive the Void. However, I will give credit where credit is due. Trinity is the absolute only frame that is capable of laughing at every Nightmare condition. That is something that I doubt will be taken away from her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomFruit Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Towards the even more overpowered pile. Blessing is still godmode. Trinity wasn't nerfed, she was buffed. I have no idea where you got this idea from, but it's wrong. New blessing is directly and strongly inferior to old blessing (100% DR at any moment, vs. variable DR at any random moment, can only get maximum DR if the person under attack has QT, can't activate blessing proactively). New EV is slightly superior to old EV (if everything dies too fast to use EV then you probably don't need the energy anyway, plus you can always single out tough enemies to vampire). Overall, it's a nerf. Whether the nerf was justified is a separate discussion (the OP and myself say no, others say yes), but it *is* a nerf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5tarlight Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 I like the change to Trinity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiegraf Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 I've soloed 45 minutes T3 with Nekros. Squishy, squishy Nekros. And no, we won't get old Trinity back. We'll never get old Trinity back. Surprisingly enough, invulnerability skills that can last 30 seconds or more are not actually a good idea. At all. With the changes to how she works now, she actually requires some skill to use Blessing - instead of pre-casting to get that 30 seconds of god-mode before you even see a monster, you have to use it in combat to get the most benefit, working as a proper healer instead of a game-breaker. Old Trinity is dead and gone. New Trinity is a step in the right direction. The part in bold is important to notice : she used a timed god mode switch that could be renewed instantly once it went off and, with the right build, could do so indefinitely while recovering her energy through passive regen with Energy Siphon + maxed Efficiency or Energy Vampire while under Blessing. The fact now that her Blessing depends on the healing done mean she actually covers her role as healer much more appropriately instead of being Warframe's "IDDQD" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kharn-The-Betrayer Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 TRINITY IS FINE NOW ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Suck0nIt- Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 They nerfed her for a reason. It probaly would help EVERYONE grow as a better warframe player with her immortalilty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Pengu_Imperialus Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 They nerfed her for a reason. It probaly would help EVERYONE grow as a better warframe player with her immortalilty. It's like a pretty smart change. Can't wait to try it. Now they just have to have self damage bypass link or more likely just not transfer through link she will be in a great spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tennonymous Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 (edited) Oh waah waah, your precious godmode is gone. Suck it up and learn to play the game without it. Just to add, she could still use a nerf. Edited May 19, 2014 by Whoops... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatpig84 Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 If Trinity can be used as before just with button spamming now you have proven that a) the nerf was useless and b) the game just became more inconvinient / less fun. Now pro gamers using a button spamming macro will have the same OP Trinity and for the rest her usage will just drop more ( since she was already rarely used, mostly in premade groups only ). Four Rhinos will be as powerful as a mixed group with a Trinity anyways. Bye diversity. Macro spamming what ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AscendantWyvern Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 So why nerf her instead of buffing the underplayed Warframes like Oberon ? What's your opinion ? I have to say Trinity was my favorite Warframe so i might be a little bit emotional here :D So lets talk about that :) Buffs are coming, if you havent noticed Nyx, Ash, and Banshee's buffs, there are more to come. A couple more for Ash, and I think Nekros and Oberon are next after that. Trinity was flat out invincible...to think she didn't need a nerf is thick-skulled... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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