Seraphyx Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Nothing needs to be done about ICE. Everyone helped them win and maintain the rail. Stop supporting these clans. If they own the rail they can and should be able to do whatever they want with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Himari- Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Merged similar threads. Let's keep things civil here, Tenno. I can understand the frustration but let's tread carefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kestral9999 Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) Well I haven't even seen the movie (I attribute that to my lack of a social life Girlfriend) but between the topic of this thread being Ice and your statement it seemed like it fit. Ya know, I honestly never even put those two together, that actually makes more sense now :P PS, my daughter subjects me to that movie almost every day when I get home. I have to wait for it to finish before I can even change the channel or she AND the missus get upset with me. Not so fun. Edited December 9, 2014 by Kestral9999 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Implodingbanana Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 im not fond of these giant alliances because there always seems to be something fishy going on with some of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d1sc1p1e Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 (edited) Edit: remember when DE said in one of their Friday Dev streams. They said even a small clan can control a solar rail. I belive it was Sheldon. even a Ghost Clan can take a Rail. if they have the rail built they can deploy(if they don't get blocked), and the integrity of the rail is based on the number of 'matches' won/lost. so if one squad from one Ghost Clan fights constantly and wins, then it's possible that technically those 4 people can take an entire rail. of course the percentage gained from a win is so ludicrously low it's probably not physically possible, but you get the point. Edited December 9, 2014 by d1sc1p1e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonkingdx Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 IMHO the tax system should be removed and replaced with a system that gives the controlling alliance an extra bonus on top of the normal bonus. That way at least no one can really complain about not wanting to play the nodes because they dont want to sacrifice what they gain. As well as it makes better nodes for farming exp/resources a daily struggle >.> and so they can go back to complaining about how xx controls x node. I gave up on the system shortly after it came out. Was utterly useless compared to void/known nodes/bosses for rare mats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xeo_Nespydonum Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 No way to put it back; the major rail alliances have discovered an exploit to make their dominance over rails indefinite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyse Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 As a personal rule, any DS above 29% tax rate and I just don't go there. It's not worth it. Sech may be nice for leveling and the money is handy for short missions, but I can level just as well in the void and get pleeeenty more cash. They're only hurting themselves by scaring people off with insane tax rates.Props to them for getting the rail and keeping it, but I'll celebrate in another mission. :)Moving on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord-Taco-the-Great Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 What they said added insult to injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorrogue Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Well, they changed it to a message "Apologising" www.tinyurl.com/ICEALLIANCEPSA, it's a youtube video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kubbi Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I don't mind a bit taxes because I know keeping it is costly. But anything over 30% is too much imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakshal Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 What they said added insult to injury. That actually made me giggle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordOfScrugging Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 What they said added insult to injury. is their slogan "Ice Ice Baby" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord-Taco-the-Great Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 Well, they changed it to a message "Apologising" www.tinyurl.com/ICEALLIANCEPSA, it's a youtube video. And a parody at that. They basically just said "hah screw you i do what i want" The video: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraphyx Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 I'm disappointed it wasn't a link to a Rick Roll. Shame on them, missed opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord-Taco-the-Great Posted December 9, 2014 Share Posted December 9, 2014 'ICE ain't nice' should be their slogan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfhsanseiIII Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 I can't deny that it upsets me that a basic phrase in the English language now directly and immediately pertains to a rather lame Disney movie. In short? No. The only time I reference Frozen is when making fun of it lol. An adult showing his disdain for a Disney movie, sheesh. I won't let you anywhere near my two year old. He'd flail the skin from your back for statements like that. Seriously though I'd stay a at from these technological whirlimajiggies they get too tough for curmudgeons like you pretty soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vargras Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 That actually made me giggle. Same. Thought it was funny. I remember when people used to talk garbage about Eclipse, and how anything above 10% taxation was horrific and an injustice against the community (or something just as contrived and silly). Wonder how many folks miss that right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixty5 Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 That is why I play Cerberus and Draco. More spawns, more exp, more drops. And T4 Keys for more money. Dark sectors are for greedy clans to play with. I want no part in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not_Oliver Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 To the people that say "fight them" I joina match finally before seeing my screen go black and a host migration. Apparently I lost... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATEdPondera Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 because these alliance have amassed so much credits that they can put 1mill on it and people will fight for it. Then we cut down any honorless mercenary scum that fight for ICE and give them a cheap funeral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pizzarugi Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 I barely engage in dark sectors if at all since most rails put ridiculous tax rates on them. However, if DE were to allow a PvE option for conflicts, I might contribute more to fighting for the side that has better taxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)iMsRaider Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 (edited) This is why I left Dust 514 and Eve Online. In Eve sitting 100km out from a gate and just use BS class torpedoes that 1-shot ships just passing the system. And and in Dust locking down worlds to prevent them from being taken, General Tso's and Imperfects cracked CCPs model and they just simply didn't care. Planetary warfare? Never happened, only ever to keep worlds secured from leaving sovereignty. The whole thing with the loss of the Ishikune guarding Calafari Prime? Was all staged, entire fleets were ready to jump in but CCP locked the gates down. Sure there are some epic battles like the one from last year that made the news, yet that is few and far between. There are so many references for when players have that much power games fail, which is why Eve has what 300,000 active players? Ultima Online was a cesspool as well. DE has a lot of work to do before that section ruins gameplay. Like in Eve and Dust those clans and alliances have access to all the best gear without trying and no new challenger can ever come in. Those already in power doesn't want to upset their finally maintained balance. They will shout the loudest so that the company never makes changes, like CCP. Edited December 10, 2014 by (XB1)l Forthencho l Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domesticon Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 Same. Thought it was funny. I remember when people used to talk garbage about Eclipse, and how anything above 10% taxation was horrific and an injustice against the community (or something just as contrived and silly). Wonder how many folks miss that right now? They were going that way anyhow, no matter who it was doing it, this was the unfortunately inevitable end of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ensignvidiot Posted December 10, 2014 Share Posted December 10, 2014 hey guys, look! They are sorry! its cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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