PsychedelicSnake Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 (edited) 1) The new cache optimizer is in update 14.5 which you don't have yet. 2) Load times don't have any impact on your frame rate, your network lag, in-game bugs, or premature balding. Damnit, Glen. I spent a good three minutes looking through Google for premature balding possibly affecting my PC before I realized. Edited August 28, 2014 by PsychedelicSnake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalenath Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 1) The new cache optimizer is in update 14.5 which you don't have yet. 2) Load times don't have any impact on your frame rate, your network lag, in-game bugs, or premature balding. But... but... but.. You are [DE]Glen! You have ALL the answers! QUICK! Life, the Universe and Everything! What is the QUESTION? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocorro Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 1) The new cache optimizer is in update 14.5 which you don't have yet. 2) Load times don't have any impact on your frame rate, your network lag, in-game bugs, or premature balding. So it is just my bad luck then ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ogractor Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 1) The new cache optimizer is in update 14.5 which you don't have yet. 2) Load times don't have any impact on your frame rate, your network lag, in-game bugs, or premature balding. Long loading times can cause gray hair though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenzinNinJa Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Long loading times can cause gray hair though. I've seen it cause self-induced balding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fubukin Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Friend of mine will be very happy about this. WF usually makes his laptop churn. I myself am running it off of a mid-tier SSD, so probably no real changes, but performance is always nice to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RageManT Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 If this helps out other Warframe players to play the game way better, you've just made all of the Warframe players experience 100x better Glen. Thanks for this :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkullWB Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 And why not put an option where the directx and Multi-Thread are for choose if i want that "new cache optimizer" or not? because i prefer the game load full at start in memory and no need to load it each time i enter in a match, all this "optimization" only affects the people like me with lots of RAM(12gb here) and 64bit systems!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FractalMind Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I recently got a SSD and will never look back. Load times are awesome, but I guess you already know that. Thanks for the hint about "optimize" vs "defrag" though, nice to know. Thanks for working on this feature. People have probably complained about it, people suffer from slow loading times and waiting for others to load, but when this is fixed, people will forget about it. None of the ongoing applaud from graphical or audio changes, none of the appreciation of a fluid UI, but on behalf of those who appreciate all the aspects of the game that are only noticed when they don't work, I applaud you. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andoryuu Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 (edited) So after the new update I've ran defrag (probably should have tried loading times before defrag first) and the loading times are now half, maybe third of what they were before. Combined with switching from DX9 to 10 which gave me 5 more fps and much nicer visuals and I'm amazed how well WF runs on my potato (now with GladOS preinstalled!). Awesome work, thanks. Edited August 28, 2014 by Andoryuu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tagon Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 And why not put an option where the directx and Multi-Thread are for choose if i want that "new cache optimizer" or not? It's much better not to have everything switchable by an option. This avoids setting hte option to wrong values. And setting this wrong would also affect _other_ players (who have to wait longer for you to join). Good caching automatically makes use of your resources - if you have plenty of RAM it will use more of it, but a good cache strategy will make better use of little RAM, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tagon Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 Side note: Just out of curiosity, I installed WF on a severely under-powered laptop (Acer AS1810 - ULV version) when I swapped the HDD for an SSD and installed everything anew anyway. Of course the performance is really bad (only 2GB RAM, no GFX accel, etc.), and I switched off almost everything in the game to not be in "slide show mode". But I was very impressed to learn that WF was actually _playable_ (OK, with a little teeth-grinding, and I kept it a solo mission to not slow down anyone else). Even low graphics look surprisingly good. For a game of WF's complexity, this is very unusual. Actually I wanted to wipe WF from the laptop (my real gaming rig is way better), but after your announcement I will wait until it's updated to 14.5 and tested before I do that. I should definitely notice any differences in caching strategy. :-) Please keep up the good work - all of you. Many thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanuke Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 I used to enjoy good loading times on my laptop before this update. Asus G73 with GTX460M, 8GBram and a 7200rpm 500GB HDD on 64bit Windows 7. I haven't tested 14.5 on it (out today) but I suppose it will only improve the experience. Now what I'm waiting for is those fixes for PS4 you are talking about, as that console with it's default 5400rpm dinosaur of an HDD does really need as many boosts to it's loading times as you can push on it, yet no matter what it will still be much slower than most PCs unfortunately, which puts a heavy hinder on any hopes of merging both communities one day. BUT, every bit helps. My few tips for the able, get an HDD faster than 5400rpm. Anything 7200 rpm and over will load your game quite fast. Warframe loads on my computers much faster than any other MMO I have played. Even the ones with outdated "cute" visuals. SSD is the fastest, but any decent 7200rpm disk will be enough. I wouldn't recommend hybrid drives unless the playable part of Warframe can fit the small SSD section of the disk. Their mechanical drive sections use 5400 rpm disks which will actually slow down your overall experience if anything commonly used is forced to load from there. Adventurous PS4 players can also upgrade their HDDs (It's possible, there's even an official Sony page detailing how to replace your PS4 HDD) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mak_Gohae Posted August 28, 2014 Share Posted August 28, 2014 (edited) You might want to add some warning about disk space during the defrag. This thing eats up some space while it's going on and if some one doesnt have enough space doesn't this end up not being completed? Edited August 29, 2014 by Mak_Gohae Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powerbass4 Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 some impressive numbers; before defrag: ~ 9 GiB after defrag: ~ 6 GiB So "33%" or "3GiB" less used space on my SSD.....where every GiB is rare. Thanks ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mak_Gohae Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 some impressive numbers; before defrag: ~ 9 GiB after defrag: ~ 6 GiB So "33%" or "3GiB" less used space on my SSD.....where every GiB is rare. Thanks ! After it was completed? Cause during it i think i did go down 3 but after it was all done i gained 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aoguro Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 i use nvidias optimisation option from the nvidia-geforce expirience panel, does it work real or not ? who use it and what youre expiriences on a laptop with ?after getting answered this i will share a scary ongoing expirience with the warframe network since i started to playi hope you can help me with that, glen =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawnFalcon Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 (edited) This seems to have removed the 3-4 second hitch I got in the initial mission loading screen. (I use a 5400RPM hard disk on a desktop PC for storing Warframe, at the moment) Edited August 29, 2014 by DawnFalcon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billthebetta Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Yeah, this has seemed to help by a fair amount. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taiiat Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 i use nvidias optimisation option from the nvidia-geforce expirience panel, does it work real or not ? the GeForce Experience application 'optimization' only sets video settings in your games for you. it doesn't do anything that you can't already do. in other words, it's pretty much pointless for all but the most non tech savvy people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smejky Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Oh my .... this witchcraft really worked, WF loads up as fast as never ever before, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SantaFrost Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 DE_glen these optimisations you did for update14.5 it well made the entire game smoother as well as the frame rate being very well constant. it now stays at a constant 40fps, where before it used to be around 30fps and somtimes lowers to 20fps. i have to say you did magnificant with these optimisations. thank you Glen p.s yes im using a laptop with a hdd, a toshiba satillite p750 to be exact ./) or brohoof to those that didnt know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
http404error Posted August 29, 2014 Share Posted August 29, 2014 Thought I'd give this a spin with my sizable but low-tech laptop hdd. Oh, boy, load times went down from 10-15s to ~3s on the initial Liset load. It's harder to tell the difference for missions, since I usually don't pay attention while they're loading. You should make the optimization trigger automatically on a future patch so every user can enjoy this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Glen Posted August 30, 2014 Author Share Posted August 30, 2014 Wow, I'm really glad to hear that it made such an improvement for you guys -- there's actually more I can probably squeeze out of the system so maybe next time I have a break I'll take another run at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
http404error Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 Massive improvements in level loading. I never have to wait more than a couple seconds on any loading screen. You're amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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