Sixty5 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 (edited) Approximately 27 hours ago whilst playing skyrim my PC began to repeatedly crash. I did a little bit of diagnostic work and tried some minor repairs, but had no real luck with fixing it. In fact all it could do was boot up and instantly crash to a black screen. Today after finishing work a bit early I grabbed my gear and set to work, a system restore, and a couple of refreshes later I nailed down the issue, the GPU drivers. For demonstration purposes, this is what happens when I log in now http://youtu.be/1V6mKpeByE0 As soon as it boots up, the thing crashes. It's getting to the point of me getting salty. So if you are buying/building a pc, try to avoid AMD. They have blind arthritic 80 year olds for drivers. If you want to read the steps I have taken etc read here Restarted pc Cleared CMOS and restarted Ran disc check Ran virus and malware scan Ran memory test Reseated memory Reseated GPU Reseated CPU fan Windows startup repair Reinstalled drivers in safe mode Checked event logs for issues leading up to crashes Disabled services involved in prior events Disabled dedicated graphics Attempted to reload dedicated graphics Ran system restore to a restore point from the week before Ran system refresh Ran a repair of windows installation Reinstalled chipset, graphics and CPU drivers Sacrificed dog to RNGesus Cried Repeated driver installs I'm going to give it another crack tomorrow, but I'm getting pretty close to saying 'screw it' and buying an Nvidia card for it. Rip my PC. Edited May 28, 2015 by Sixty5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheErebus. Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 RIP Sixty he games no more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_numbernin9 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 RIP, never forget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issun135 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 what card do you have currently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scherhardt Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 You're just in time for a 980 ti. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sixty5 Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share Posted May 28, 2015 You're just in time for a 980 ti. Brilliant. I'll sell my car, buy one for half as much and use the rest of the dosh to build a fancy new pc with TWO 980ti's in it. -I'm a a pleb- I can still enjoy 720p 30fps gameplay on my older laptop, so HA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheErebus. Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 I can still enjoy 720p 30fps gameplay on my older laptop, so HA Says the one who can't use his SHINY computor HA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixty5 Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share Posted May 28, 2015 Says the one who can't use his SHINY computor HA The shiny one works fine, its the matte black one that is buggered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheErebus. Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 The shiny one works fine, its the matte black one that is buggered. damnit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixty5 Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share Posted May 28, 2015 damnit[ ]not rekt[x]rekt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Grzegorz Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 I keked so hard 11/9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Letter13 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 AMD (formerly ATI) Catalyst drivers have always been about as reliable as a potato. As a computer engineer, me and and some of my colleagues always say that AMD is the "Cheap Beta" and Nvidia is the "Expensive Final Product". Although AMD tend to push the bleeding edge when it comes to tech, their hardware (and drivers) are not wholly reliable, and have a thermal emission per square inch approaching that of a nuclear reactor. Meanwhile Nvidia is more expensive, but tends to be a lot more reliable and not as much of a power hog and heat generator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kubbi Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Rip in peace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mcl_Blue Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Yeeess.... convert..... come to the Nvidia side! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-HAKUNA-YOUR-TATAS- Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 RIP in Peace. if it's any consolation my work laptop fully functional and awesome from 2007 just died. XD Didn't lose any data, but it was a very much loved Thinkpad T61p with a 1900 x 1200 15" screen. The thing still ran today's software, just not any new games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MostlyHarmless2 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 AMD (formerly ATI) Catalyst drivers have always been about as reliable as a potato. As a computer engineer, me and and some of my colleagues always say that AMD is the "Cheap Beta" and Nvidia is the "Expensive Final Product". Although AMD tend to push the bleeding edge when it comes to tech, their hardware (and drivers) are not wholly reliable, and have a thermal emission per square inch approaching that of a nuclear reactor. Meanwhile Nvidia is more expensive, but tends to be a lot more reliable and not as much of a power hog and heat generator. Nvidia Master Race Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixty5 Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share Posted May 28, 2015 AMD (formerly ATI) Catalyst drivers have always been about as reliable as a potato. As a computer engineer, me and and some of my colleagues always say