Ingway Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 (edited) Letting nuffilers aside, corpus seems to be real easy to take care off, while gineer has a giant variety of units, seekers have the same damage of a freaking sniper for example but can hit you super easy up close, 600 shields destroyed in 1 shot that is most of the time undodgeble due to enemy aim still being god like, bombards with their homing missiles is pretty infamous alredy and sudden spam of 3 rockets in second at will, napalms and their ridiculous blast range which will hit you even if you were like 10m away from the blast, with gigantic dot damage, and all units working on lead based weaponry, which makes usual corpus weaponry easier to dodge, and hit scan detection for grineer weapons working in their favor most of the time since the bullets travel real fast. Biggest offender in my opnion tough are the ones on archwing missions, they have a 2 units that spam missiles non stop and they deal gigantic damage to the archwing, one of then has a shield so they take even longer to kill, and they are honestly the only units in archwing which can kill you, because they have no cooldown or limit to their rocket spam, and worse of all, they freaking home into you. I know it sounds like whining, but i kinda want to know why grineer seems to have all the annoying units, if you think about lore wise, they are a war faction, so it kinda makes sense, but this is a game, and balance kinda needs to be a thing, so having corpus have 1 really annoying unit, kinda dosn't compensate that fact in my opnion. What are your toughts on this? I'm not sure if i'm the only one who feels this way. Edited March 17, 2015 by Ingway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latiac Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Worst part about Bombards is the fact that they knock you down, and as you are getting back up you just get hit by another rocket that continues to knock you down... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaRDeMoN787 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Infested can be annoying. I'll never forget being dragged by an ancient, shot by an infested moa and re-dragged by another ancient while being pimp smacked by every other infested along the drag. -_- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitsowkay Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 We already got those bombards that have missile machinegun, that shoots while stunned, knockeddown and dead. Dont give DE any more wrong ideas pls =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntpuffer Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Worst part about Bombards is the fact that they knock you down, and as you are getting back up you just get hit by another rocket that continues to knock you down... Indeed, and we even have very usefull mods to work against this such as handspring. But no one simply willing to leave out a mod for a mod like handspring cause it'll nerf our strength to the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandsomeSorcerer Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 (edited) Lets not forget the annoying rollers, Commando, Hellions on some maps, Instakill Ballista, Slash Doom Grunts and Lancers and of course those @(*()$ dudes that disarm you while you are fighting off that bombard. Nullifiers are paltry compared to Mutalist Moa goo doom of the infested and bombard/balista/gunner killer grineer combos. But dont underestimate the power of annoyance when 5 or 6 nullifiers spawn or better yet, 5 of them with 3 bombards in void missions. Edited March 17, 2015 by HandsomeSorcerer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsahiOka Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 They knock you down, and as you are getting back up you just get hit by another rocket that continues to knock you down... Trinity says: who is getting the know down now ah? XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdunSaveMe Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 (edited) Infested have the annoying ones. Most of them do almost nothing, but someone thought it'd be cool to give two units all the fun. So you have heavy melee, damage resists/cc resist buffs (that apparently stack, I'm not sure) and a long range, fast travelling grapple hook on one unit, and a large aoe, fast travelling gooshot that slows movement speed along with cast speed, reload speed, melee speed and fire rate (for some reason) on another. Don't forget the swarm moas that do nothing to players except annoy them. Edited March 17, 2015 by AdunSaveMe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R34LM Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 (edited) The Grineer also get the bulk of the spawning bugs But yea, Grineer are just too cheap. Bombards are bad when they have 4 of them next to each other, Helions are stupidly cheap with jetpacks and missle volleys, Seekers are just bugged to s*** but ignored (pisses me off so much), they all have hit scan weapons and, finally, slash procs. Worst of the worst in that faction. Edited March 17, 2015 by R34LM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingway Posted March 17, 2015 Author Share Posted March 17, 2015 (edited) Infested have the annoying ones. Most of them do almost nothing, but someone thought it'd be cool to give two units all the fun. So you have heavy melee, damage resists/cc resist buffs (that apparently stack, I'm not sure) and a long range, fast travelling grapple hook on one unit, and a large aoe, fast travelling gooshot that slows movement speed along with cast speed, reload speed, melee speed and fire rate (for some reason) on another. Don't forget the swarm moas that do nothing to players except annoy them. Yes, but my problem is here, is not to complain about specific units, it's to complain about