darkone96 Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 Melee is still unviable when it compares to guns. The combos are useless and really don't add much to the gameplay since all the enemies die very easily anyways and have poor AI (the new grinder melee enemies are a joke). They're just there for the "completionists". Melee 2.0 was a big letdown to me. I honestly thought they would IMPROVE the gameplay, but no, everything is just as useless as always and locked behind RNG/ grind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyEnneract Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 Need more damage multipliers like Crimson Dervish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostosti Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 combos don't work unless you equip the melee weapons first, which makes it redundant for me. Switching weapons is too slow and buggy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoomsDayDan Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 Some got dashes, some got crazy wide-reaching moves, some have guaranteed procs but they could do more to make combos feel better to pull off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)IIIDevoidIII Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 Melee is a lot more viable than it had been before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherIcarus Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 Melee 2.0 was exactly what they set out for it to be, it buffed melee weapons and now they are viable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReizoRyuu Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 Melee is perfectly viable, unless your definition of "guns" is really "boltor prime". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vyrn Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 It could use some adjusting and some changes, but it's definitely an improvement. Plus, sometimes melee will beat out guns, but it's mostly just against Infested lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkone96 Posted July 13, 2014 Author Share Posted July 13, 2014 Melee is a lot more viable than it had been before. They might have added a bit more damage, but it's still a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkone96 Posted July 13, 2014 Author Share Posted July 13, 2014 Melee 2.0 was exactly what they set out for it to be, it buffed melee weapons and now they are viable. I'm talking more about the combos/stances. They don't add anything. There is no need for "far reaching combos" when you can just mash E. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toddwjp Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 They might have added a bit more damage, but it's still a joke. yes it not as effective as a gun but guns have range while melee is i would say much more useful at close range and allows you to attack if you come up to a reload as a melee unit charges you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KairaSilvermist Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 I have found myself running up to Pluto, only utilizing Hate with an unfinished channeling efficiency build on a rage-valkyr :T Melee 2.0, viable or no, is FUN, at least for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostosti Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 look in game at the teammates, they rarely use melee. And if they do, its E-E-E-E-E etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherIcarus Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 I'm talking more about the combos/stances. They don't add anything. There is no need for "far reaching combos" when you can just mash E. There is really no game were the combos are needed though (Exclude PvP fighting games of course) in a PvE game the combos are there if the player wants them to be nothing more, the same can be said about gun if you want to use the Boltor prime you can but it is not needed you can do every mission in the game with a modded Braton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkone96 Posted July 13, 2014 Author Share Posted July 13, 2014 My point is that stance mods are stupid. Sorry for being blunt, but it's the truth. They're completely useless and unviable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarash2110 Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 melee 2.0 was generally a nerf to melee, unless we are talking about melees that got stat buffs, the combos got to be NOTHING, if you dont equip the weapon, or if you don't get a stance thats locked behind an RNG wall you will do the same 2 or 1 hits over and over again, the only thing that really improved melee was channeling and all of the channel related mods, but even THAT is locked behind the melee equipping feature, so in general, unless you want to give up using ranged weapons, or unless you don't mind constantly having to switch weapons, melee got nerfed for you in melee 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bejuizb Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 They might have added a bit more damage, but it's still a joke. Tell that to my Dual Zorens that destroy lvl90 enemies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flamed Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 Melee is only viable with Loki or Ash. Melee really needs a damage buff or channeling buff. I think melee should deal more damage than guns since you have to be close enough to hit. Personally, I think the channeling mods needs a buff. The higher cost of energy is not worth it for those channeling mods. The only good channeling mod is the life steal one. They should include more mods that increase channeling efficiency but reduce other other stuff like crit chance to make them more similar to corrupted mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechNexus Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 Yeah, melee 2.0 is totally unviable it doesn't clear the entire room in a phentosecond, worst thing ever DE pls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10twenty4 Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 -removed charge attacks -worthless combos -still no air attacks -melee attacks still wrestle control over your movement away from you -melee and movement use the same stamina, meaning going fast cuts into your ability to melee and vice-versa Yeah, melee is still useless. I have my amphis for fast, nothing else is worth looking into compared to guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)CrimsonShinku Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 melee 2.0 was generally a nerf to melee, unless we are talking about melees that got stat buffs, the combos got to be NOTHING, if you dont equip the weapon, or if you don't get a stance thats locked behind an RNG wall you will do the same 2 or 1 hits over and over again, the only thing that really improved melee was channeling and all of the channel related mods, but even THAT is locked behind the melee equipping feature, so in general, unless you want to give up using ranged weapons, or unless you don't mind constantly having to switch weapons, melee got nerfed for you in melee 2.0 i like that at least the dual zorens unequipped slap the enemy so fast it gets stunlocked, so it has a liiiiittle bit of usefulness, but that doesn't require a stance to do. only stance i've found useful is orthos due to the horizontal strikes which allows me to mow down (but i can just spinattack) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamescell Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 (edited) Melee 2.0 could easily become viable if they increased the damage of certain moves and broke up combo chains, allowing players to choose the specific move they want at any given time, and chain it to whatever the next move that they want is. combining stances and adding air attacks/knockups would also help. As for the OP, completely agree. Edited July 13, 2014 by Jamescell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReizoRyuu Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 My point is that stance mods are stupid. Sorry for being blunt, but it's the truth. They're completely useless and unviable. This is so false it makes my head hurt: Crimson dervish, shattering storm and crushing ruin do so much more extra damage that you won't even come close to their damage output if you go stanceless. Crushing ruin also give jat kittag massive maneuverability and a crazy amount of sweeping and a ridiculous knockdown range on the last hit, same with brutal tide for obex. Some of the stances might seem superfluous, but on the other side there are plenty that improve the weapon a fuckton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechNexus Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 I think melee 2.0 is one of the best things to happen to Warframe. Why? Because it's fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warpath514 Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 (edited) Well i really like melee 2.0 since i slice through large groups of lv 20-30 infested like they are nothing with my dual ethers(i do dark sector survival regularly now for practice). I do think the stance mods need alot more imaginative combos rather then all E. Plus some of the animations are a bit fun to watch. Edited July 13, 2014 by warpath514 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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