that AMD is the "Cheap Beta" and Nvidia is the "Expensive Final Product". Although AMD tend to push the bleeding edge when it comes to tech, their hardware (and drivers) are not wholly reliable, and have a thermal emission per square inch approaching that of a nuclear reactor. Meanwhile Nvidia is more expensive, but tends to be a lot more reliable and not as much of a power hog and heat generator. I've Personally always preferred Nvidia, given that their chipsets tend to support the games that I like to a greater extent than AMD ones. Likewise AMD processors tend to be meh in my opinion. Sure they have more cores and higher clocks than equally priced Intel ones, yet in benchmarks Intel does just as well as them, with fewer driver issues. The reason I currently have an AMD card in my computer is because that's what was there already, and I didn't feel like spending 600 bucks and waiting 3 weeks to get an Nvidia chip from eBay. Plus given that fixing stuff like this is my job I figured it wouldn't be an issue, and it really wasn't up until now. I might try and run the whole thing off of the intergrated Intel chip for the time being, though I'd have to work out some way of preventing the other one from booting up at all. I guess I'll just start looking at a full new build. Hopefully I can get a good deal on parts through work (Dat cost price tho) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDrunkenGungan Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Thanks for the heads-up on AMD. I currently have an R9-270x, maybe I'll upgrade to a 970 when the price drops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JefPlays Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Meanwhile here I am with a crappy integrated graphics laptop... runs Warframe surprisingly well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notlamprey Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Thanks for the heads-up on AMD. I currently have an R9-270x, maybe I'll upgrade to a 970 when the price drops. I'd recommend you not get a 970. Try and get a 980 instead, if there's any way you can afford the extra cost. The 970 is advertised as having 4Gb of VRAM, but only 3.5Gb of that is useful. The other 500Mb is considerably slower, which means big slowdowns whenever that piece of RAM is called on. The technical term is "split memory design," but you will notice when the card tries to use that slower chunk of VRAM. Even worse, a lot of people bought two for SLI and multi-monitor / large-monitor / 4k setups. At resolutions larger than 1080p you can probably expect to have slowdowns in unexpected places. I made the mistake of getting one before doing the research, and it feels very much like a budget version of the "proper" 980. I'm going to have to make another major GPU upgrade to get ready for Star Citizen, which is an upsetting prospect. TL;DR - Nvidia lied about the card's technical specs, were hit with a class action lawsuit and offered partial refunds to people who bought GTX 970s. I regret getting one, but not enough to spend a couple hundred extra on a 980. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout751 Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 AMD (formerly ATI) Catalyst drivers have always been about as reliable as a potato. Potatoes are delicious and are reliably cook-able. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboDoge Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Why do we even try to help this AMD heretic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ognj Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 From my point I had both Nvidia and ATI ( back when ATI was in the business ).It began with a humble Geforce 4 mx i believe and it ran great, a bit outdated even in the time i got it, but it ran perfectly with no bsod's or any driver issues. Then I got Asus's ATI radeon 2000 something in between ( i forgot the model ) it had problems with drivers constantly and often in certain games the PC freeze itself and you need to restart it ( Heroes of might and magic 5 specifically ).Then I got a MSI's Nvidia Geforce 7000-or 8000 gt series can't remember the model name. It ran pretty amazing, no driver issues no bsod's and it ran some games pretty good even below recommended specs. Sadly I fried it during long period of being under load and I was afk for a bit so I got a not-so pleasant surprise.After all that mess I got a Asus's radeon HD 2000-3000 series. And boy it was a jumbled mess of a drivers, a lot of BSOD's display shutting down and not responding until restarts and whatnot, also it seems that it under performed compared to my Gefoce 7000-8000 GPU a bit.After all that nonsense, I gathered some money, bought a brand spankin' new PC with Asus's Nvidia GTX780 in it and it works flawlessly, no driver issues, no BSOD's no freezes, or any other BS.I am not saying go and buy the most expensive GPU, but if you had a lot of driver issues and that kind of stuff, just switch to green team once. Sure AMD is a cheaper gamer GPU and best bang for the buck, but drivers are awful and most of the times it makes experience much more frustrating. I would rather pay a bit extra to have everything working as intended and never to to have any issues with it. + AMD cards are much more of a power hogs, louder and hotter due to demanding more power. Hopefully with the new HBM stackable VRAM they might do something, or they will go bankrupt and probably bought out by another company ( and this happened to ATI already ).They seem to repeat history again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverlordMcGeek Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 RIP AMD. This thread has killed you. Thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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