how grineer have all the good units while everyone else is way easier to deal with in comparison. We already got those bombards that have missile machinegun, that shoots while stunned, knockeddown and dead. Dont give DE any more wrong ideas pls =) Not really giving then ideas for more annoying units,i'm asking then to look into the matter of balance for factions. Edited March 17, 2015 by Ingway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoggDog117 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 One word: Nullifiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horonelius Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Infested has to be the most irritating to fight right now. I frequently find myself having to stop firing or meleeing just to find a spot that isn't covered in goo or BEES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaRDeMoN787 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Don't forget the swarm moas that do nothing to players except annoy them. Yes, because swating flies away in real life wasn't enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickelshark Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Surprised you forgot rollers. They can be a real pain too. Although I usually don't see to many anymore these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdunSaveMe Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Yes, but my problem is here, is not to complain about specific units, it's to complain about how grineer have all the good units while everyone else is way easier to deal with in comparison. But the grineer don't have all the good units, nor is everyone else easier to deal with by comparison. That was my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeMeritus Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Run some hives or higher level defense on Eris. Infested have some pretty darn annoying units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R34LM Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Infested has to be the most irritating to fight right now. I frequently find myself having to stop firing or meleeing just to find a spot that isn't covered in goo or BEES. Infested are annoying because they stop you from killing them quickly. Grineer are annyoing because they kill you too quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SquirmyBurrito Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 I find the infested far more irritating. Ancients pulling you to them so the disrupter can drain your energy. Infested moas stomping and knocking you down, shooting tar at you and slowing you down (so you get rekt by chargers), that moa that puts the swarm on you that is hell to get rid of because teammates love to wander around with theirs and constantly re-infest you, and that random electric crawler that you fail to notice has been electrocuting your ankles for five minutes... Compared to that: The Corpus has the stomping moas, the antimoas, mine osprey, and leech osprey. The Grineer have commanders, hellions, heavy ground pound, shield lancers, scorpions, bombards, and drahk masters. Rollers have been neutered for a while so they don't annoy me. The rest of the units are mostly dangerous, not annoying. Grineer are probably the most dangerous faction, but I think infested take first place in annoying units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)TheArrowOfGod Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 A corrupted bombard can one hit kill you in a t4 survival with enough time, mix that with the fact their shots are hard to see, fire so fast, and corner better than a sports car and you've got a losing situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingway Posted March 17, 2015 Author Share Posted March 17, 2015 Infested are annoying because they stop you from killing them quickly. Grineer are annyoing because they kill you too quickly. That's actually really spot on. Altough i can kill infested pretty easy with a miasma focused saryn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R34LM Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 That's actually really spot on. Altough i can kill infested pretty easy with a miasma focused saryn. There are of course exceptions. But yes, Grineer, overall, need a nerf, in my honest opinion. Compared to other factions, their hitscan and stunlocking is too much for their damage levels, and it is why I am not looking forward to raids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loswaith Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Personaly I find Grineer dangerous, not all that anoying. Sure some units need better balancing sweap (mainly bombards/napalms). While their scalling definatly needs to be looked at. Infested I find more anoying than dangerous. Their danger really only comes in becuse they take away control or energy constantly, and it's this removal of tools that makes them a threat. Sure you can get around these anoyances by using only melee combos, but thats not always the fun part of the game for all players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardcoreSalmon Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Grineer are annoying but infested beat them easily. Even if DE made platinum a reward I probably still wouldn't do ODS every again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rakosta_Kai Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 I'd have to give the trophy for largest number of annoying units to the Infested. They do too many different kinds of damage from too many different directions and at every range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lightsmith Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Nullifiers alone disprove this idea, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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