Thural Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 So, people keep complaining about Excal p being founder exclusive, and I thought, excalibur is the original Warframe, why not make him special. Just like how the nikana is symbolic of the whole ninja-esque theme, Excal is THE warframe, and he deserves to be built upon by everyone, and not just those who were here first. He could have the same stats as excal, or be slightly better, like excal prime. The reason why is everyone tends to look down on excalibur players, since excal is the go to beginner frame, making people think that that player is inexperienced. This would solve this problem without getting the founders' panties in a knot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surtur Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 All or nothing seems to be general consensus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vargras Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 This would solve this problem without getting the founders' panties in a knot. Nothing is ever solved so easily, and you're naive for thinking so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaftMeat Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 One of these again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genoscythe Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 (edited) Love this community: "When we cant have it nobody should have an advantage with it!" Its not like we paid our asses off in the early phase of this game and are one of the reasons you can enjoy it right now. Yes we got plat, yes we got prayms, was a nice investment for DE. But please stop being butthurt if some exclusive stuff is better than what you have. I bet the community would burn in rage if excal prime had all stats by 20% increased. Just because of jealousy. Because thats humanity. Now im sad. Edited November 30, 2014 by Genoscythe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaugahn Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 This wouldn't solve any problems, it would just create more. Now stop suggesting this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ithloniel Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 (edited) or be slightly better, like excal prime. Excal and Excal Prime have the exact same stats. There is nothing better about him. Devs said they will never bring Excal Prime back, but knowing how Warframe rolls, who knows what might get released down the line... if the problem is, you want your excal to look such a way that he is clearly not a noob, there are already options. Immortal Skin drops from certain caches, alt helmets are available, and the exclusive Proto-Armor skin makes a pretty clear statement. Future skins might even be rewarded based on late-game play... like... just a guess here... Syndicates. Considering the future possibilities of cosmetic changes, Excal Prime, or Dragoncalibur, would both be largely unnecessary. Excal Prime ends up being just a pretty cosmetic with 6000 extra mastery exp. Edited November 30, 2014 by Ithloniel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexlars Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 (edited) Love this community: "When we cant have it nobody should have an advantage with it!" Its not like we paid our asses off in the early phase of this game and are one of the reasons you can enjoy it right now. Yes we got plat, yes we got prayms, was a nice investment for DE. But please stop being butthurt if some exclusive stuff is better than what you have. I bet the community would burn in rage if excal prime had all stats by 20% increased. Just because of jealousy. Because thats humanity. Now im sad. Except it's not better. It's just shinier. Edited November 30, 2014 by Rexlars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genoscythe Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 (edited) Except it's not better. It's just shinier. Even that is already too much, saw at least 50 threads about making founder gear availible in my time here. I mean prime frames should be way better than the originals, theyre frickin orokin tech, which is supposed to be god-tier. The rest is just copies, look at the normal weapons vs prime weapons. But DE already only buffed NEW prime frames a bitty because community would get butthurt again. Edited November 30, 2014 by Genoscythe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RejectionOfFate Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Be respectful. I actually would like a dragon version of any warframe. Would make things more interesting. I thought we hated it when things just got more interesting.. No Lotus, I don't want to rescue an additional 3 people.... Not again... dark times those were.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Someguy316 Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 I'd like an upgraded version of Excalibur, maybe many frames which are now weaker and need a boost. The founders can get something like an alternate skin or something to make it look like a Prime version. I honestly prefer the look of the Proto Excalibur skin way over the Prime version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexlars Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 I mean prime frames should be way better than the originals, theyre frickin orokin tech, which is supposed to be god-tier. The rest is just copies, look at the normal weapons vs prime weapons. But DE already only buffed NEW prime frames a bitty because community would get butthurt again. Well that's a different conversation entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genoscythe Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Well that's a different conversation entirely. True. Just my two cents about DE logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anatolius Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Or just make a dragon frame It's not gonna happen You are just adding content you aren't replacing it. Also excalibur got the proto skin: something no frame has up to this point. He is already pretty special I love dragons but I don't see why it would happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexlars Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 I love dragons but I don't see why it would happen. LOL. I'm pretty sure he didn't mean "dragon" as in an Excal that looks like a dragon. More along the lines of a Dragon variant—like the Dragon Nikana, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coatduck Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 But please stop being butthurt if some exclusive stuff is better than what you have. Excalibur Prime? You mean that one frame that has like, an extra polarity you have to forma out and gets a bit of energy for the team when he walks by a void box? Super OP. Doesn't even matter that he only has one ability that is worth using at high teir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anatolius Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 LOL. I'm pretty sure he didn't mean "dragon" as in an Excal that looks like a dragon. More along the lines of a Dragon variant—like the Dragon Nikana, for example. Thanks for clearing that up even though I never did see the difference between the 2 nikana Regardless Still kinda pointless to do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsukinoki Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 This wont solve any issues and will just create more.The people who want excal prime wont be happy with this because they still wont have excal prime.Meanwhile DE would have gone through a loophole and stands to lose a lot of trust from all players, founder and non founders alike.It would be like them saying "You know that shiny misa prime that we said would only ever be in the prime access bundles? Well we're realing the Dragon Misa Syandana. Completely different, see? Differnet colours and everything!"DE shouldn't exploit a loophole because someone is entitled enough to think that they deserve a shot at everything when they haven't been here from the beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasumi- Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 I thought we hated it when things just got more interesting.. No Lotus, I don't want to rescue an additional 3 people.... Not again... dark times those were.. I can feel the screams of the angry Tenno that such a scenario would cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RejectionOfFate Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 I can feel the screams of the angry Tenno that such a scenario would cause. It happened all the time.. And then.. Oh by the Lotus, after you managed to free all four of the knuckleheaded Rescue targets... and escort them halfway to the extraction.. "Change of Plans. Exterminate all life." ..... D; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achromos Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 (edited) Dragon Excal... More like Wraith Excal. Or something. Edited November 30, 2014 by Sibarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azawarau Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Love this community: "When we cant have it nobody should have an advantage with it!" Its not like we paid our asses off in the early phase of this game and are one of the reasons you can enjoy it right now. Yes we got plat, yes we got prayms, was a nice investment for DE. But please stop being butthurt if some exclusive stuff is better than what you have. I bet the community would burn in rage if excal prime had all stats by 20% increased. Just because of jealousy. Because thats humanity. Now im sad. No You didnt do anything that saved the game Youre not a hero and not entitled to anything except excali prime skana prime and lato prime If you hadnt paid a dime the game would still be here Youre not the only one who spent money on the game back then and not the only ones since Get off that high horse As for a new excali Despite what people say it will get alot of the pressure off of this situation When a new excali that isnt exclusive is released youll see players go from saying we should get a new excali to saying we have one now and telling others that thats what we got isntead Its that easy to stop this all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkerTheSpjot Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 (edited) Excal Prime doesn't have better stats, only a slightly faster shield recharge rate. Excal is still useful even on high end missions, especially now that he got a buff. Also if you look at an Excal in immortal skin/proto skin, carrying a Dragon Nikana and Soma, clearing out level 30+ Corrupted Heavy gunners with a hit of the 4th button, and you go on to say he/she 's inexperienced, then you sir have a problem Edited November 30, 2014 by The_Vile_Blade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genoscythe Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Excalibur Prime? You mean that one frame that has like, an extra polarity you have to forma out and gets a bit of energy for the team when he walks by a void box? Super OP. Doesn't even matter that he only has one ability that is worth using at high teir. Skana prime better than normal, same for lato prime, I was referring to the whole founders set. They dont even have to be better, just exclusive. Excal prime could use some buffs if you ask me. But I mean look at brakk, can you imagine the S#&$STORM DE would have to live through if they would have left it gravidus-dilemma-only? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azawarau Posted November 30, 2014 Share Posted November 30, 2014 Skana prime better than normal, same for lato prime, I was referring to the whole founders set. They dont even have to be better, just exclusive. Excal prime could use some buffs if you ask me. But I mean look at brakk, can you imagine the S#&$STORM DE would have to live through if they would have left it gravidus-dilemma-only? Even as a non founder i feel like excali prime needs a buff Itll likely start storm but its gotta happen Hes falling behind the other primes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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